Jets to release Darrelle Revis

[Tony Zimmermans Dennys Adversary]

Wow I guess that Southside incident along with diminishing abilities are going to cost one of the best cornerbacks ever his spot on the Jets. Can't say that I'm shocked. Should the Steelers take a flyer on him?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...nform-darrelle-revis-of-his-impending-release

Jets owner Woody Johnson issued a statement via the team's website.

"Darrelle Revis is one of the greatest players to ever wear a Jets uniform," Johnson said. "His combination of talent, preparation and instincts is rare and helped him become one of the most dominant players of his generation. I appreciate Darrelle's contributions to this organization and, wherever his career takes him, his home will always be here with the Jets."

 

[Pittx9]

They were 100% getting rid of him already before the incident. Honestly I thought it had already been made official but I guess it wasn't. I think his best bet is to move to safety and play a few more years.

 

[Tony Zimmermans Dennys Adversary]

They were 100% getting rid of him already before the incident. Honestly I thought it had already been made official but I guess it wasn't. I think his best bet is to move to safety and play a few more years.

Yea the Jets are going full rebuild first they released Mangold now Revis. I hate Mike Mitchell and his celebrations after every play, even when we give up 15 yards. Just because of my personal dislike for Mitchell, if Revis indeed moves to safety I'd love to see him come home.

 

[Pittx9]

Yea the Jets are going full rebuild first they released Mangold now Revis. I hate Mike Mitchell and his celebrations after every play, even when we give up 15 yards. Just because of my personal dislike for Mitchell, if Revis indeed moves to safety I'd love to see him come home.

You're telling me. If I were the steelers I would ask if he were willing to move to safety, if the answers yes I wouldn't let him leave without signing. I absolutely can not stand mike Mitchell. Good player, hard hitter. But at his actual position, he is absolute garbage. You are the FREE SAFETY, you can not charge at everyone with your head and let everyone get behind you. Revis at his current age and having played corner all these years would still be a monumental improvement from Mitchell.

 

[woodpecker1]

They were 100% getting rid of him already before the incident. Honestly I thought it had already been made official but I guess it wasn't. I think his best bet is to move to safety and play a few more years.

Agreed. reminds me of the Steelers situation with Rod Woodson. (one of the few mistakes the Steelers made when releasing a player) Rod had some nice years as a safety with the 49ers, Ravens and Raiders.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

Agreed. reminds me of the Steelers situation with Rod Woodson. Rod had some nice years as a safety with the 49ers, Ravens and Raiders.

Dickerson sat in for Zeise again on the fan and everything made sense for him to come home to our great city !

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

More like....the decision to release Revis will free up $9.3 million in cap space for the Jets. Revis was set to count $15.3 million against the cap. Instead, the Jets will only be hit with his $6 million dead-money cap number. The veteran corner had three years left on a five-year deal that he signed with the Jets before the 2015 season.

 

[Jpripper88]

Sounds like the market will be very thin for him and he might just rather retire. Really sucks he went downhill so quickly. It now seems likely we won't be able to add him to the Pitt Panther NFL HoF club.

 

[upj87]

Sounds like the market will be very thin for him and he might just rather retire. Really sucks he went downhill so quickly. It now seems likely we won't be able to add him to the Pitt Panther NFL HoF club.

why not? not a lot of (if any) four time all pros not in the hall

 

[Swervin27]

why not? not a lot of (if any) four time all pros not in the hall

there are actually quite a few players not in HOF that have been 4 or more all pros.. I think he gets in but it will take a few years. doesn't have that many INTs..

 

[HailtoPitt]

He does have the fight on the Southside going for him, so that's a positive to get him onto the Steelers. However, playing for Pitt might be the deal breaker .

 

[Jpripper88]

why not? not a lot of (if any) four time all pros not in the hall

It is going to be tough. He only played for a decade. For many of those years he was one of the best at his position. He essentially missed an entire year to injury. The past two years he has been a liability. There are 14 (primarily) CBs in the NFL HoF and 10 of them played 14+ years. Only 1 played fewer seasons than Revis. All of them have far, far more INTs. The next lowest would have 18 more than Revis. Plus, in comparison with other top contemporary CBs (Woodson, Law, Bailey, Barber) Revis would fall way short just the same, so even though interceptions have certainly taken a precipitous drop recently, guys who will be getting in soon, and may still be on the ballot with him, will have a couple numbers that really stand out in comparison.

I think it will be tough and he certainly has a case, but the folks voting for the HoF generally really appreciate longevity and counting stats, plus his last impressions will be really bad. None of that is good for him.

 

[Pitt1992]

He's not going to retire,he will find a team,theirs plenty of teams that will take a chance

 

[Jpripper88]

He's not going to retire,he will find a team,theirs plenty of teams that will take a chance

He might not, but he isn't going to be able to play CB anymore based on the last two seasons.

 

[pittdan77]

He does have the fight on the Southside going for him, so that's a positive to get him onto the Steelers. However, playing for Pitt might be the deal breaker .

Actually, he should take a hometown discount just to beat the rap.

 

[upj87]

there are actually quite a few players not in HOF that have been 4 or more all pros.. I think he gets in but it will take a few years. doesn't have that many INTs..

actually about 80% in or sure things within the next year or so.. percentage higher is you exclude current 4 time players...most did not have islands named after them and were not considered, bar none, the absolute best at their postions over a four or five year time span.

 

[Swervin27]

actually about 80% in or sure things within the next year or so....most did not have islands named after them and were not considered, bar none, the absolute best at their postions over a four or five year time span.

I agree, no CB with an island named after him has never not made the hall of fame. I hope he makes it, I was a revis fan when he was at pitt.. we have all gotten into our little "beer muscle fights" in south side, only difference is he won his..

 

[BradlyPitt]

he is going to the hall of fame no doubt

what corner over the last 10 years was better or as good just as long as him?

he's one of the few corners to have a nickname, the lack of interceptions is a good thing because that means teams didn't throw his way

 

[BradlyPitt]

It is going to be tough. He only played for a decade. For many of those years he was one of the best at his position. He essentially missed an entire year to injury. The past two years he has been a liability. There are 14 (primarily) CBs in the NFL HoF and 10 of them played 14+ years. Only 1 played fewer seasons than Revis. All of them have far, far more INTs. The next lowest would have 18 more than Revis. Plus, in comparison with other top contemporary CBs (Woodson, Law, Bailey, Barber) Revis would fall way short just the same, so even though interceptions have certainly taken a precipitous drop recently, guys who will be getting in soon, and may still be on the ballot with him, will have a couple numbers that really stand out in comparison.

I think it will be tough and he certainly has a case, but the folks voting for the HoF generally really appreciate longevity and counting stats, plus his last impressions will be really bad. None of that is good for him.

i would love to see a legit argument for law or barber being better

the pats plugged in troy brown a wide receiver when law got hurt, they still won the super bowl

 

[PittPanther44]

Not talking college but NFL when I ask this:

Remember that great play Revis made? Or that big game he sealed?

Neither do I. A great player with almost no signature or splash plays. I get it - they throw the other way. But that might be my argument against HOF.

Still, wouldn't mind the Steelers taking a flyer. He is only like 31, right? Might have a resurgence playing for his hometown team again, esp in like a nickel or safety role

 

[BradlyPitt]

Not talking college but NFL when I ask this:

Remember that great play Revis made? Or that big game he sealed?

Neither do I. A great player with almost no signature or splash plays. I get it - they throw the other way. But that might be my argument against HOF.

Still, wouldn't mind the Steelers taking a flyer. He is only like 31, right? Might have a resurgence playing for his hometown team again, esp in like a nickel or safety role

that would be a very weak argument

hall of fame is based on CAREER not a "signature" play or game, if it was larry brown would be in the hall or dexter jackson, both were defensive backs that won super bowl mvp

what is charles woodson's signature play? i just think of him putting that rose in his mouth in college

 

[Jpripper88]

i would love to see a legit argument for law or barber being better

the pats plugged in troy brown a wide receiver when law got hurt, they still won the super bowl

I don't think there is one that at their peak they were better. Were they better overall or more valuable because they were good players for much longer (if Revis retires or fails to be impactful at S) and had a huge advantage in counting stats, especially in forcing turnovers and sacks for Barber? I think some would.

that would be a very weak argument

hall of fame is based on CAREER not a "signature" play or game, if it was larry brown would be in the hall or dexter jackson, both were defensive backs that won super bowl mvp

what is charles woodson's signature play? i just think of him putting that rose in his mouth in college

Charles Woodson has forced 3X more turnovers, 10X more sacks, and 5.5X more TDs (literally an NFL record, along with being the only player with 50 INTs and 20 sacks) scored than Revis, so I think a lot of people would disagree with you that he doesn't have big plays that some would think were signature plays or games, in addition to much better statistics. I mean, an argument can be made Woodson is the best defensive player of all time. That certainly cannot be made for Revis, even if you think he is definitely a HoFer.

But you definitely hurt your argument by capitalizing "CAREER" arguing for Revis, because his "CAREER" is pretty darn short compared to many of his contemporaries AND they have the better statistics.

 

[Pittx9]

Cornerback stats are extremely overrated. His last year at Pitt Revis didn't do much, but it was clear what a dominant corner he was. I think the coaches estimated opponents threw to the receiver he was covering something like 6 times the entire season! You don't need to rack up interceptions to be an elite shutdown corner.

 

[Swervin27]

Cornerback stats are extremely overrated. His last year at Pitt Revis didn't do much, but it was clear what a dominant corner he was. I think the coaches estimated opponents threw to the receiver he was covering something like 6 times the entire season! You don't need to rack up interceptions to be an elite shutdown corner.

no one is arguing whether he was elite or not, they are debating whether he'll be inducted into HOF.. right or wrong, the HOF values stats and longevity. I think he gets in, eventually. just don't see it being the sure thing, first ballot deal.

 

[Pittx9]

no one is arguing whether he was elite or not, they are debating whether he'll be inducted into HOF.. right or wrong, the HOF values stats and longevity. I think he gets in, eventually. just don't see it being the sure thing, first ballot deal.

Agree. I thinks he's in no question. I highly doubt he will be first ballot though. The hall of fame is very inconsistent though. Numerous guys that should be in without hesitation. But look at this year, I mean everybody remembers how great Terrell Davis was. But look at the numbers throughout his entire career. They don't even come close to anyone that should even be considered. So in that case career longevity went right out the window. I mean he's a guy when you hear his name you may think hall of famer, but it's only because of a few very good seasons.

 

[pittdan77]

Actually, a dominant CB won't have many stats because nobody wants to throw at him. You also have to remember that he played for a team that struggled to stop the run and maybe that's the differential to a guy like Rod Woodson. Woodson was valuable because he was a shutdown corner that could play run support. Revis will never be accused of that.

 

[BradlyPitt]

I don't think there is one that at their peak they were better. Were they better overall or more valuable because they were good players for much longer (if Revis retires or fails to be impactful at S) and had a huge advantage in counting stats, especially in forcing turnovers and sacks for Barber? I think some would.


Charles Woodson has forced 3X more turnovers, 10X more sacks, and 5.5X more TDs (literally an NFL record, along with being the only player with 50 INTs and 20 sacks) scored than Revis, so I think a lot of people would disagree with you that he doesn't have big plays that some would think were signature plays or games, in addition to much better statistics. I mean, an argument can be made Woodson is the best defensive player of all time. That certainly cannot be made for Revis, even if you think he is definitely a HoFer.

But you definitely hurt your argument by capitalizing "CAREER" arguing for Revis, because his "CAREER" is pretty darn short compared to many of his contemporaries AND they have the better statistics.

name me the int or sack that people think of when they think of woodson, you said "signature" play i don't think either them have a signature play

i capitalized career because one or two memorable plays doesn't get you into the hall of fame

woodson is nowhere near the best defensive player of all time, nobody would argue that though you could argue he is underrated

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Just talk to a WVU Henry Friend from Aliquippa, says he coming along fine after being injured. Also said, Revis did not hit anyone it was another guy. Moreover, Revis wants to still play Corner and is considering the Steelers. Just talk nothing more.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

More on Revis....Excerpt & Link:
BOSTON (CBS) — Darrelle Revis, the best cornerback of his generation, may be done. If he is not done, then he’s at least very firmly in a new era of his career, one where he’ll either be a close-to-average cornerback or perhaps a corner-turned-safety as he enters his mid-30s...............The humorous part, if you’re one who can enjoy a laugh or two at the Jets’ expense, is this: the Jets paid Revis over $96 million in his career, and that’s without having him on the roster for what is generally considered the prime of a player’s career. They had him as a rising star, and they had him as an older (occasionally washed-up-looking) veteran, and they paid a premium for it. In the interim, the Buccaneers paid him $16 million to essentially use the 2013 season to rehab on the field. And the Patriots paid him just $12 million for 2014, which turned out to be Revis’ final season as a true No. 1 cornerback..................
Here’s a look at how that broke down by year in terms of cash earned (numbers from Spotrac):
JETS
2007: $5.32 million
2008: $5.08 million
2009: $6.26 million
2010: $8.04 million
2011: $25 million
2012: $7.5 million
BUCCANEERS
2013: $16 million
PATRIOTS
2014: $12 million
JETS
2015: $16.01 million
2016: $17 million
2017: $6 million
.................
LINK:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/03/02/one-humorous-fact-regarding-new-york-jets-and-darrelle-revis/

 

[Jpripper88]

name me the int or sack that people think of when they think of woodson, you said "signature" play i don't think either them have a signature play

i capitalized career because one or two memorable plays doesn't get you into the hall of fame

woodson is nowhere near the best defensive player of all time, nobody would argue that though you could argue he is underrated

I actually didn't say that (someone else did), but I was just pointing out he has made many, many big plays and arguably more than any other player or at least DB of all time.

Here is one link of someone making that argument: https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...05b92f5f94b_story.html?utm_term=.c50d23d50553

And I can certainly can understand not agreeing there (I don't think he is, but he certainly could be included in the conversation) if you want to use some more advanced metrics, but of course then you would really, really hurt Revis' argument, too, so that kind of bites the hand that feeds you.