It really is truly hard to believe that the ACC...

[YourPittDanceTeam]

launched its own sports network today without having firm commitments from all the major cable carriers in the area of the schools in the ACC.
As of right now, my cable company, Comcast does not carry the ACC network. I don't know why they don't nor do I really care and I certainly am not calling them to "not ask, but demand" that they offer it. As far as I am concerned that was the job of the ACC leadership and they evidently failed horribly at it.
Greed ruins many things in our lives. Marriages, families, friendships are ruined daily because of it and it does appear that it may very well be the downfall of the ACC network, even before it really gets a chance to get up and moving.

 

[FireballZ]

Awe. Poor, baby! Shutyup!
-Arnold S.

Most major providers are carrying it. Is Comcast even in prime ACC country?

 

[joeydavid]

launched its own sports network today without having firm commitments from all the major cable carriers in the area of the schools in the ACC.
As of right now, my cable company, Comcast does not carry the ACC network. I don't know why they don't nor do I really care and I certainly am not calling them to "not ask, but demand" that they offer it. As far as I am concerned that was the job of the ACC leadership and they evidently failed horribly at it.
Greed ruins many things in our lives. Marriages, families, friendships are ruined daily because of it and it does appear that it may very well be the downfall of the ACC network, even before it really gets a chance to get up and moving.

If only you had 5 or 6 other options...

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

launched its own sports network today without having firm commitments from all the major cable carriers in the area of the schools in the ACC.

Except it doesn't work that way, and I don't mean just with the ACC Network, I mean literally, it has never worked that way.

You understand that the ACC and ESPN cannot put a gun to Comcast's (or anyone else for that matter) proverbial head and demand that they put their network on the system, don't you?

 

[HailtoPitt]

It's all a scam anyway designed to get everyone's money. The fight is over who gets what share.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The fight is over who gets what share.

Isn't that what the fight is always over?

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I don’t have ACCN and have watched some of the Clemson game in 2 different places. Unless and until it’s on my carrier I’ll find what I’m after including the Pitt game. I’m not cancelling my cable or signing up and paying for yet another service.

And I’m sure some will get on me for doing that so have at it.

 

[Pittx9]

The fault here all lands on Comcast. All the evidence points to one thing.... Comcast felt they should get the channel for free since they already had a contract with Disney.

If that is the case, Comcast likely claimed since they had a contract to carry all Disney channels, this new channel should be added to the existing contract. Also that they wanted to give this to customers for no additional charge and couldn’t do so if they were forced to pay more themselves.

On Disney’s side if that is the case, they probably didn’t believe them (and why should they.) If they felt Comcast was gonna take this channel they received for no additional charge and then charge customers more, why would they be ok with that?

This is just a theory I have (so laugh or whatever if you disagree.) I just find it extremely hard to believe that Comcast went into these negotiations expecting to pay, but was the only major provider to receive such a high priced offer they didn’t think it was worth it.

 

[YourPittDanceTeam]

Awe. Poor, baby! Shutyup!
-Arnold S.

Most major providers are carrying it. Is Comcast even in prime ACC country?

It is one of the major cable carriers in the Pittsburgh area and that is where one of their schools is located.

 

[YourPittDanceTeam]

If only you had 5 or 6 other options...

I'm not worried about myself, I can get it. The point I was trying to make is that the ACC should have had all their major cable carriers ALREADY in place prior to its launch. Pretty dumb that the nation's #1 team opens it season and only not everyone gets to watch them.

 

[YourPittDanceTeam]

Except it doesn't work that way, and I don't mean just with the ACC Network, I mean literally, it has never worked that way.

You understand that the ACC and ESPN cannot put a gun to Comcast's (or anyone else for that matter) proverbial head and demand that they put their network on the system, don't you?

I do understand, it is all about MONEY.

 

[PHATWOOD]

If conference networks waited until they had full carriage to launch, none of them would exist.

That's just not how it works, and the BTN and SEC Network didn't have full carriage on day one.

This turmoil is precisely what helps bring companies to the table to finally make a deal. It's actually GOOD for the cause.

 

[FireballZ]

Yes. It is the dominant carrier in the ACC region. Idiot.

Hmm, no. It’s not. Spectrum is the main carrier in the Carolinas and Kentucky, so that’s half the teams without any research. Is Comcast the only option in yinzerburgh?

 

[HailtoPitt]

Isn't that what the fight is always over?

Not in this case. They are forcing people to pay for a product most don't want. It's almost like a tax and the network and cable companies are batteling for who gets to each in and scoop the biggest haul.

 

[ThePanthers]

I do understand, it is all about MONEY.

You really dont.

 

[McKee Place]

Surreptitious ways to get the games will inevitably be leaked on the 'black web'. Or just via Google for that matter...

Or more reliably, join as a trial and cancel, or find a friend who has an account to one of these rinky dink services that have it, go to his place. Or beg for his id and password. Or go to a bar. A Pittsburgh bar might have to be coaxed to put our game on though.

Ultimately the behemoth will add it. Maybe not for awhile. Se leve. Se leve. That's just the way it goes. That's life. Punchin' in. Punchin' out. Is this really what life's all about? Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna feel? I don't know.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

launched its own sports network today without having firm commitments from all the major cable carriers in the area of the schools in the ACC.
As of right now, my cable company, Comcast does not carry the ACC network. I don't know why they don't nor do I really care and I certainly am not calling them to "not ask, but demand" that they offer it. As far as I am concerned that was the job of the ACC leadership and they evidently failed horribly at it.
Greed ruins many things in our lives. Marriages, families, friendships are ruined daily because of it and it does appear that it may very well be the downfall of the ACC network, even before it really gets a chance to get up and moving.

You're joking right?

 

[JD1976]

BTN wasn’t available throughout Central PA when it was launched. PAC 12 network is going on 6 or 7 years without being on major providers. At least with ACCN there are affordable OTT options available if you really want it. Honestly, the carriage ACCN has is decent if you look at it objectively — of course, most of us have Comcast so it’s hard to be objective.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

I'm not worried about myself, I can get it. The point I was trying to make is that the ACC should have had all their major cable carriers ALREADY in place prior to its launch. Pretty dumb that the nation's #1 team opens it season and only not everyone gets to watch them.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that you're suggesting that the ACCN should not have been launched (at great expense) on it's August 22 start date, because Comcast chose not to pay the fees to be able to offer the channel to their customers?

The angst expressed should be directed at Comcast, not ESPN, or the ACCN.

ESPN allowed any TV provider who wanted to satisfy it's customers to negotiate a deal that would allow them to. Comcast decided not to satisfy their customers. That's hardly ESPN's or the ACCN's fault.

 

[superstein61a]

I'm not worried about myself, I can get it. The point I was trying to make is that the ACC should have had all their major cable carriers ALREADY in place prior to its launch. Pretty dumb that the nation's #1 team opens it season and only not everyone gets to watch them.

Try educating yourself before posting and making a fool of yourself. That is simply not how it works. Never has been

 

[superstein61a]

Is Comcast the only option in yinzerburgh?

Nope - FIOS has a big presence in the Greater Pittsburgh area and carries the ACCN. And quite frankly, FIOS is a better product than Comcast IMO

Not to mention the many streaming options

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Not in this case. They are forcing people to pay for a product most don't want. It's almost like a tax and the network and cable companies are batteling for who gets to each in and scoop the biggest haul.

So I say it's all about who gets what share of the money, and you say no, I'm wrong, it's about who gets what share of the money.

Oooooo-kay.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Hmm, no. It’s not. Spectrum is the main carrier in the Carolinas and Kentucky, so that’s half the teams without any research. Is Comcast the only option in yinzerburgh?

I already posted the chart, but Comcast is the dominant carrier in PA, VA, New England, Florida, Georgia.....so.....again....what do you think?

 

[H2PisIT]

I don’t have ACCN and have watched some of the Clemson game in 2 different places. Unless and until it’s on my carrier I’ll find what I’m after including the Pitt game. I’m not cancelling my cable or signing up and paying for yet another service.

And I’m sure some will get on me for doing that so have at it.

Just curious what the 2 different places were if you didn't have to pay up for another service?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

launched its own sports network today without having firm commitments from all the major cable carriers in the area of the schools in the ACC.
As of right now, my cable company, Comcast does not carry the ACC network. I don't know why they don't nor do I really care and I certainly am not calling them to "not ask, but demand" that they offer it. As far as I am concerned that was the job of the ACC leadership and they evidently failed horribly at it.
Greed ruins many things in our lives. Marriages, families, friendships are ruined daily because of it and it does appear that it may very well be the downfall of the ACC network, even before it really gets a chance to get up and moving.

Aren’t you being greedy?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I do understand, it is all about MONEY.

Yep
Yours - since you’re unwilling to pay for literally the 3 other services which provide for it.

 

[vietvet1]

If only you had 5 or 6 other options...

Joey, can’t you see? This conundrum is all Trumps fault! /s

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Nope - FIOS has a big presence in the Greater Pittsburgh area and carries the ACCN. And quite frankly, FIOS is a better product than Comcast IMO

Not to mention the many streaming options

That’s interesting. I’m not a Comcast cheerleader because I’m looking for reasons to cut the cord. I just don’t know what I would do without everything they offer and can’t imagine how fios could be better.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

That’s interesting. I’m not a Comcast cheerleader because I’m looking for reasons to cut the cord. I just don’t know what I would do without everything they offer and can’t imagine how fios could be better.

Isn't Fios 100% fiber optic? If so, the internet connection speeds, and the v/o phone would be the benefits. All of the TV providers basically offer the same programming.

 

[wbrpanther]

Awe. Poor, baby! Shutyup!
-Arnold S.

Most major providers are carrying it. Is Comcast even in prime ACC country?

Yeah. All over the ACC except for North Carolina. So think before you open your pie hole.

 

[wbrpanther]

The fault here all lands on Comcast. All the evidence points to one thing.... Comcast felt they should get the channel for free since they already had a contract with Disney.

If that is the case, Comcast likely claimed since they had a contract to carry all Disney channels, this new channel should be added to the existing contract. Also that they wanted to give this to customers for no additional charge and couldn’t do so if they were forced to pay more themselves.

On Disney’s side if that is the case, they probably didn’t believe them (and why should they.) If they felt Comcast was gonna take this channel they received for no additional charge and then charge customers more, why would they be ok with that?

This is just a theory I have (so laugh or whatever if you disagree.) I just find it extremely hard to believe that Comcast went into these negotiations expecting to pay, but was the only major provider to receive such a high priced offer they didn’t think it was worth it.

My opinion is Comcast wants to put it on a higher tier and the ACCN says no. This was the problem when the BIG channel launched.

 

[wbrpanther]

Joey, can’t you see? This conundrum is all Trumps fault! /s

That's a workable theory.

 

[wbrpanther]

Hmm, no. It’s not. Spectrum is the main carrier in the Carolinas and Kentucky, so that’s half the teams without any research. Is Comcast the only option in yinzerburgh?

By my count that is 5 teams. If you look at the coverage map Comcast covers well above half.

 

[happjack]

If conference networks waited until they had full carriage to launch, none of them would exist.

That's just not how it works, and the BTN and SEC Network didn't have full carriage on day one.

This turmoil is precisely what helps bring companies to the table to finally make a deal. It's actually GOOD for the cause.

This and add the NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA TV and NHL Network to that list too.

I'm in the Detroit area and in one of the few areas that doesn't have Comcast as the provider, I have Spectrum and the other option is AT&T U-Verse. I have Spectrum and for some reason the ACC Network isn't going to come onto my system until September 6, but it's part of the regular sports package which includes all of the conference channels and pro league channels.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Isn't Fios 100% fiber optic? If so, the internet connection speeds, and the v/o phone would be the benefits. All of the TV providers basically offer the same programming.

Thanks for that. Home phone is a thing of the past but I do have issues with Comcast internet at times. So maybe there’s something to that.

As far as programming and the DVR platform, I’m pretty happy. Except for the fact that I believe I have to subscribe to useless premium channels like Cinemax and showtime if I want HD. That’s frustrating.

 

[H2PisIT]

Does anybody know what's considered a full week in the "Free Trial" game? I plan on signing up for Hulu Live tomorrow at 7:00pm. I wonder if it will last long enough where i can piggyback the pitt v ohio game @ 11:00am next sat? And then do YouTube TV free trial for thenext ACC only game! I feel like an absolute cheap sleezebucket even typing this.

 

[pittzap]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read that you're suggesting that the ACCN should not have been launched (at great expense) on it's August 22 start date, because Comcast chose not to pay the fees to be able to offer the channel to their customers?

The angst expressed should be directed at Comcast, not ESPN, or the ACCN.

ESPN allowed any TV provider who wanted to satisfy it's customers to negotiate a deal that would allow them to. Comcast decided not to satisfy their customers. That's hardly ESPN's or the ACCN's fault.

Exactly. The ACC shouldn't wait around for Comcast. Release the channel, as there are a bunch of others who do carry it. No way you allow Comcast to hold the channel hostage.

 

[Pitt79]

I don’t have ACCN and have watched some of the Clemson game in 2 different places. Unless and until it’s on my carrier I’ll find what I’m after including the Pitt game. I’m not cancelling my cable or signing up and paying for yet another service.

And I’m sure some will get on me for doing that so have at it.

I just won't watch any Pitt game on ACCN, I'm not cancelling, changing or paying for anything extra. If I want to watch football tomorrow there are another 888 games on TV.

 

[Pittx9]

My opinion is Comcast wants to put it on a higher tier and the ACCN says no. This was the problem when the BIG channel launched.

That could definitely be it and may be closer to the truth than the theory I brought up. There’s just one problem I have with that theory.

Obviously from a business standpoint Comcast’s benefit would be it’s a high demand channel, the people that want it will pay for it. Put it in a higher package and hope that a lot of people that want it don’t have that package and will upgrade.

From a customer service standpoint (which they no doubt would try to spin it as), they’d argue they would have to raise the price of the lower package and don’t want to make people who don’t want the channel have to pay extra.

The thing is though, their customers are under contracts. They can raise the prices all they want, if you’re under contract you’re not paying any more. So if this is the case, they’re holding out on the hopes that enough people that want it don’t have the higher package and will upgrade.

The risk is exactly what is happening though, they are losing customers as they haven’t come to an agreement. So was this worth holding out in hopes (not even a guarantee) that enough people would upgrade, knowing that the downfall is losing all this money on lost customers?

I think your theory makes a lot of sense. I would just be amazed at how dumb Comcast really would have to be to be that petty. Pissing away money in hopes of hitting the lottery is what bums at the local 7-11 do, not successful businesses.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

My opinion is Comcast wants to put it on a higher tier and the ACCN says no. This was the problem when the BIG channel launched.

yeah, I would think this is the exact holdup.