Jamie Dixon vs Another Pitt Coach

[steel_curtain]

Last 4 years

2012-Big East-Tied for 14 place in conference-CBI- Record- 17-16
2013-Big East-4th place-Ncaa- 24-8 record
2014-Acc-5th place-Ncaa- 25-9 record
2015-Acc-Tied for 11th place-NIT-19-15 record



2016-Projection-11th-12th place-NIT or CBI


Jamie Dixon is the 15th highest paid coach in the country according to business insider and sporting news. If Pitt dumped Dixon, is it really that hard to find a replacement for the last 5 years to equal those lousy results above? How much lower can Pitt sink? Pitt has great facilities and plays in the ACC, the best conference in the country.

The only programs Pitt has outperformed in the ACC going into next year with these 5 years of results with next years projections are Clemson, Wake, BC, GT, and VT. That puts Pitt as the 10th best program in the ACC with a Coach that makes Top 15 money (I thought it was Top 10 but it is Top 15 Nationally). Again, is this a joke?


Is this acceptable?

Now, the excuse has been put to place that Pitt has no homegrown talent. And well, that is a bunch of bullshit. Here are a few players that have come from the area recently.

Micah Mason
TJ McConnell
Maverick Rowan
Zeke Marshall
Deandre Kane
Dejuan Blair
Herb Pope

Plenty of kids came out of PA that went to Penn State or Temple or Villanova. Let alone from Pitt's backyard that went somewhere else that Pitt either didn't recruit or try.


And Pitt still has the worst guards in the ACC and I still don't see Dixon trying to fix the problem. So again, let's stop with the excuses because its become a joke.


Dixon should be on a short leash as far as Im concerned. Top 15 money Nationally with this type of performance? Please.

 

[Pittbaseball11]

Jamie Dixon was 15th highest paid among coaches who were in the 2013 NCAA Tournament. Tom Crean, Buzz Williams, JTIII, etc. are all making more apparently.

 

[Ski11585]

You really think Pitt missed on Mason? Well, at least that makes it easy to dismiss your post.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Ski....

There maybe inaccuracies in the list of kids that Pitt "missed out on", but the fact Jamie is so well compensated by seemingly every NCAA run he got a raise, well.......why isn't he getting a pay cut for these recent failures?

He is not evolving or getting better as coach and we are getting passed up.

I know, I know the refrain...but...but...but...."we are not a blue blood". We went to 7 of 8 BET tourney Champ games, winning two of them, going to the NCAA what, 10 years in a row, and actually garnering a #1 seed 2 out of 3 years, which is Duke like.

And we never built onto that success like Wisconsin has. We had our opportunity. We blew it. Jamie blew it. So here we are.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Dixon is not "highly paid." He's making the market rate for being a "good" coach. If he has a couple more good years, we'll probably have to bump him to $3 million. Coaching salaries are going through the roof. If we had to replace him, we'd have to spend a minimum of $3 million to get just a "good" coach.

The last 4 years has not been good and next year may not be but he deserves and will get more time to fix this.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

No one is happy with what's happening with Pitt bb ,but your dreaming if you think Pitt is replacing a coach who has proved that he can win here who plays by the rules and has a huge buyout. What does JDs compensation have to do with anything? Are you paying it? Paying him less wouldnt lower tutition or ticket prices would it ? Would any of the top 25 coaches in the country leave their current job to come to Pitt? Maybe Pa should enact a new law that allows Pitt the right of eminent domain on any D1 athlete in WPa( might as well help Pitt FB too) it wants. Your list of players wouldn't make Pitt a national power house and the best player on that list went to Pitt. Pitts best chance of becoming the elite program we'd all like is by keeping a proven winning coach not replacing him with an up and coming guy because that's the best they could do.

 

[Harve74]

Originally posted by Ski11585:
You really think Pitt missed on Mason? Well, at least that makes it easy to dismiss your post.

You can throw Kane out of that list too.

We couldn't sign him out of high school. He was a partial qualifier and ineligible in the ACC until his 5th year and he wanted an illegal benefit to come here then.

McConnell committed to Duquesne as a 5-8 sophomore ad Duquesne bloced him from transferring here.

Pope went to New Mexico State because literally no one else would touch him with hs grades and personal issues. They fought with the NCAA to get him eligible and he repaid thm by transferring after they got him eligible. Not the kind of guy we want on our roster.

We recruited Marshall hard. He wanted to go somewhere with less pressure and lower competition and went to the MAC.

We had Rowan committed and are still recruiting him.

Basically, the list is BS.

 

[NTOP]

Your first line is wrong. Your "projection" WILL be wrong.

Entitled you are not. I'm sure you want one of the traitor Millers or Mike Rice as coach.

 

[NTOP]

How was 13-14 not "good"??*

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[KiwiJeff]

Originally posted by recruitsreadtheseboards:

Ski....

There maybe inaccuracies in the list of kids that Pitt "missed out on", but the fact Jamie is so well compensated by seemingly every NCAA run he got a raise, well.......why isn't he getting a pay cut for these recent failures?

He is not evolving or getting better as coach and we are getting passed up.

I know, I know the refrain...but...but...but...."we are not a blue blood". We went to 7 of 8 BET tourney Champ games, winning two of them, going to the NCAA what, 10 years in a row, and actually garnering a #1 seed 2 out of 3 years, which is Duke like.

And we never built onto that success like Wisconsin has. We had our opportunity. We blew it. Jamie blew it. So here we are.

This is stupid. No coach has his salary changed for a down period. You realize that ALL schools have up and down streaks? Name one team, at any level, in any sport, that improves every year forever. It has nothing to do with being or not being a blue blood, other than down periods for blue bloods tend to be shorter, as they can restock better players faster. Nova, Purdue, NC State, Marquette, Notre Dame, Memphis, all have had down periods. And that's not even a comprehensive list. Boeheim missed the tourney two years in a row WITH good recruiting. It happens in sports, all the time, every year. How do you guys not see this? I guarantee at least once or twice in the next decade, Wisconsin will miss the tourney. I guess by definition, if they come into the tourney next year as a 6 seed and lose their first game, their program too would technically be in decline. And I'm sure there will be folks like you saying, how could he not build on his success!???? "We had our opportunity, we blew it". How dumb.

 

[thebadby2]

The absolute worst thing that could happen to Pitt basketball right now...

would be to lose our coach.

I think it's reasonable for him to feel some heat, and I'm sure he does--he's a highly paid professional, he knows his job is to win games and play for championships, and I'm 100% certain that he wants it more than anyone. I believe he understands the issues that have been plaguing this team better than anyone and that he can and will address them, but it can't be done in one recruiting season.

This talk of letting him go is just a joke. let's just hope he doesn't seek greener pastures under his own steam.

 

[Ski11585]

Recruits,

Should Huggins have gotten a paycut? What about other good coaches who have suffered blip years. There is a lot of legit criticism we can point towards Dixon. But the level of discourse on these boards is so shockingly low I wonder if half these posters know how to think critically. I get that people are upset, but I only see a whining, entitled fanbase that cannot present logical arguments.

 

[Cap pitt]

Re: The absolute worst thing that could happen to Pitt basketball right now...

I hope he does leave I think it's time to make a change, after 12 years what have we won a couple of big
east tourney championships and nothing else and the last 4 years we are heading in the wrong direction, there are some smaller schools we can't out recruit, there is something definitely wrong because it seems we can land the higher stars even in our own back yard, you never know someone from a smaller school could come in and bring his style of recruiting here

 

[heybandguy]

I have been disappointed in Pitt's recruiting. They have more misses recently than hits.
Still - Young and Artis have done nicely the last two years. Only two sucessful recruits does not make a team though.

As 15th highest paid - I do expect more in recruiting, in the game.
What I don't expect from the 15th highest paid coach is to bring in players who do not understand what it takes for them to be academically eligible or have significant character flaws that prohibit them from developing as basketball players. I think there are reasons, pointed out by others, why Dixon did not approach some of the players on the list.

Better character guys with more talent and/or higher basketball iq are available, but JD has not won those recruiting battles recently. I am hopeful that Wilson is the first in a line that turn that tide. I don't think it is a matter of trying to get better recruits - by all accounts he has aimed high for several prospects - it just has not worked out that he could land them. There are no ribbons or medals for trying, but I feel he has earned the opportunity to correct the problems on the roster and try again.