Initial Vegas line for Pitt - Virginia Tech is...
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maybe PITT found something in the second half against UVA; looked like a totally different team dialing up pressure and breaking up passes.
Vegas was way off that PSU-OSU Line, but have been pretty good at predicting Pitt Lines lately and does anyone doubt it is a tough close game either way?
I see a VT Team that has beaten UNC & Miami and lost to UTenn and Cuse? I see a Pitt Team that can score on anybody, but can't stop the scoring with close wins and losses of 7 or less points against 6 Teams ?
I don't make excuses for Pitt, I demand Pitt proves it can win against Preseason, Current, & Post Season Ranked Teams, and let that do Pitt talking, no other way?
I see a VT Team that has beaten UNC & Miami and lost to UTenn and Cuse? I see a Pitt Team that can score on anybody, but can't stop the scoring with close wins and losses of 7 or less points against 6 Teams ?
I don't make excuses for Pitt, I demand Pitt proves it can win against Preseason, Current, & Post Season Ranked Teams, and let that do Pitt talking, no other way?
I didn't realize there were so many games this Thursday night.
Go Pitt!
Go Pitt!
But we have a history of beating VT all the time, we've won 6 of the last 7 meetings, dating to 2001.
I said I did not like the matchup vs NC and OSU, we lost them both. I liked the matchup vs PSU and GT.
VT is definitely a good hybrid team, and their QB is having possibly the best year of any VTech QB in their history. They are also surprisingly healthy for any team, not alone one that played 2 games in 5 days, and this will be their 3rd in 12 days.
That being said, I like Pitt in this game. Not sure why, but I think our sweeps and misdirection will upset their defense, and if we can start running no huddle this game (which I think we will), Vtech seems to get worn down. On defense, we need to hold them to FGs, which their kicker hasnt had a great season. They will get their 400-450 yards, but I think our offense out scores them 38-33
VT is definitely a good hybrid team, and their QB is having possibly the best year of any VTech QB in their history. They are also surprisingly healthy for any team, not alone one that played 2 games in 5 days, and this will be their 3rd in 12 days.
That being said, I like Pitt in this game. Not sure why, but I think our sweeps and misdirection will upset their defense, and if we can start running no huddle this game (which I think we will), Vtech seems to get worn down. On defense, we need to hold them to FGs, which their kicker hasnt had a great season. They will get their 400-450 yards, but I think our offense out scores them 38-33
GOOOO PITT!!! I am praying for a victory on Thursday against the Chokies! I just checked the weather and it looks like it is going to be a mess up in the 'Burgh. 90% chance of rain with 20 mph winds. I actually think that might help you guys out. What do you think?
I think both teams are built to perform well in less than optimal conditions. VT and PITT both run and stop the run pretty well, and typical avoid turnovers. With the weather, field position and limiting turnovers/silly penalties will determine the winner of this game. My guess would be a 17-10 PITT win at this point.
vegas does not give two squats about respecting or not respecting Pitt. They set a line and adjust accordingly to the money coming in....You want to give Pitt respect?... put down a grand on them at +4.5. .
field will be fine. A couple showers during the day and I heard the Steelers bought one of those new tarp thingees for their field.
There is no shame in passing up a chance to bet on your favorite team.
Tech is good....Weather suspect.....Pitts defense played 2 good quarters against UVA but to dismiss the disastrous pass defense from other games is a fools game.
I bet every week. like every other jabroni out there.....I'm happy if I break even.
Too many unknowns here. I will watch as a fan...not as an investor .
Tech is good....Weather suspect.....Pitts defense played 2 good quarters against UVA but to dismiss the disastrous pass defense from other games is a fools game.
I bet every week. like every other jabroni out there.....I'm happy if I break even.
Too many unknowns here. I will watch as a fan...not as an investor .
Evans isn't remotely like Vick in terms of speed, arm strength etc. If I had to choose a guy to compare Evans to, it would be Bryan Randall. Pretty smart, mobile with decent speed and elusiveness as a runner. As a passer, he struggles with the long passes while he's pretty accurate on the short to medium routes.
Many VT fans felt before the season that if Evans could at least manage games and not turn the ball over, we'd have a decent shot of winning 8 games. So far he's exceeded our expectations completing 63% of his passes with 19 TD's to 2 INT's (one of which was on the WR). The big thing for Evans is taking care of the football. Sans the Liberty and Tennessee games where we turned it over 9 times, we've been pretty good since.
I think it's going to be a pretty good test for both teams. While our defense has done pretty well this year, we haven't faced a back the caliber of Conner. He's a great all-around back who can make cuts and has power. I would say our Dline (including our depth) has improved dramatically compared to the past four or five years. We were down two starters against Miami and plugged in RS Freshman and still held UM in check.
Offensively we aren't anything close to what we've been under Beamer.....from scheme to tempo to play calling. It's a complete change from the VT teams of the past. Whether we have success Thursday night remains to be seen.
Many VT fans felt before the season that if Evans could at least manage games and not turn the ball over, we'd have a decent shot of winning 8 games. So far he's exceeded our expectations completing 63% of his passes with 19 TD's to 2 INT's (one of which was on the WR). The big thing for Evans is taking care of the football. Sans the Liberty and Tennessee games where we turned it over 9 times, we've been pretty good since.
I think it's going to be a pretty good test for both teams. While our defense has done pretty well this year, we haven't faced a back the caliber of Conner. He's a great all-around back who can make cuts and has power. I would say our Dline (including our depth) has improved dramatically compared to the past four or five years. We were down two starters against Miami and plugged in RS Freshman and still held UM in check.
Offensively we aren't anything close to what we've been under Beamer.....from scheme to tempo to play calling. It's a complete change from the VT teams of the past. Whether we have success Thursday night remains to be seen.
We have not done a good job of stopping the run. Even against UVA we allowed 124 yards on 22 carries for 5.6ypc. Our sack numbers are covering for how poorly we are actually playing against the run.
25% chance at kickoff and spotty...solid playing conditions in an NFL stadium. ...
Well, like your optimism, but VT is very good against the run as well. I can see this being a really difficult game, especially if it is rainy and our jet sweeps cant be run as well. Plus we have a bye week, we could come out sleepy. I hope home field advantage is enough to pull it out.
I think we have. 2 runs went for 69 yards, including a 44 yard TD. That leaves 55 yards on the other 20 carries. Now, I know, I know, it is still a total of 124. But, I dont think it is as bad as you say (plus, you took out the 38 yards in sacks)
Forecast has changed. Rain will be done by mid-afternoon for the most part and the field will covered Wednesday night when the majority of the precipitation moves in. Haven't seen anything about wind either.
Agreed. You have to look at the entire picture as it pertains to rushing, sacks included. A couple of long runs inflated the ypc.
Of course I took out the sack yardage. It is idiotic to include sack yardage in rush defense. Especially when we are blitzing all the time and our entire defense is based around pressure. Even our sack numbers are somewhat disingenuous in a total picture when compared to 90% of other defenses.
A sack literally has nothing to do with stopping the run. College football is stuck way in the past on that one.
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