There is no NIL , early entrance into the NBA draft and the transfer portal what Pitt backcourt would look like if we had Lowe and Carrington for three or four years.
Its easy if you try.
Its easy if you try.
Imagine !
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At this point, the best we can hope for is 2 years of them together. I know SMF has been mocked for this, but Lowe and Carrington are easily the top 2 NIL priorities of any athletes at Pitt. And it’s probably not even close with whoever the top FB player is (Hammond, Bartholomew, Holstein?)
The football team doesn't have 1 player or prospective player that is on a comparative level in talent as either Carrington or Lowe, especially Lowe. That NIL money must be used to keep them at least for another year, and Lowe is the priority. Forget the football. The talent isn't there to justify it.
Yeah it would be nice. I also like to imagine what if Scottie Reynolds didn't hit that bucket, or Nasir Robinson didn't commit that foul. Or if the Golden Panthers continued to exist, if Bozik didn't emphasize academics so much, if Foge wasn't hired etc. etc. Unfortunately, that's not reality.
I’m not sure if it’s accurate to say that NIL has been a bad thing for Pitt basketball. Especially if we finish strong down the stretch (whether it results in an at-large bid or not), I think we’ll be able to muster the resources necessary to retain the overwhelming majority of the roster.
If Bub’s getting mocked in the first round and has a good spot lined up? Not a ton you can do about that. But otherwise? I really think we’ll be okay with retention.
Its so tough, if bub goes this year despite having a lot to improve he still may go mid to late first round, but if he comes back next year and improves on his weaknesses he still may go mid to late first round due to it being a much stronger class
Yeah, it’s not really an equitable comparison. 2 guys like Lowe and Carrington have a huge impact on the BB team.
In FB, Hammond and Bartholomew are good but not even in the same zip code as far as their impact on a FB team relative to key players in a BB team.
QB is about the only position on the FB team that can come close to a similar impact to BB. But as of now, we don’t know if Holstein is a difference maker.
I’ve previously written that if Bub leaves for NbA then most likely Pitt would have a good season. This is the type of team that can make sweet 16 due to guards and then now out due to center. Would be bittersweet, but I still feel if he is at that level, then we should finish strong and happy as a fan base with tourney.
With that said, my order for returns
Bub/Lowe
Kante
Ish
After that I am fine JC using portal to replace the rest, though wouldn’t mind Jeffress returning in similar role.
With that said, my order for returns
Bub/Lowe
Kante
Ish
After that I am fine JC using portal to replace the rest, though wouldn’t mind Jeffress returning in similar role.
Spending a whole bunch of NIL to retain a tight end and a running back is a little too weird of a resource allocation for my preference. They’re nice players, but how many wins above replacement is a tight end and a running back going to give you for the resources expended?
Bub, Lowe and Ish are all integral parts of this team, definitely would like to see all 3 back.
At center, it’s a given we have zero offensive presence there. I never thought that was a real big detriment, figured we could get sufficient offensive production from the other 4 spots. So I thought good post defense and rebounding was all we needed from the 5 spot and Federico was more than adequate there coupled with a little support from GDG.
But after the last 3 games, seeing how effective a Reid Burns and even the ND bigs were against us, it would be nice to have even the slightest offensive capability out of our 5’s so we wouldn’t have to rely so much on being on with our mid-range jump shots and/or 3’s every game.
So what are Kante’s capabilities? Does he have any back to the basket or other offensive game? That would be refreshing after a couple years of zero offensive capabilities from our 5’s other than some pick n roll dunks and put backs.
You want to forget about the team that pays most of the bills. That wouldn't be smart, and I'm sure the folks running things aren't this shortsighted.
The frosh guards will be offered whatever can be allocated for them, and I hope it's enough to keep them.
There's zero chance they forget about football. None.
Other than ‘forget the football’ the rest of his post is pretty much spot on. As in there isn’t anyone on the football team with impact as large as what Lowe and Carrington mean to the BB team.
No way to avoid it in this day and age, FB requires NIL but I’ll agree with his sentiment that NIL for Lowe and Carrington are NIL $$ better spent than anyone currently on the FB team.
He makes the same stupid posts all the time, on this board and the football board. There's no forgetting about football, or basketball.
The basketball team will be allocated a share of NIL and they can do what they want with it. I'm sure BB benefits from all the FB fans general Alliance 412 donations, just as the athletic department does from FB seat and parking donations.
Anyone is welcome to stroke a big check to Alliance 412 and direct it solely to BB.
I realize that college football and Pitt football is more popular but first and foremost, Alliance 412 has to fund the basketball team. I'm not asking to pay Top 10 salaries but they need to pay them at least a competitive NCAAT-type salary. When that's done, you can pay whatever's left to Gavin Bartholomew or Donovan McMillon so we can go 6-6 and get to the Fenway Bowl vs UAB.
One factor is that Lowe has stated that he was playing injured early in the year. But his development has been rapid. I give credit to Capel for that. Lowe also has nerves of steel as he never seems afraid of taking the big shot or free throws.
Im not sure people really understand just how good Cummings is on offense. He is wired to score and has been on absolute fire shooting the ball this year. Immediate impact player and potential starter next year.
I have zero idea how he is this embarrassingly underrated as he is. My only thought is, because he missed the 4th session of the EYBL and the peach jam, it cost him a huge national ranking bump. Regardless, the people that rank players are going to be kicking themselves the same way they kicked themselves with regards to the Lowe and Carrington national rankings.
This is a home run player we have coming in next year.
These are recent games by Cummings. Any time a player is making 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 three pointers in a single game, it should be getting a lot more notice.
I'm not trying to be a homer but I dont understand how he isnt a Top 50 or even a Top 30 recruit. As a HS player, he has no weaknesses. Great handle, good (maybe not great but how many HS kids are) shooter, and super athletic to the point where he's throwing down crazy dunks. This is why I am predicting he plays in the NBA. Will need to transition to PG for that but I think he can do it. That said, I'd expect Lowe/Carrington contributions from him. I dont think he's going to come in and average like 17. Probably 10 or so
He might have more weaknesses in his game, but playing against WPIAL competition is will mask pretty much all of those. See Ethan Morton.
Only reason I didn’t mention him is it just figures he’s got to be the replacement for Hinson. So that doesn’t change to fact that you still need to keep Lowe, Bub and Ish.
Ethan Morton averaged like 5 points per game or something like that in the EYBL and I watched plenty of NY rens games because he played on the same team as RJ Davis. And the same goes for Will Jeffress who never developed on offense and never scored well in the EYBL either, granted, Jeffress skipped his senior EYBL season. This isn't even a comparison to someone like Cummings who averaged almost 20 points per game in the EYBL on strong shooting percentages. If you can't score in the EYBL, chances and odds greatly are, you aren't scoring much in college until you are a junior or senior and you still probably wont score well as an upperclassmen. The summer league numbers are important. I can't say that enough times.
The wpial numbers are meaningless unless you have a guy raining 3s all over the place.
