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was on Madden the other day and now on NFL Network , A Football Life.
Really a great watch , from the times of the 60s , the AFL -NFL , and Joe just being Joe from Beaver Falls and going south to Alabama and then to New York .

If you have anything to add... would be cool.
 
was on Madden the other day and now on NFL Network , A Football Life.
Really a great watch , from the times of the 60s , the AFL -NFL , and Joe just being Joe from Beaver Falls and going south to Alabama and then to New York .

If you have anything to add... would be cool.

I heard the tail end of the interview... found his way with the man above.
 
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Which man above? The guy who lives one floor up?
was on Madden the other day and now on NFL Network , A Football Life.
Really a great watch , from the times of the 60s , the AFL -NFL , and Joe just being Joe from Beaver Falls and going south to Alabama and then to New York .

If you have anything to add... would be cool.
I worked with a steel company in Beaver Falls in the 70's. One comment I've always remembered was from my manager, who was also from Pittsburgh. He said he was at a cocktail party when he first started working there in the 60's and the subject of Joe Namath came up, and someone said he was going to Alabama to play football. One woman said - "thank goodness, now I know my hubcaps will be safe." Many people feel there felt his high school coach, Larry Bruno, was instrumental in getting him to Alabama.

Apparently, Joe had a reputation as far back as high school. And everyone I talked to in Beaver Falls would claim that Joe was their cousin. He could not have had that many cousins. But I will say he returned to BF frequently to see his divorced parents, and was never ashamed to say he came from a steel town in western Pa.

On another note, I can contrast that with my experience at Indiana State for one year --- Indiana, PA. That was the home of famed actor Jimmy Stewart. There were constant reminders that Stewart was born in Indiana, PA and the residents were proud of it. One day I went to a local barber for a haircut, and the barber asked where I was from, and I said Pittsburgh. He said "did you know this was the birthplace of actor Jimmy Stewart?" I said yes, I'd heard that a few times. He said "yes, he moved to Hollywood and became a famous actor. He never returned here again. When he sees his parents, he meets them at the Pittsburgh Airport." That was the candid part of a famous son I hadn't heard before.

Not the case with Joe Namath, and I have always respected Namath for remembering his birthplace and actually taking pride in it.
 
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I worked with a steel company in Beaver Falls in the 70's. One comment I've always remembered was from my manager, who was also from Pittsburgh. He said he was at a cocktail party when he first started working there in the 60's and the subject of Joe Namath came up, and someone said he was going to Alabama to play football. One woman said - "thank goodness, now I know my hubcaps will be safe." Many people feel there felt his high school coach, Larry Bruno, was instrumental in getting him to Alabama.

Apparently, Joe had a reputation as far back as high school. And everyone I talked to in Beaver Falls would claim that Joe was their cousin. He could not have had that many cousins. But I will say he returned to BF frequently to see his divorced parents, and was never ashamed to say he came from a steel town in western Pa.

On another note, I can contrast that with my experience at Indiana State for one year --- Indiana, PA. That was the home of famed actor Jimmy Stewart. There were constant reminders that Stewart was born in Indiana, PA and the residents were proud of it. One day I went to a local barber for a haircut, and the barber asked where I was from, and I said Pittsburgh. He said "did you know this was the birthplace of actor Jimmy Stewart?" I said yes, I'd heard that a few times. He said "yes, he moved to Hollywood and became a famous actor. He never returned here again. When he sees his parents, he meets them at the Pittsburgh Airport." That was the candid part of a famous son I hadn't heard before.

Not the case with Joe Namath, and I have always respected Namath for remembering his birthplace and actually taking pride in it.
Well..that barber is FOS...Mr. Stewart often traveled back to Indiana to visit family..including his aunts/childhood friends and of course his parents even after their deaths!! Mr. Stewart always spoke very warmly of his hometown to his Hollywood friends...maybe the barber was offended that Mr Stewart ( father) and his son didn't select his shop when Jimmie was in town!! HTP/Forever!!!
 
I worked with a steel company in Beaver Falls in the 70's. One comment I've always remembered was from my manager, who was also from Pittsburgh. He said he was at a cocktail party when he first started working there in the 60's and the subject of Joe Namath came up, and someone said he was going to Alabama to play football. One woman said - "thank goodness, now I know my hubcaps will be safe." Many people feel there felt his high school coach, Larry Bruno, was instrumental in getting him to Alabama.

Apparently, Joe had a reputation as far back as high school. And everyone I talked to in Beaver Falls would claim that Joe was their cousin. He could not have had that many cousins. But I will say he returned to BF frequently to see his divorced parents, and was never ashamed to say he came from a steel town in western Pa.

On another note, I can contrast that with my experience at Indiana State for one year --- Indiana, PA. That was the home of famed actor Jimmy Stewart. There were constant reminders that Stewart was born in Indiana, PA and the residents were proud of it. One day I went to a local barber for a haircut, and the barber asked where I was from, and I said Pittsburgh. He said "did you know this was the birthplace of actor Jimmy Stewart?" I said yes, I'd heard that a few times. He said "yes, he moved to Hollywood and became a famous actor. He never returned here again. When he sees his parents, he meets them at the Pittsburgh Airport." That was the candid part of a famous son I hadn't heard before.

Not the case with Joe Namath, and I have always respected Namath for remembering his birthplace and actually taking pride in it.


I can appreciate local folks saying Larry bruno got Namath to Alabama,

But according to Namath himself it was Babe Parilli and George Blanda.....two QBS from our area, who played for Bear Bryant at Kentucky that pushed Bryant to take Namath at Bama.
 
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I can appreciate local folks saying Larry bruno got Namath to Alabama,

But according to Namath himself it was Babe Parilli and George Blanda.....two QBS from our area, who played for Bear Bryant at Kentucky that pushed Bryant to take Namath at Bama.
Namath was going to go to Maryland but couldn't get admitted. The Maryland coach had a friend at Bama and he recommended Joe to them . He didn't want to play against him so he sent him south. The Bear sent Howard Schnellenberger north and told him don't come back without him. Of course Blanda and Parilli vouched for Bryant.

Get the book "Namath". Great read. In fact I have read it twice.

Broadway Joe was a real character.
 
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Namath was going to go to Maryland but couldn't get admitted. The Maryland coach had a friend at Bama and he recommended Joe to them . He didn't want to play against him so he sent him south. The Bear sent Howard Schnellenberger north and told him don't come back without him. Of course Blanda and Parilli vouched for Bryant.

Get the book "Namath". Great read. In fact I have read it twice.

Broadway Joe was a real character.
This was also the era where Pitt and the other Eastern Independents limited the amount of scholarships they gave out.
 
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This was also the era where Pitt and the other Eastern Independents limited the amount of scholarships they gave out.

Of course, if he couldn't get past Maryland's admissions office, he wasn't getting past Pitt's either back then.
 
I worked with a steel company in Beaver Falls in the 70's. One comment I've always remembered was from my manager, who was also from Pittsburgh. He said he was at a cocktail party when he first started working there in the 60's and the subject of Joe Namath came up, and someone said he was going to Alabama to play football. One woman said - "thank goodness, now I know my hubcaps will be safe." Many people feel there felt his high school coach, Larry Bruno, was instrumental in getting him to Alabama.

Apparently, Joe had a reputation as far back as high school. And everyone I talked to in Beaver Falls would claim that Joe was their cousin. He could not have had that many cousins. But I will say he returned to BF frequently to see his divorced parents, and was never ashamed to say he came from a steel town in western Pa.

On another note, I can contrast that with my experience at Indiana State for one year --- Indiana, PA. That was the home of famed actor Jimmy Stewart. There were constant reminders that Stewart was born in Indiana, PA and the residents were proud of it. One day I went to a local barber for a haircut, and the barber asked where I was from, and I said Pittsburgh. He said "did you know this was the birthplace of actor Jimmy Stewart?" I said yes, I'd heard that a few times. He said "yes, he moved to Hollywood and became a famous actor. He never returned here again. When he sees his parents, he meets them at the Pittsburgh Airport." That was the candid part of a famous son I hadn't heard before.

Not the case with Joe Namath, and I have always respected Namath for remembering his birthplace and actually taking pride in it.
Well..that barber is FOS...Mr. Stewart often traveled back to Indiana to visit family..including his aunts/childhood friends and of course his parents even after their deaths!! Mr. Stewart always spoke very warmly of his hometown to his Hollywood friends...maybe the barber was offended that Mr Stewart ( father) and his son didn't select his shop when Jimmie was in town!! HTP/Forever!!!

"sliberty", I believe you were told that story by a barber in Indiana, Pa. but I totally agree with "TTOWN2" on this one ...... I was born and raised in Indiana, Pa. and that barber was definitely wrong.

Jimmy Stewart often talked publicly about his fondness and love for his hometown of Indiana, Pa. ..... even though he moved to California and made a life for himself there, he often said he still felt that he remained a part of his hometown ...... he didn't visit as often as he would have liked but he did visit reasonably often, less after his parents died ( his mother died in 1953 and his father in 1961) and his siblings moved away ...... there are pictures of Jimmy and his wife on main street in Indiana, Pa. and I can tell you that in the mid 1950's when I was a second grader, he visited our school, gave a little speech and we got to shake his hand and talk to him afterwords ...... he had two really good boyhood friends, in Indiana, Pa., and he communicated with them and visited them in Indiana and they him throughout Jimmy"s life..... to say that he never visited Indiana, Pa. and to act like he never cared about his hometown is a complete fabrication by the barber ..... he was an Indiana, Pa. kid in his heart throughout his life.
 
Namath was going to go to Maryland but couldn't get admitted. The Maryland coach had a friend at Bama and he recommended Joe to them . He didn't want to play against him so he sent him south. The Bear sent Howard Schnellenberger north and told him don't come back without him. Of course Blanda and Parilli vouched for Bryant.

Get the book "Namath". Great read. In fact I have read it twice.

Broadway Joe was a real character.
The other rumor was that Broadway Joe was one hell of a pool hustler and spent most of his days in the pool hall before throwing TD”s on Friday. Also heard The Bear sent his private plane to Hershey and immediately after the Big 33 game Broadway Joe was off to Tuscaloosa and the rest as they say is history.
 
The other rumor was that Broadway Joe was one hell of a pool hustler and spent most of his days in the pool hall before throwing TD”s on Friday. Also heard The Bear sent his private plane to Hershey and immediately after the Big 33 game Broadway Joe was off to Tuscaloosa and the rest as they say is history.
The part about the Bear and the Jet is not true.
 
Most overrated quarterback in the Hall of Fame.

Definitely way up there. During those bump and run days QB’s INT to TD ratios were much worse than today, but Namath’s 173-220 really stands out.
 
If you want an appropriate comparison with Namath and Beaver Falls, it would be Joe Montana and Monongahela. I don’t know anyone from there who has a good word to say about him.

I could be totally wrong, but I think he has only been back 1 time in 30 years and that was when they were naming the stadium after him.
 
I could be totally wrong, but I think he has only been back 1 time in 30 years and that was when they were naming the stadium after him.
I believe he moved his parents out to the west coast to be with him.
 
Of course, if he couldn't get past Maryland's admissions office, he wasn't getting past Pitt's either back then.
Pitt screwed up again! The hell with grades and academics, that's just for students, not the pro athletes.
 
Definitely way up there. During those bump and run days QB’s INT to TD ratios were much worse than today, but Namath’s 173-220 really stands out.
He's not in the Hall of Fame just for stats or game performance, it's mostly because he was an icon, he did it his way, he ''guaranteed the win'', he fought the NFL, be beat "crew cut Johnny" THE ESTABLISHMENT, wore the fur coat, etc., he fought the stereotype of an athlete, he banged all the chicks. And yeah, he had a great arm, was the first guy to throw for 4000+ yards in a season. mainly, he was just a symbol of the '60s, like The Beatles, or Jimmy Hendrix, or Vietnam, or JFK, Super Bowl III, is probably the most iconic upset in sports history. There are probably 20 QBs better than him not in the Hall of Fame, but he's there for being bigger than the game.
 
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When the high school renamed the stadium, Montana actually asked for an “appearance fee” to come for the naming ceremony. Didn’t get it and came anyway.

He also hired a speech teacher to help him lose his Western PA accent. Told Dan Marino he would never get any commercial or TV work unless Marino did the same thing. Marino never did. Who have you seen more of in commercials, movies and TV?
 
When the high school renamed the stadium, Montana actually asked for an “appearance fee” to come for the naming ceremony. Didn’t get it and came anyway.

He also hired a speech teacher to help him lose his Western PA accent. Told Dan Marino he would never get any commercial or TV work unless Marino did the same thing. Marino never did. Who have you seen more of in commercials, movies and TV?
I'd pay to see the tapes of the speech lessons more than i'd ever pay for whatever crap product he was trying to get the commercial for...

Instructor: "How now brown cow"
Joe: "haw naw brahn caw"

Instructor: "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain"
Joe: "Nahhhh, it dont. My ma sez it always falls in Tertle Crick n'at"
 
If you want an appropriate comparison with Namath and Beaver Falls, it would be Joe Montana and Monongahela. I don’t know anyone from there who has a good word to say about him.
I have some friends from the Mon Valley that say otherwise Mike. Last time Montana came in he signed over 1500 items for free. I witnessed this first hand and have pics of the hotel banquet room with JM signing the items. I dont know if I've ever heard of Marino doing this. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. I'm even a die hard Pitt fan.
 
With Montana, many of the folks in the valley can't stand him because they see him as a snob, especially his peers. Recently, he seems to be coming back on occasion to clean up his rep and younger folks aren't as pissed at him.

As for Namath, his first 4-5 seasons were incredible. He was better out of the gate then anyone in history to that point and being in NY and his personality as well as the huge SB win iced it for him. He is a definite HoFer. Unfortunately, after being crippled by injuries, he really struggled from that point on. If you think he isn't worthy, neither is Earl Campbell and many others. It's a logical argument but a little ignorant on the part of folks who probably never watched him and are judging him by modern standards.
 
As for Namath, his first 4-5 seasons were incredible. He was better out of the gate then anyone in history to that point


That is, quite frankly, absurd. In his first four seasons Namath completed more than half of his passes once. He threw 78 tds, which was very good, and 87 interceptions, which is historically awful. I know there are lots of problems with the NFL's QB rating, but even using it for broad strokes Namath's first four seasons were 68.7, 62.6, 73.8 and 72.1. Just to put that into "better than anyone in history to that point" context, Johnny Unitas threw 84 tds and 48 interceptions with QB ratings of 74, 88, 90 and 92 in his first four seasons.

One of those performances is better than the other. By a huge margin. And it's not Namath's.
 
Otto Graham’s first 4-5 seasons way, way better than Namath’s as well.

There are a lot of others but Graham was the first that popped into my head.
 
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