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I know people will come up with 62 + reasons to say no, but I’m not one of them.
Forget saviors. Those are pipe dreams. But getting a coach who can get the program on solid ground again is really what is needed now.
Joe L is a very good coach and probably would not want the job. But to my way of thinking he is a great candidate.
 
Saboteur II said:
I know people will come up with 62 + reasons to say no, but I’m not one of them.
Forget saviors. Those are pipe dreams. But getting a coach who can get the program on solid ground again is really what is needed now.
Joe L is a very good coach and probably would not want the job. But to my way of thinking he is a great candidate.
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Would not want the job? Huh? He's probably making 100K coaching IUP. You think he'd pass on a 7 figure job coaching basketball? That said, he is not on a list of 1000 potential candidates because, similar to Brandin Knight, he has no career ambition. They may be good coaches but you cant stay stuck in a lower role for 10 years and then get a P6 job
 
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Would not want the job? Huh? He's probably making 100K coaching IUP. You think he'd pass on a 7 figure job coaching basketball? That said, he is not on a list of 1000 potential candidates because, similar to Brandin Knight, he has no career ambition. They may be good coaches but you cant stay stuck in a lower role for 10 years and then get a P6 job
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As usual, you don't have a clue.

Joe chose to coach at IUP because his wife and her family are from Indiana. PA. Because of that, he and his wife wanted to raise their children there.

He is not "stuck" there. Joe made the decision to coach there for family reasons. He has no intention of leaving, regardless of the money that could be made elsewhere. He's had plenty of opportunities to go and coach at higher paying schools.

From IUP's website:
"During his time as the head coach of the IUP men’s basketball program, Joe Lombardi has proven to be the most consistent and dominant coach in the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference, and one of the most recognized and respected not only the Atlantic Region, but the entire nation.

In 15 seasons, Lombardi has a 333-102 (.774) overall record with 10 NCAA tournament appearances, five PSAC tournament titles (2010, 2011, 2013, 2019, 2020), two Atlantic Region Championships (2010, 2015) and two Division II National Championship Game appearances (2010, 2015).

He boasts a 204-54 (.791) record in conference games and has won 10 PSAC West regular season titles, including a record five straight on two occasions - 2010-14 and 2016-20. Lombardi has also been the top postseason coach in IUP history with a combined record of 40-17 (.702) in PSAC and NCAA tournament games."

I know Joe's career priorites for a fact because I am a long time friend of the Lombardi family. He is perfectly happy at IUP and extremely proud of the basketball program that he has built and guided there.
 
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Would not want the job? Huh? He's probably making 100K coaching IUP. You think he'd pass on a 7 figure job coaching basketball? That said, he is not on a list of 1000 potential candidates because, similar to Brandin Knight, he has no career ambition. They may be good coaches but you cant stay stuck in a lower role for 10 years and then get a P6 job
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And yet he walked away from Pitt to take that job -
Because you don’t seem to understand, everyone doesn’t chase salary
 
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As usual, you don't havs a clue.

Joe choose to coach at IUP because his wife and her family are from Indiana. PA. Because of that, he and his wife wanted to raise their children there.

He is not "stuck" there. Joe made the decision to coach there for family reasons. He has no intention of leaving, regardless of the money that could be made elsewhere. He's had plenty of opportunities to go and coach at higher paying schools.

From Wikipedia:
"During his time as the head coach of the IUP men’s basketball program, Joe Lombardi has proven to be the most consistent and dominant coach in the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference, and one of the most recognized and respected not only the Atlantic Region, but the entire nation.

In 15 seasons, Lombardi has a 333-102 (.774) overall record with 10 NCAA tournament appearances, five PSAC tournament titles (2010, 2011, 2013, 2019, 2020), two Atlantic Region Championships (2010, 2015) and two Division II National Championship Game appearances (2010, 2015).

He boasts a 204-54 (.791) record in conference games and has won 10 PSAC West regular season titles, including a record five straight on two occasions - 2010-14 and 2016-20. Lombardi has also been the top postseason coach in IUP history with a combined record of 40-17 (.702) in PSAC and NCAA tournament games."

I know Joe's career priorites for a fact because I am a long time friend of the Lombardi family. He is perfectly happy at IUP and extremely proud of the basketball program that he has built and guided there.
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That’s a great story and and great for him and his family.

Notre Dame once hired a high school football coach so who’s to say he isn’t qualified, but if he was serious about moving up the head coaching ladder you’d think he would have tried to snag a lower D1 job by now.
 
He's certainly better than what we have now, no doubt. But he should stay at IUP for reasons beyond money.
 
PittPharm2002 said:
And yet he walked away from Pitt to take that job -
Because you don’t seem to understand, everyone doesn’t chase salary
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He was probably making 300K at Pitt and took a paycut to be a HC. There is a 0.0000000% chance he would turn down over a million dollar per year pay raise. Indiana, PA may be beautiful but its not that beautiful. Don't be an idiot.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
He was probably making 300K at Pitt and took a paycut to be a HC. There is a 0.0000000% chance he would turn down over a million dollar per year pay raise. Indiana, PA may be beautiful but its not that beautiful. Don't be an idiot.
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Idiot says what?
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
He was probably making 300K at Pitt and took a paycut to be a HC. There is a 0.0000000% chance he would turn down over a million dollar per year pay raise. Indiana, PA may be beautiful but its not that beautiful. Don't be an idiot.
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I understand as you’re clearly unemployable - that you think just money is a driver of decisions.
 
Franb said:
Right, because being a successful coach in the PSAC is equal to being a successful coach in the ACC.
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LOL! Try some reading comprehension courses. I never said what you said. All I said was that he's better than what we have right now and he should stay at IUP for reasons a lot more important than money and basketball.

But typical of a response I'd get on this board. Some Pitt fans are just braindead.
 
PittPharm2002 said:
I understand as you’re clearly unemployable - that you think just money is a driver of decisions.
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Going from 100K/year to $1.5 million/year, no one on Earth is passing that up. No one. He could continue to live in Indiana if he loves it so much and hire a full-time chauffeur to drive hil back and forth for 200K/year. You have no clue what you're talking about. This isnt like a guy making $600K in the MAC.
 
HailToPitt1985 said:
LOL! Try some reading comprehension courses. I never said what you said. All I said was that he's better than what we have right now and he should stay at IUP for reasons a lot more important than money and basketball.

But typical of a response I'd get on this board. Some Pitt fans are just braindead.
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How is it that he is better than what we have, then, if you are not looking at his record at IUP?
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Going from 100K/year to $1.5 million/year, no one on Earth is passing that up. No one. He could continue to live in Indiana if he loves it so much and hire a full-time chauffeur to drive hil back and forth for 200K/year. You have no clue what you're talking about. This isnt like a guy making $600K in the MAC.
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I realize your default assumption is that 100% of people will take a job if you just lob money at them, but believe it or not lots of folks choose jobs for a whole host of reasons.
 
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I realize your default assumption is that 100% of people will take a job if you just lob money at them, but believe it or not lots of folks choose jobs for a whole host of reasons.
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I know people may not leave a 100K/year job for a 200K/year job but nobody is staying at a 100K/year job for a $1.5 million/year job.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
I know people may not leave a 100K/year job for a 200K/year job but nobody is staying at a 100K/year job for a $1.5 million/year job.
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Dude, shut up!

You don't know his reasons for staying at IUP or what happened before when he was an assistant coach on the P6 level that resulted in his change of priorities and be willing to coach on a lower level (where he has been outstanding).
 
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How is it that he is better than what we have, then, if you are not looking at his record at IUP?
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Very simple. There is more to life than money and coaching basketball. His family comes first, as it should. He has his priorities in order. Besides, why would he want to come to a program that has been torn down by the previous 2 coaches? He doesn't need the aggravation.
 
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HailToPitt1985 said:
Very simple. There is more to life than money and coaching basketball. His family comes first, as it should. He has his priorities in order. Besides, why would he want to come to a program that has been torn down by the previous 2 coaches? He doesn't need the aggravation.
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He isn't passing up $6 million for 4 years or so to make $400K coaching IUP. Don't be stupid. That is life-changing. Right now, he is a regular middle-class dude and with 1 contract would achieve generational wealth to pass on to his heirs. No, he won't become Elon Musk coaching at Pitt but the kind of coin he'd make here would completely change the family's financial future. I cant believe we are even debating this.
 
HailToPitt1985 said:
Very simple. There is more to life than money and coaching basketball. His family comes first, as it should. He has his priorities in order. Besides, why would he want to come to a program that has been torn down by the previous 2 coaches? He doesn't need the aggravation.
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Sure, but how does that make him "better than what we have now," which is what I am questioning? You claimed he is a better coach than what we have now - is that not what you said?
 
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Sure, but how does that make him "better than what we have now," which is what I am questioning? You claimed he is a better coach than what we have now - is that not what you said?
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That's what I said. He is better than Capel. His record, his accomplishments as a head coach, his priorities. I doubt any sane person would disagree with that. Capel is pretty bad. No recruiting, poor coach.
 
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HailToPitt1985 said:
That's what I said. He is better than Capel. His record, his accomplishments as a head coach, his priorities. I doubt any sane person would disagree with that. Capel is pretty bad. No recruiting, poor coach.
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So you are saying that a coach's record in the PSAC is comparable to a coach's record in the ACC - that is the only way you can compare coaches, by their records. Unless you have another metric.
 
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Saboteur II said:
I know people will come up with 62 + reasons to say no, but I’m not one of them.
Forget saviors. Those are pipe dreams. But getting a coach who can get the program on solid ground again is really what is needed now.
Joe L is a very good coach and probably would not want the job. But to my way of thinking he is a great candidate.
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Hi Mrs. Lombardi!
 
HailToPitt1985 said:
That's what I said. He is better than Capel. His record, his accomplishments as a head coach, his priorities. I doubt any sane person would disagree with that. Capel is pretty bad. No recruiting, poor coach.
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If you think coaching at IUP is anything near what it's like to coach in the ACC then it is you who are insane. Record does not matter. Just take one aspect. Coaching against Coach K, Beiheim, Brey, etc, etc, etc, against who ever the hell coaches Pitt J town, Clarion, Edinboro, Slippery Rock, etc, etc, etc. Just think for one minute what you are saying!
 
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FrogmoreZeke said:
If you think coaching at IUP is anything near what it's like to coach in the ACC then it is you who are insane. Record does not matter. Just take one aspect. Coaching against Coach K, Beiheim, Brey, etc, etc, etc, against who ever the hell coaches Pitt J town, Clarion, Edinboro, Slippery Rock, etc, etc, etc. Just think for one minute what you are saying!
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I understand all of that! I'm not in any way saying he would be successful at Pitt, and probably wouldn't given the circumstances we have now. But he's better than Capel. And I was making comment more on his priorities and having his head on straight as opposed to taking a boat load of money and possibly failing while taking his family away from where they want to be. To me it's a no brainer where he should be, and it isn't Pitt.

Besides, he was already a successful coach at Pitt and he doesn't want to come back to this trainwreck.
 
Franb said:
So you are saying that a coach's record in the PSAC is comparable to a coach's record in the ACC - that is the only way you can compare coaches, by their records. Unless you have another metric.
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You can also compare coaches by their coaching philosophies, recruiting records, ethics, demeanor with students. And when a P6 school gets a coach from a conference such as the PSAC or another league other than a P6 league, are you saying that shouldn't happen? There are a lot of very good coaches in those leagues, some are better than many P6 coaches. We should know that now.
 
JD1976 said:
That’s a great story and and great for him and his family.

Notre Dame once hired a high school football coach so who’s to say he isn’t qualified, but if he was serious about moving up the head coaching ladder you’d think he would have tried to snag a lower D1 job by now.
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It’s not a high school job. It’s more skin to what Ben Howlend was doing before he put Pitt hoops back on the map.
 
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If you think coaching at IUP is anything near what it's like to coach in the ACC then it is you who are insane. Record does not matter. Just take one aspect. Coaching against Coach K, Beiheim, Brey, etc, etc, etc, against who ever the hell coaches Pitt J town, Clarion, Edinboro, Slippery Rock, etc, etc, etc. Just think for one minute what you are saying!
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Ok. I’m insane.
I don’t think coaching is any different but I do think that recruiting is.
As far as that goes our Duke guy has failed about as badly as a person can.
Pitt hoops is bottom of the barrel gents.
 
Saboteur II said:
I know people will come up with 62 + reasons to say no, but I’m not one of them.
Forget saviors. Those are pipe dreams. But getting a coach who can get the program on solid ground again is really what is needed now.
Joe L is a very good coach and probably would not want the job. But to my way of thinking he is a great candidate.
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This can't be real.
 
Saboteur II said:
I know people will come up with 62 + reasons to say no, but I’m not one of them.
Forget saviors. Those are pipe dreams. But getting a coach who can get the program on solid ground again is really what is needed now.
Joe L is a very good coach and probably would not want the job. But to my way of thinking he is a great candidate.
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I believe our problem is talent more than coaching. Why do we think Lombardi can solve that.
 
Saboteur II said:
Ok. I’m insane.
I don’t think coaching is any different but I do think that recruiting is.
As far as that goes our Duke guy has failed about as badly as a person can.
Pitt hoops is bottom of the barrel gents.
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This is a very good point. Coaching at any level is the same. Recruiting is different. Capel has failed miserably at Pitt to this point and there's nothing on the horizon that indicates he's getting the hang of it. Lombardi couldn't do any worse than Capel in recruiting and probably better. He was, after all, already on the Pitt staff and had already recruited players to Pitt.
 
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Why do we think Lombardi can solve that.
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1. There is a ton of talent out there, we know this by the myriad of close games in OOC games verses teams in lesser conferences every year.

2. JL will recruit players whose skills will play into a well developed system so that the whole exceeds the sum of the parts. Players benefit from accentuating their strengths within the system. Proof of this can be found in his sustained success. He sees what he has and kinda molds the team that way with an eye on recruiting within the next group players who can take away what are expected deficiences(sp).

JC and KS fall within the more standard idea of allowing players to just play, nothing wrong with this, many D1 coaches work it out that way, but times are tough all around , you have to have a better top three than the other team or you are in trouble with this approach. Unless you recruit above the "average line" its tough to get to 10-10. IMO
 
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