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Jayla Everett Dismissed From PITT WBB Team

Don't follow much of coach white and his team but this seems less than ideal
 
Looking like Heather is going to be 0-fer on her two basketball hires. My confidence isn't super high that she can get it right the next time for either program.

Heather is great at retaining other people's hires (Narduzzi, Fisher, Vidovich) and not so great at hiring people (Capel, White, softball). Maybe she should let someone else hire coaches from now and then she can retain them.

And you guys trust her to pick a winning MM lottery ticket
 
Maybe for the best?


Without knowing the circumstances it's hard to say. I mean if she is continually breaking team rules you can't have that. And so yes, at some point you just have to cut ties.

But if you mean best on the court, well no. Not even close. Best would be her doing what she was supposed to be doing and her actually playing.
 
Looking like Heather is going to be 0-fer on her two basketball hires. My confidence isn't super high that she can get it right the next time for either program.
Worst case should be going 1-2, but since this is Pitt no surprise it is an 0-fer. Fabulous decision making with coaching hires continues.
 
Without knowing the circumstances it's hard to say. I mean if she is continually breaking team rules you can't have that. And so yes, at some point you just have to cut ties.

But if you mean best on the court, well no. Not even close. Best would be her doing what she was supposed to be doing and her actually playing.
Former, not the later.

I have soured on her actual play over time.
 
Heather is great at retaining other people's hires (Narduzzi, Fisher, Vidovich) and not so great at hiring people (Capel, White, softball). Maybe she should let someone else hire coaches from now and then she can retain them.

And you guys trust her to pick a winning MM lottery ticket

Gavin/wrestling TBD, so far not bad. Same with Women's soccer/Lacrosse. Can't get every hire right but basketball is big. I don't have a lot of confidence in the next hire but she definitely deserves a chance to get it right.
 
Looking at her career stats, her best year was as a freshman at New Mexico. She has apparently not progressed at all.


Maybe, but Pitt is, or I guess was, asking her to do a lot more than New Mexico was. When you are the only player on the team that can make threes at even a decent rate you probably end up shooting them a lot more often than you should, simply because there is no other choice. When you only have one other player on your team that can get a shot for themselves you end up having to take shots that you probably shouldn't, simply because there is no other choice.
 
Maybe, but Pitt is, or I guess was, asking her to do a lot more than New Mexico was. When you are the only player on the team that can make threes at even a decent rate you probably end up shooting them a lot more often than you should, simply because there is no other choice. When you only have one other player on your team that can get a shot for themselves you end up having to take shots that you probably shouldn't, simply because there is no other choice.
The Georgia Tech men did not seem to have those problems.
 
Devoe.. The announcers spent half their time talking about Tech’s lack of a third scoring option.

Tech runs offense.


OK, I thought you probably meant Devoe, but I wanted to make sure that you weren't talking about the guy who had 14 and 7 yesterday or the other guy who had a 10-8-5 line, because it was almost as if those guys were doing a lot to carry that team as well.
 
OK, I thought you probably meant Devoe, but I wanted to make sure that you weren't talking about the guy who had 14 and 7 yesterday or the other guy who had a 10-8-5 line, because it was almost as if those guys were doing a lot to carry that team as well.
The guy with 14 and 7 is a center. The guy with 10 and 8 is a power forward.

Do they shot threes or get shots for themselves or do they get opportunities to score because Tech runs offense?
 
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Do they shot threes or get shots for themselves or do they get opportunities to score because Tech runs offense?


Well one of those guys has taken 98 threes so far this season, which is only five fewer than the Pitt player who has taken the most threes this season and 16 more than the Pitt player who has taken the second most.

But yeah, they get opportunities to score because Tech runs offense. Just like Devoe does. Just like the Pitt players do.

I mean I get that some people here like to posit that Pitt doesn't run any offense, but that is obviously incorrect. What they really mean is that Pitt doesn't run the offense the way that they wish Pitt would run the offense.

You can't seriously believe that Pitt isn't running any offense, can you?
 
Well one of those guys has taken 98 threes so far this season, which is only five fewer than the Pitt player who has taken the most threes this season and 16 more than the Pitt player who has taken the second most.

But yeah, they get opportunities to score because Tech runs offense. Just like Devoe does. Just like the Pitt players do.

I mean I get that some people here like to posit that Pitt doesn't run any offense, but that is obviously incorrect. What they really mean is that Pitt doesn't run the offense the way that they wish Pitt would run the offense.

You can't seriously believe that Pitt isn't running any offense, can you?
Are we talking Pitt women or Pitt men here? Do the Pitt women run offense?

I think the Pitt men have changed their offense. I don’t think it is just Horton and improved spacing.

I believe Kyle Cieplicki has played a part in the change of offense.
 
Are we talking Pitt women or Pitt men here? Do the Pitt women run offense?

I think the Pitt men have changed their offense. I don’t think it is just Horton and improved spacing.

I believe Kyle Cieplicki has played a part in the change of offense.
This from Craig Meyer

There's more cutting and more movement generally. It's been less of the four-out offense it was previously

While I wouldn't be surprised if he has provided some input, I wouldn't necessarily say it's a Cieplicki offense.
 
Maybe, but Pitt is, or I guess was, asking her to do a lot more than New Mexico was. When you are the only player on the team that can make threes at even a decent rate you probably end up shooting them a lot more often than you should, simply because there is no other choice. When you only have one other player on your team that can get a shot for themselves you end up having to take shots that you probably shouldn't, simply because there is no other choice.

That may well be correct, but she even saw a drop-off at New Mexico between her first and second years. And she shot free throws at 80% as a freshman, but has fallen each year and is at 66% this year. I have never seen her play, just going by stats, which can be misleading. But they do point to a player who has not improved during her 4 years.
 
Looking like Heather is going to be 0-fer on her two basketball hires. My confidence isn't super high that she can get it right the next time for either program.
That's why im not too passionate about the Fire-Capel agenda right now. yeah, he's not good but so we buy him out and then it's up to Lyke to find the next saviour of our hoops program. Lets just say im not putting money on her doing that..
 
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Gavin/wrestling TBD, so far not bad. Same with Women's soccer/Lacrosse. Can't get every hire right but basketball is big. I don't have a lot of confidence in the next hire but she definitely deserves a chance to get it right.
Gavin has been ok. I don't follow wrestling that much but Western and Central PA is arguably the best wrestling recruiting area in the country so, honestly, I think the ceiling for Pitt wrestling is team national championship level. I mean look at volleyball and men's soccer and those sports dont produce any local recruits. Not to say I expect wrestling national championships but I think Pitt should be a national contendor but Gavin has been ok.

Waldrum for women's soccer has been good but still hasn't reached the NCAAT.

Bottom line is you have to give her coach hirings a 2 or 3 out of 10. That aint good folks.
 
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Former, not the later.

I have soured on her actual play over time.
I agree. She has been the leading scorer, but she also is a major volume shooter who typically goes 5-20 to score 13-15 points. Just not efficient enough.
 
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Well one of those guys has taken 98 threes so far this season, which is only five fewer than the Pitt player who has taken the most threes this season and 16 more than the Pitt player who has taken the second most.

But yeah, they get opportunities to score because Tech runs offense. Just like Devoe does. Just like the Pitt players do.

I mean I get that some people here like to posit that Pitt doesn't run any offense, but that is obviously incorrect. What they really mean is that Pitt doesn't run the offense the way that they wish Pitt would run the offense.

You can't seriously believe that Pitt isn't running any offense, can you?
Yeah, that continues to be my issue with what Pitt fans say. Of course we run and offense and when we make shots it looks good and when we don’t, it does not.
 
Gavin has been ok. I don't follow wrestling that much but Western and Central PA is arguably the best wrestling recruiting area in the country so, honestly, I think the ceiling for Pitt wrestling is team national championship level. I mean look at volleyball and men's soccer and those sports dont produce any local recruits. Not to say I expect wrestling national championships but I think Pitt should be a national contendor but Gavin has been ok.

Waldrum for women's soccer has been good but still hasn't reached the NCAAT.

Bottom line is you have to give her coach hirings a 2 or 3 out of 10. That aint good folks.
No, Eastern PA is the best wrestling in the country and he needs to hit that are better.
 
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Only seeing Pitt women and
Everett on TV, it's hard to
notice what's going on
behind the scenes with her
and the rest of the team.
I noticed maybe three or four
games ago that Everett
walked off the floor in what
appeared to be frustration,
while Coach White was
motioning the players to
acknowledge/wave to the
other team. I'm guessing
that she's hard to coach.
She's been suspended before,
right? Again with no info.
I assume it's a tream rules
or discipline situation.

She obviously has Bball
skills her team mates do
not have. Lately she's been
going even more one on one
than usual, firing up ill
timed, and off balanced
shots, and no look passes,
etc. That's not enough to
get booted though. Probably
some off court things. You
folks that watch this team
in person......any ideas?
 
Yeah, that continues to be my issue with what Pitt fans say. Of course we run and offense and when we make shots it looks good and when we don’t, it does not.
Exactly. There's times I
don't like what Pitt is
running on the offensive
end, but they clearly are
running an offense. Hell,
when X was over dribbling,
going one on one too
often, and firing up hail
Mary's in the lane.....yes
that too was an offense.
It was a pg oriented offense
that Capel clearly designed
for his pg. Many on here,
didn't like it, but Pitt was
running offense.
 
Exactly. There's times I
don't like what Pitt is
running on the offensive
end, but they clearly are
running an offense. Hell,
when X was over dribbling,
going one on one too
often, and firing up hail
Mary's in the lane.....yes
that too was an offense.
It was a pg oriented offense
that Capel clearly designed
for his pg. Many on here,
didn't like it, but Pitt was
running offense.
I think the discussion started with how our women play versus how the Georgia Tech men played.

It revolved around could our women get more players involved and play more of a team concept rather than rely on two free lance inefficient volumn shooters.
 
Heather is great at retaining other people's hires (Narduzzi, Fisher, Vidovich) and not so great at hiring people (Capel, White, softball). Maybe she should let someone else hire coaches from now and then she can retain them.

And you guys trust her to pick a winning MM lottery ticket

White and especially Capel were universally seen as great hires at the time. I can't fault her too much with either of those hires.
 
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I think the discussion started with how our women play versus how the Georgia Tech men played.

It revolved around could our women get more players involved and play more of a team concept rather than rely on two free lance inefficient volumn shooters.
Oh, ok. I thought it
was also about our men.
I must have misread it.
 
D

Capel I get. White? What was
it about an assistant coach
who was never anything but
a grad assistant, and later an
assistant coach, that made
him "seen as a great hire at
the time?"

Ok, maybe not great but solid. It seemed like a solid hire to me at the time, after what had transpired with SMS.
 
Now that you mentioned
SMS, I see why some might
see anyone as an improvement.
I live in eastern Pa. Whatever
baggage, and bad feelings locals
had with her is/was unknown to
me. Her hall of fame credential,
and success as a player and a
head coach doesn't mean she
would do well at Pitt, and she
didn't. However, White? There's
nothing in his background that
suggests he was anything but a
big gamble.
 
Gavin has been ok. I don't follow wrestling that much but Western and Central PA is arguably the best wrestling recruiting area in the country so, honestly, I think the ceiling for Pitt wrestling is team national championship level. I mean look at volleyball and men's soccer and those sports dont produce any local recruits. Not to say I expect wrestling national championships but I think Pitt should be a national contendor but Gavin has been ok.


So in your eyes the best finish in 50 years at the NCAA tournament last season was merely OK. If the basketball team had their best season in 50 years next year would that also simply be OK? Or how about football? Or any other sport for that matter?
 
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No clue what went on with Jayla Everett, but her shooting has gotten poor this season. When she arrived, she shot great early in the season, then cooled off. That seems to be a pattern.

Last game I saw at the Pete was against Syracuse where she played pretty well - until late in the game when Pitt was trying to hang on and Jayla dribbled into traffic and put up an awkward shot that hit the backboard about a foot left of the hoop…

Unfortunately, I don’t see her leaving as much of a loss. But this team really needs to find some players who can score - especially in the first and fourth quarters… 🤔

Go Pitt.
 
So in your eyes the best finish in 50 years at the NCAA tournament last season was merely OK. If the basketball team had their best season in 50 years next year would that also simply be OK? Or how about football? Or any other sport for that matter?

Yes. He's been ok. Not Fisher/Vidovich level when there's enough locals to win an NCAA
 
That's why im not too passionate about the Fire-Capel agenda right now. yeah, he's not good but so we buy him out and then it's up to Lyke to find the next saviour of our hoops program. Lets just say im not putting money on her doing that..
Well most likely she'll be doing it the following year anyways so not sure I see your point. It's not like she won't be here in 2023 to hire a new bball coach. I'd rather it be done sooner rather than later.
 
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