Joe Starkey Trashes HCPN
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I have liked Starkey but its a bad article. Narduzzi has been here for 1.5 years and has been able recruit for approximately 1.5 recruiting cycles. Very few of the players on the field are his guys. He needs 3+ years to start making real headway.
Also like that he even states in the article that Narduzzi deserves more time "in the big picture". Then what is the point of the damn article aside from the normal PG media bashing? Did Starkey lose his objectivity when he got hired by that rag?
You poor thing. This election must really be driving you insane.
Name one factual inaccuracy in that piece. Give you a hint: There aren't any. This D couldn't stop 11 posters from this board, and half of them are old and the other half are impaired in some way.
Name one factual inaccuracy in that piece. Give you a hint: There aren't any. This D couldn't stop 11 posters from this board, and half of them are old and the other half are impaired in some way.
It's a spot on article. Get a clue.
His recruiting is worse than Rutgers, guy been on the job a year less, more EXCUSES from Pitt sheep
That was so true and funny, I spit out my drink. Lol. If this experiment doesn't work, Pitt needs to decided what it wants to be. If it wants to be a big boy , then it has to go out an get a proven winner , a head coach with a good track record. Not a OC or DC with a flip of a coin on Pitts dime
Trashing would be what Ron Cook does.
"After a season and a half its evident Pat Narduzzi stinks and should be fired immediately...
(more reactionary nonsense summarized in shittily written sentences)
(Paterno reference).
(Self-loathing)."
"After a season and a half its evident Pat Narduzzi stinks and should be fired immediately...
(more reactionary nonsense summarized in shittily written sentences)
(Paterno reference).
(Self-loathing)."
Starkey that darn nitter, he needs to be boycotted, we are awesome , that idiot can't see that???????
I found it fair and have no problem with it. It is one way to view it, but Narduzzi is rebuilding what Pitt has not had much of in 20 years, and that is Consistent Defense.
Sure, it is now Consistent in giving up big scores in this 8th game but it is stopping the runs too, and the Players are just quick missed flicks away from stopping passes unlike earlier when wide open players were not covered at all. Same with just missing and stopping 3rd downs with a proper wrap around tackle that gave VT that 1st Down by inches.
If Starkey wants to argue that Coach Pat & Staff are not making progress by just looking at the scores, This IS not wrong to do it that way, it is fair criticism.
However, I do see improvements on coverage's and by new players that have to take over for injured one almost every game? There is a world of difference between OKSU versus UNC, Marshall, GT, UVA and VT! The Players are there and just missing batting the ball away. Unlike before, and the proof is in the 6 FGs instead of 5 TDS.
Starkey could view it too another way but chooses not to and that is OK too, but Pitt lost by 7, 1, and 3 points, and won by 3, 16, 3, and 14 in Narduzzi & Staff 2nd Year 21st Game? Starkey is entitle to write it as he sees it, but his view is not the only one and the Coaches are demanding perfection in execution, position tackling, and making no excuses and no Panther Player Quits doing it.
Something no Newspaper Sport Writer can be sure he can do at all, and Coach can easily see Starkey views have no solutions just pure viewing or poor viewing without seeing the Players are learning even it is by losing 3 points? I see improvements when a Team holds a Top 25 ranked Team to more FGs than TDS?
Sure, it is now Consistent in giving up big scores in this 8th game but it is stopping the runs too, and the Players are just quick missed flicks away from stopping passes unlike earlier when wide open players were not covered at all. Same with just missing and stopping 3rd downs with a proper wrap around tackle that gave VT that 1st Down by inches.
If Starkey wants to argue that Coach Pat & Staff are not making progress by just looking at the scores, This IS not wrong to do it that way, it is fair criticism.
However, I do see improvements on coverage's and by new players that have to take over for injured one almost every game? There is a world of difference between OKSU versus UNC, Marshall, GT, UVA and VT! The Players are there and just missing batting the ball away. Unlike before, and the proof is in the 6 FGs instead of 5 TDS.
Starkey could view it too another way but chooses not to and that is OK too, but Pitt lost by 7, 1, and 3 points, and won by 3, 16, 3, and 14 in Narduzzi & Staff 2nd Year 21st Game? Starkey is entitle to write it as he sees it, but his view is not the only one and the Coaches are demanding perfection in execution, position tackling, and making no excuses and no Panther Player Quits doing it.
Something no Newspaper Sport Writer can be sure he can do at all, and Coach can easily see Starkey views have no solutions just pure viewing or poor viewing without seeing the Players are learning even it is by losing 3 points? I see improvements when a Team holds a Top 25 ranked Team to more FGs than TDS?
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You can claim the D sucks, no doubt. But can't the media wait more than 1.5 seasons before they start ripping the coach?
Starkey stated facts. This Pitt team is an embarrassment on defense, especially pass defense. If we have any chance of winning ANY game, we have to score at least 40 points. And that only gives us a chance of winning. All of our next opponents, including Duke and Syracuse, are going to torch our non-existent pass defense. We have no easy games the rest of the year. 6-6 or 5-7 is a distinct possibility.
As for Barnes declaring the number of season tickets sold, maybe he was lieing. He's been known to do that. Or maybe it's a combination of Pitt fans not caring any longer about this season, and PSU fans buying so many of those season tickets just to see the game at Heinz Field this year. In my view, it's all 3. All of those factors are in play now.
The crowds for the Duke and Syracuse games will make the crowd for the VT game seem like a full stadium. If we sold 55,000 season tickets or whatever number Barnes lied about, 3/4 of them won't be at the next 2 home games. If we lose to Miami and Clemson, both close to certainties, what do you think the crowd will be for the Duke game? On a sunny, warm day, it will be 35,000. If the weather sucks, which is a possibility, maybe 30,000. And I'm being generous. Pathetic!
And way to show up for a primetime game against a top 25 opponent, students!! To the ones who did show up, good for you. For the rest who talk a good talk then don't bother to show up, you're a bunch of blowhards. I realize that most Pitt students don't even know Pitt has a football team or don't care. There are more important things in life than a silly football program. But for the students who constantly brag about the great Panther Pitt or Oakland Zoo, my suggestion is to STFU until you can show up for games.
As for Barnes declaring the number of season tickets sold, maybe he was lieing. He's been known to do that. Or maybe it's a combination of Pitt fans not caring any longer about this season, and PSU fans buying so many of those season tickets just to see the game at Heinz Field this year. In my view, it's all 3. All of those factors are in play now.
The crowds for the Duke and Syracuse games will make the crowd for the VT game seem like a full stadium. If we sold 55,000 season tickets or whatever number Barnes lied about, 3/4 of them won't be at the next 2 home games. If we lose to Miami and Clemson, both close to certainties, what do you think the crowd will be for the Duke game? On a sunny, warm day, it will be 35,000. If the weather sucks, which is a possibility, maybe 30,000. And I'm being generous. Pathetic!
And way to show up for a primetime game against a top 25 opponent, students!! To the ones who did show up, good for you. For the rest who talk a good talk then don't bother to show up, you're a bunch of blowhards. I realize that most Pitt students don't even know Pitt has a football team or don't care. There are more important things in life than a silly football program. But for the students who constantly brag about the great Panther Pitt or Oakland Zoo, my suggestion is to STFU until you can show up for games.
Good point on the time frame , I wish Starkey would address recruiting, cause 1.5 years in and that is worry some
The line judge in the picture after he threw the flag on DJ for being illegally down field asked if he made a bad a call..
that my friends is admission...
Horribly officiated game, our HC is 100% justified.
F' Starkey.. really.
Refs called it bad both ways , end of story. They sucked, we all agree, but they sucked for everyone
To be honest, I thought Mr. Starkey was kind. Narduzzi deserves to be taken behind the woodshed after his performance last night. Pitt should have won that football game. And the responsibility for that loss falls on the head coach....and nobody else.
Not sure if you're a troll or not...but I will give props on a hilarious username.
the refs could call defensive holding on our corners on every play if they felt like it
On this board you will be a HOOPIE or Nitter for speaking the truth , just wait
I see the difference last year and this year now, the Panthers were prepared for every Game Plan and did not quit except in Navy, and so far none in 2016.
Can ND, PSU, WVU, USC, and others say that from 2015-16?
They have been blown away in some games and that includes WVU last year, and avoided it so far this year. But Penn State has been blown away each of the last 5 years in some games? ND Too! Pitt with some key injures and learning a new Defensive System has not given up, they try every game, and don't quit, if others can't see it, that is on them?
This is a vast difference than under Harris, Wannstedt, Graham and Chryst when they were not prepared every game, loss by big blow outs, and inconsistent winning and losing.
If Starkey and some Posters want to look at just scores that is fine, but that is just one factor not many factors that differ from 2015-16 compared to yesterday?
There are empirical observable changes in Attitudes, Game Plans, Techniques, and No Off Field Field Problems, a sense of Team, and Family helping each other....SO WHAT.....they still struggle on Defense, it is improving even if the scores can't show it.
Maybe Miami or Clemson will blow out Pitt but until I see it, only Navy has been great enough to beat he Panthers from play one to sixty?
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When you look in the mirror, do you see a psycho looking back at you? Or do you just leave that to other people that have the misfortune of crossing your path?
You'd probably be far less agitated in life if you saw a specialist - JD's curlies being caught in your throat has to be annoying.
correct but it is a no call... where do draw the line or do you call or not call push offs...
Why is it a no call? Johnson was clearly and obviously three yards down field before the ball was thrown. Oddly enough, ineligible man down field is supposed to be one of the points of emphasis for officials this season. The NCAA has instructed officials to make the call every time and stop allowing leeway like they frequently have in the past. So if the NCAA tells officials to call the rule to the letter of the book and by the letter of the book Johnson was too far past the line of scrimmage then why on earth should it be a no call?
He's been here a year and a half and we lost the last three games by a total of 11 points. What a horrible job he is doing [sarcasm]. Does everyone forget what the 1990's were like?
As a Raiders fan, I have had to put up with a lot of crappy teams. I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight, but they are in a putting the right pieces in place. Give HCPN a chance to do that for crying out loud.
I understand everyone wants to win the conference NOW. But that is unrealistic.
As a Raiders fan, I have had to put up with a lot of crappy teams. I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight, but they are in a putting the right pieces in place. Give HCPN a chance to do that for crying out loud.
I understand everyone wants to win the conference NOW. But that is unrealistic.
Spot on article. Thank god he didnt raise Narduzzi's sideline antics in the 4th. Out of control and embarrassing.
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Good god, does this fanbase suck.
Pitt could have won the UNC, VT, and OKSU Games in that order and could, have lost the GT, PSU, & UVA in that order, the Coaches have done great with Game Plans in all 6 games and add MU & VU too.
There were communication problems on Defense in OKSU & UNC, There were Execution problems in all 6 games too, but Players did improve in GT, UVA and VT on Defense, they were in front, missed some flicks but tackling was improved versus OKSU & UNC?
Sorry, disagree with respect and one can agree to disagree with me!
I like the Players Attitudes and Coaches Game Plans, it does take preparation, technique, and execution on Game Day, and PSU, OKSU, UNC, GT, UVA, & VT Players also were well prepared and know they played a tough Pitt Team in winning or losing.
I saw no Blow Outs did anyone else? This is good coaching not questionable in my view. They are coming up short but they are playing hard with many Players playing too, not just 22?
You are wrong. We could have been called for PI 15-20 times.
Snarky is the typical yinzer fan, if you're not a champion right away, you're a bum....
Not really. At least not the division. Just a slight tweak to personnel or scheme on defense and we are undefeated. However, Narduzzi openly refuses/refused to do that. As such we now have no chance in the division and will be lucky to go 7-5.
We haven't been blown out, but then again, we haven't played any real powerhouses either.
We were blown out last year by Navy and Notre Dame. So yes, We've had some blowout losses under Narduzzi.
Agree, I saw it in USC yesterday, OSU-PSU last week, I am not one to jump on rfes, let the coaches do it! It is happening in many games not just at Pitt? And Jpriper88 is right it can be called many times or ignored, and it was in my opinion.
Until Pitt Players flick some of them away and keep the eyes on the Ball and tackle with wrap up tackles other Players will keep making those catches and getting that Inch to make first Downs?
If Pitt Players start to do it the Refs won't matter? But New Players were put in all game long as some got hurt. It takes time to adjust to play by play?
"TD_6082, post: 1639939, member: 510"]We haven't been blown out, but then again, we haven't played any real powerhouses either.
Really, ND, UNC, Iowa were not bad last year?
We were blown out last year by Navy and Notre Dame. So yes, We've had some blowout losses under Narduzzi.
I did not see a blow out by ND, Pitt came back, made it closer, but of course you did not count UNC and Iowa last year having 10+ Wins last year either as Powerhouses?
Did Pitt lose to OSU & MSU badly last year and Michigan this year by huge scores before Half Time like PSU?
Did WVU not get beat badly by a Texas Team in 2014, or TCU and Baylor by 30+ points or more in 2015?
Did ND lose 55-31 to ASU or USC 49-13 IN 2014?
Did USC drop to Oregon 48-28 or 41-22 to Stanford in 2015?
Really, ND, UNC, Iowa were not bad last year?
We were blown out last year by Navy and Notre Dame. So yes, We've had some blowout losses under Narduzzi.
I did not see a blow out by ND, Pitt came back, made it closer, but of course you did not count UNC and Iowa last year having 10+ Wins last year either as Powerhouses?
Did Pitt lose to OSU & MSU badly last year and Michigan this year by huge scores before Half Time like PSU?
Did WVU not get beat badly by a Texas Team in 2014, or TCU and Baylor by 30+ points or more in 2015?
Did ND lose 55-31 to ASU or USC 49-13 IN 2014?
Did USC drop to Oregon 48-28 or 41-22 to Stanford in 2015?
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