It’s official on Soriano
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I hate to say this but I am beginning to wonder if Capel has given up, similarly to Stallings and is basically holding Pitt hostage.
His recruiting this past year has been the worst in the P6.
so what do when if (most likely when) reid signs elsewhere.
i think our chances with him are in single digits at this time. it doesnt mean he didnt seriously consider us but things are not pointing our way. we have had 3 years of that so far.
man how time flies while things remain the same
i think our chances with him are in single digits at this time. it doesnt mean he didnt seriously consider us but things are not pointing our way. we have had 3 years of that so far.
man how time flies while things remain the same
Something on the pay board was mentioned today that had me piecing things together and wondering similarly. I'm not going to say what it was because of the can of worms it would open up, and the person who said it wasn't even mentioning in a way so as to indicate he has given up or anything even close to that. But it definitely had me wondering.
I’m among those who has thought it best to wait until the roster is complete. But if we go another cycle without a competent big - wwwwwoooooffffff.
I don’t have a clue who remains but I’m guessing it’s slim pickings. Aren’t many to go around and the good ones get scooped up quickly I’d imagine.
I think we have exhausted the first batch of grad transfers and are well into the second batch.
I expect there will be a smaller third batch, but....
we have gone 3 years so far without a c. history is a great indicator of future behavior and results UNLESS something has changed. our situation seems worse.
i think we get reid if its year 1 maybe 2 of capel but the last 3 years results arent impressing anyone for a year 4 commitment from guys like him
it shouldn't suprise people. NOTHING is pointing to this getting better so the "lets wait and see" approach is showing little hope based on the past
i hope we get reid, god i hope we do.i just dont think we will
I would find that very hard to believe given Capel's age and lifetime as a competitor in the game of basketball. You don't just get to the highest levels of your sport and your profession and "quit." I don't even think that Stallings did, but to the extent that's true, there are big professional and life differences between a 60 year old and a guy in his mid-40s.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence." I just think Capel doesn't "get it" when it comes to finding recruits that would commit to Pitt. There's an apparently large mismatch between what he's selling and what players are willing to buy. That's all this is.
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Yeah, I don't necessarily believe it either. Just something that made the conspiracy theorist in me think a bit.
Yea, I mean, I would guess that he hasn't "quit" but it just really looks like it to the point that if he really had, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean his recruiting is just soooooo bad.
I am wondering if he got so upset with the backlash he received from the kneeling and his social median in what's supposed to be a more liberal fanbase (northeastish, urban) that it turned him off. Probably not but his recruiting performance has been dreadful. Every bit as bad as Stallings and Dixon II
That’s been my take all along. If that happens his college coaching career is over. Lots of guys are good coaches and peter out as they rise. He probably wouldn’t have too much of an issue getting a head job again if it doesn’t work out here at a lower level. But if he’s not doing the job he won’t. And that kind of thing will get around if he’s coasting.
If it can be proven he’s mailing it in then they may be able to pursue the with cause angle. But I doubt that’s the case as stated above. Sucking, if that’s what it ends up being, will be fully paid if it comes to him being let go.
If there are rumors that he "quit" on an ACC team within a year of getting a contract extension, I would: 1) expect Pitt to claw back some of that salary (all executive contracts have a "best efforts" clause, if he's straight up not filling up classes multiple years in a row, there's a decent argument to be made that would support a clawback); and 2) that Capel would never get another major college basketball job again. You'll see him on Season 10 of Last Chance U coaching some JUCO in North Carolina.
It's starting to seem like we have major, major recruiting problems that don't have as much to do with the coach as we think.
High school might be his best level. You don’t “have” to recruit.
Maybe he can have his brother as associate head coach.
They have everything to do with the coach.
He was able to recruit. The fact that he can not now is all on him.
You think the difference between Capel recruiting to Duke as assistant coach and Capel recruiting to Pitt as head coach is the effort he's putting in?
No and I never said that.
I meant he was able to recruit as a firtst year coach at Pitt and in his second year at Pitt.
He is no longer able to recruit in his third year at Pitt both because of his record of failure and his inability to control, mold and maintain his talent.
No one wants to play for him.
Part of me thinks he has. He doesn't seem to have any plan on what kind of roster he wants and who to really focus on. He's a mess, hence so is the program.
OK, I misunderstood you there.
It's certainly fair to fault Capel for his failures. The roster is his responsibility. I just also keep in mind that we appear to be seeing the same recruiting limitations across multiple coaches. If we're looking for a new coach in a year or two let's keep that in mind and seek a system-oriented guy rather than someone who thinks they're going to come in and recruit top 50 players here.
He's recruiting guys like Reid hard enough to at least have them consider Pitt, but now we're saying he's quit? Maybe Capel needs to take it easy and go after 2 and low 3 star guys that want to come to Pitt.
I think you guys are just starting to make stuff up in order to express your dislike of him.
I think you guys are just starting to make stuff up in order to express your dislike of him.
hes just not that good at it to be shooting as high as he is. not landing better talent in his first 2 years hurt year 3.
we had the island of misfist toys, and they are all gone.
i swear murphy was the train with square wheels. trey was the jack in the box named john. and x was the owl that swims.
i think you are correct. i need to rewatch Rudolph this Christmas season
Can you expound a bit? I mean this isnt "premium info" just a rumor from a fan on a pay board.
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