Is it really Hugley’s fault he has been so ineffective lately?
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He just wants the season to end so he can get the hell out of here. I'm serious.
I think when they force Hugley out and are anticipating an entry pass, when need to fake it and make 2 quick passes that end down low on the other side of the lane.
we should be trying to score on the side of the court away from Hugley, not forcing passes to Hugley or expecting Hugleyto make great passes out of the double team to the same side of the court.
Thoses passes don’t achieve much anyway. On shots from the same side, the double team essentially has Hugley boxed out,
Makethe defense pay for overplaying on side.
we should be trying to score on the side of the court away from Hugley, not forcing passes to Hugley or expecting Hugleyto make great passes out of the double team to the same side of the court.
Thoses passes don’t achieve much anyway. On shots from the same side, the double team essentially has Hugley boxed out,
Makethe defense pay for overplaying on side.
The reason you are trying to figure this out is telling of how awful this coaching staff is, we have no answers, for anything
He doesn’t move on offense 80% of the time , and most of that movement is from one side to the other with a hand up
This, and most teams have been getting into his legs early to push him out to 10-12 feet where he’s already less effective. His base is getting taken out and wearing him down even more.
This is honestly the first post I've ever seen PharmaBro make about basketball. His others are just insult replies to people. And I agree with you here. Good post.
Hugley needs coached. Bad. He is playing like we are either a) not coaching him at all or b) telling him the opposite of what he should he doing so we can lose and he can get his buyout.
Some of this is on Hugley but the kid is a freshman being guarded by 2 players. They have to do something to help him. The floor needs spread. 4 out, 1 in. Entry to Hugley and he needs to pass it quickly to the guy coming to double. It should be a layup drill.
Then you’re not paying attention , which isn’t surprising .
You should listen more and talk less .
We shouldn’t be running offense for him because he’s not good enough .
His offense should come as part of pick and rolls , or screen and rolls .
Mo Gueye gets open because he’s active , slashing , going side to side and working .
Horton and Hugley stand around and wait for everyone else to work to get them open .
If Collier were better he’s canabalize Hugley’s minutes - because he does the right things a big Should do. He actually creates flow and space for other players
Hugley isn’t a freshman and he’s not getting double teamed . He’s getting guarded by a big- and a guard or wing is scraping down when he receives a pass. Because he’s a walking turnover , is too slow with the ball, and too selfish to pass out to the now open guard who’s man left.
It’s pretty clear that lots of folks haven’t played organized hoops much .
Our offense lacks defined sets - but we didn’t run offense for Blair or Adams with good coach , either - and they are 10x the player hugely is
Yes and no. It's his fault that he holds the ball too long and ends up trapped. it's not his fault that other teams have no problem dropping a second man and sometimes a third down on him knowing that the guy that is freed up can't score anyway.
Oh ok, my bad. I thought he just played 7 games last year and would be considered a Redshirt Freshman if the NCAA didn't pass the Covid extra year thing which makes the redshirt designation irrelevant. I also thought I saw him get double teamed a couple times this season. I guess I was wrong.
Yeah, I don’t think it is “all” on John.He is a good player (one of our best) being asked to do too much.
We would have zero chance to be competitive in any game without him.
Lately, he has increasingly become the focus of discipline and blame.I find that confusing, not understanding what that hopes to accomplish except resentment. Coach him up. Say what needs to be said in private. publicly making him the face of our failure (when there are so many other reasons) seems wrong And counterproductive.
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He’s been an awful post defender the entire season. It just is more magnified that he came back down on offense
This is the most frustrating part. Guys who were fat bigs in HS are usually Uber talented. He is not.
It's not all his fault. It doesn't help when Cappie runs the weave on offense which wastes 5-10 seconds on the shot clock and does not create any scoring opportunities, in fact when the 3 or 4 players are running it, they aren't even looking at the basket. Their eyes are just on the guy they are passing to. It's very easy to defend and V. Tech started jumping the passing lanes in the second half on Monday and just created more confusion for our guys.
Cappie also likes to have Hugs set high ball screens and pick and roll but NONE of these guards can run it properly. They either don't wait for the screen to see what the D is going to do or they wait for the screen but then don't penetrate to the proper side where the screen is set.
He is holding the ball too long but on many possessions, by the time they screw around with the weave or try to run pick and roll, the shot clock is winding down and then he gets the ball and is out of position and is rushed to do something.
But he is at fault for letting frustration on the O end effect his D. I'm sure getting double and triple teamed and losing so much is adding to his poor play. If anyone of you out there thinks you would not be affected under these same circumstances, then you are a better man than me.
Cappie also likes to have Hugs set high ball screens and pick and roll but NONE of these guards can run it properly. They either don't wait for the screen to see what the D is going to do or they wait for the screen but then don't penetrate to the proper side where the screen is set.
He is holding the ball too long but on many possessions, by the time they screw around with the weave or try to run pick and roll, the shot clock is winding down and then he gets the ball and is out of position and is rushed to do something.
But he is at fault for letting frustration on the O end effect his D. I'm sure getting double and triple teamed and losing so much is adding to his poor play. If anyone of you out there thinks you would not be affected under these same circumstances, then you are a better man than me.
It could be due to him not only getting abused on defense , but also having 5 or less rebounds 4 of the last 5 games .
Or the fact that he’s had more turnovers than rebounds frequently
Or because he’s dogging it back on defense
could be
like I said - if collier was a more capable player he’d easily be eating up Hugley’s minutes
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I just did not want to swell anyone’s head by agreeing 100%.
But, OK I will say it, I agree 100%.
Big John has finally figured out that when you are double teamed the faster you pass to the open man the better!
Where are you Gary? You have crawled into a hole, or are you planning another insurrection?
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