Last year for Independance Bowl

[TIGER-PAUL]

But Compass bowl back!

Brett McMurphy‏Verified account@Brett_McMurphy 5h5 hours ago

ACC cuts ties w/@IndyBowl in new 2020-25 bowl cycle, so Pac-12 may not commit to @IndyBowl w/out a Power 5 opponent, sources told @Stadium.
Other ACC changes include @GasparillaBowl, @Birmingham_Bowl & @FRBowl sharing ACC’s last spot

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

http://theacc.com/news/2019/7/11/football-acc-announces-bowl-agreements-for-2020-25.aspx

GREENSBORO, N.C. (theACC.com) – The Atlantic Coast Conference on Thursday announced a new six-year bowl lineup, beginning in 2020, which includes the addition of the San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl and the newly created bowl game in Boston. The lineup features bowl games across the country with outstanding matchups in Alabama, California, Florida, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina and Texas.

The bowl agreements are in addition to the College Football Playoff, which has featured an ACC team every year since it began in 2014. An ACC team will also compete annually in the Capital One Orange Bowl in years it is not hosting a CFP semifinal game. The Capital One Orange Bowl has been ‘Home of the ACC’ since 2007.

The ACC has reached agreements through 2025 with the Belk Bowl, Camping World Bowl, Hyundai Sun Bowl, Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman, New Era Pinstripe Bowl, San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl, TaxSlayer Gator Bowl and the new game in Boston, which will be named later this fall. The league will also send a team to either the Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl, Birmingham Bowl or SERVPRO First Responder Bowl on an annual basis.

Additionally, the ACC will send a team to the Outback Bowl if the opponent in the Orange Bowl is from the Big Ten.

“We are proud to partner with this exceptional collection of bowls for the 2020-25 seasons,” said ACC Commissioner John Swofford. “We have enjoyed the long-standing relationships and look forward to working with those that are new to our lineup. The partnerships provide our 15-member league premier matchups, enhanced financials and attractive destinations.”

ACC Bowls, 2020-2025

• Capital One Orange Bowl (Miami Gardens, Florida)

The ACC and its bowl partners will make team selections based on several factors, including geographic proximity, avoiding repeat appearances and matchups, and regular-season won-loss records.

• Belk Bowl (Charlotte, North Carolina)
• Camping World Bowl (Orlando, Florida)
• Hyundai Sun Bowl (El Paso, Texas)
• Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman (Annapolis, Maryland)
• New Era Pinstripe Bowl (New York City)
• Outback Bowl (Tampa, Florida) – if the ACC’s opponent in the Capital One Orange Bowl is from the Big Ten
• San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl (San Diego, California)
• TaxSlayer Gator Bowl (Jacksonville, Florida)
• Bowl game (Boston, Massachusetts) – managed by ESPN Events and Fenway Sports Management

ESPN Events and the following bowls will collaborate on the selection of one ACC team.

• Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl (Tampa, Florida)
• Birmingham Bowl (Birmingham, Alabama)
• SERVPRO First Responder Bowl (Dallas, Texas)

In all, the ACC will annually have 10 guaranteed bowl berths in 2020-25.

 

[joefromlancaster]

Have the dates been finalized on these bowls?

 

[Panther Parrothead]

Let BC go to the bowl that will be in Boston. I don't see any appeal in sitting outside to watch a football game in New England in the winter.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'd like the ACC to get the Myrtle Beach and Bahamas Bowls for its crappy bowl games. I'd be much more likely to go there than Birmingham.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

No mention of 'tiers' yet.

 

[Burgh15]

No mention of 'tiers' yet.

I read the tier system is gone.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I don’t think the tier system is gone, but it will be modified. However, you can’t just take it out altogether because that will just lead to a bunch of ridiculous decisions.

Honestly, I like this bowl lineup better than what we had. I’m not crazy about Birmingham, obviously. However, that’s not even an every year thing. The rest of that lineup is decent.

I don’t know how many ACC fans will be flying out to San Diego for the Holiday Bowl, but how many of those people we’re going to Shreveport for the independence Bowl? Hell, how many of those folks are going out to El Paso for the Sun Bowl?

Basically, San Diego replaces Shreveport and Boston replaces Detroit. Those are both upgrades. Now, sitting in Fenway Park in late December to watch a college football game – uh, no thank you. That’s never going to happen for me. However, if I’m being completely honest, I wasn’t driving to Detroit to sit in perfect conditions either.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

I'd like the ACC to get the Myrtle Beach and Bahamas Bowls for its crappy bowl games. I'd be much more likely to go there than Birmingham.

I’d like Pitt to get to a non crappy bowl game. At least once in a while.

 

[pittmeister]

Wow.... I’m glad we still have a shot at the Sun Bowl...

 

[Burgh15]

I don’t think the tier system is gone, but it will be modified. However, you can’t just take it out altogether because that will just lead to a bunch of ridiculous decisions.

They said geography, repeat appearances, matchups, and W-L records will determine the factors. It sounds pretty much the same as before and a tier system should always exist in some form because a better bowl game should get the better team.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

No mention of 'tiers' yet.

That's interesting. I guess the "payout" of the bowl is enough to know what "tier" a bowl is, without naming it as such.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

yeah, perception wise but a little squirrely selection wise. Could leave door open for bigger programs with worse records to jump over. Doesn't matter that much anyway. You could be 10-2 and auto picked to Outback, then your star players don't play.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Why doesn’t that matter much? I think tiers should be strictly followed. Honestly, I think bowl games should be phased out. They have done a lot of harm to the sport’s credibility, IMHO.

If you want to make my head explode, just start talking about how important it is to preserve the tradition of postseason bowl games.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Ah yes, memories....

Memories may be beautiful and yet
What's too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget
So it's the laughter we will remember
Whenever we remember
The way we were
The way we were
The Independence Bowl!!!!

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Why doesn’t that matter much? I think tiers should be strictly followed. Honestly, I think bowl games should be phased out. They have done a lot of harm to the sport’s credibility, IMHO.

If you want to make my head explode, just start talking about how important it is to preserve the tradition of postseason bowl games.

If history is to be preserved, teams should ride to bowl games in trains that stop at each crossroad along the way to warrant having them a month after the season ends.

 

[Burgh15]

Why doesn’t that matter much? I think tiers should be strictly followed. Honestly, I think bowl games should be phased out. They have done a lot of harm to the sport’s credibility, IMHO.

I'd be disappointed if they were phased out. It's another month's worth of football games, particularly over New Year's. The fact that they are meaningless doesn't really bother me because many of them are very entertaining.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Why doesn’t that matter much? I think tiers should be strictly followed. Honestly, I think bowl games should be phased out. They have done a lot of harm to the sport’s credibility, IMHO.

If you want to make my head explode, just start talking about how important it is to preserve the tradition of postseason bowl games.

The ACC has done away with the Tier System.

1. Orange Bowl
2. Outback Bowl (when ACC plays Big Ten in Orange Bowl
3. Everything else.

The ACC will work with the bowls and teams to create the best matchup. I think this is a good thing because the ACC does a pretty good job of strong-arming the bowls into taking teams that don't travel well into deserving bowl games.

By my own ranking, I'd view the bowls as such as a Pitt fan:

1. Outback
2. Gator (NYD, good history and tradition)
3. Whatever they call that Orlando bowl
4. Holiday
5. Pinstripe
6. Belk
7. Fenway
8. Sun Bowl
9. Military Bowl
10. Gasparlilla/Birmingham/First Responders

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

They are able to strong-arm bowls by pointing to their tiered system. They used that as leverage. Without that leverage, that’s definitely not good news for Pitt. We will most likely be playing in Boston or Annapolis every year.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

They are able to strong-arm bowls by pointing to their tiered system. They used that as leverage. Without that leverage, that’s definitely not good news for Pitt. We will most likely be playing in Boston or Annapolis every year.

Agree, but at some point Pitt has to get out of their 6-6 minor bowl world.

 

[Dan1911]

Holiday Bowl...sweet. a chance for left coast Panthers to possibly see our team and not travel multiple time zones

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Wow.... I’m glad we still have a shot at the Sun Bowl...

Sun Bowl 08 PITT vs Oregeon St
Still have my 08 Brut Sunbowl El Paso TX Dec 31shirts.
Purchased 4 and two are still alive.
Mrs Buffett used her 2 Brut Sunbowl shirts to clean the stalls where her two horses are kept.

 

[FordhamIII]

Would love to get a bowl in Florida. Not sure but I think the last one was against George Rodgers.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Would love to get a bowl in Florida. Not sure but I think the last one was against George Rodgers.

The Key West Bowl in mid December??
The Punta Gorda Bowl or Marco Island bowl around the same timeframe!

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Would love to get a bowl in Florida. Not sure but I think the last one was against George Rodgers.

2001 Tangerine bowl against NC St. in Orlando. First bowl game I ever went to.

 

[FordhamIII]

2001

Thanks I forgot about that one.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Agree, but at some point Pitt has to get out of their 6-6 minor bowl world.

Yeah, that’s undeniably true. However, that’s not what I’m talking about.

I’m talking about a year where Pitt goes 8-4 or 9-3 eight — which is unquestionably a good year for most programs — but still gets passed over by more attractive bowls in favor of a 7-5 type team that happens to be located closer to the bowl game in question.

There is no way that could be good for this program.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Yeah, that’s undeniably true. However, that’s not what I’m talking about.

I’m talking about a year where Pitt goes 8-4 or 9-3 eight — which is unquestionably a good year for most programs — but still gets passed over by more attractive bowls in favor of a 7-5 type team that happens to be located closer to the bowl game in question.

There is no way that could be good for this program.

I don't think anything has really changed. Pitt can never play in the Belk due to the many teams within an easy drive and cant play in the Outback, Gator, or Camping World unless we go 10-2. If we win 9 or fewer games, its Pinstripe, Sun, Fenway, or Annapolis. Losing the Music City was a big loss for Pitt because it's not terribly close to other ACC schools and we would have traveled there.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Yeah, but acc didn’t even have Nashville every year. San Diego? I think allotment there usually 7k

 

[MarySki]

Would love to get a bowl in Florida. Not sure but I think the last one was against George Rodgers.

Me thinks it was NC State and Philip Rivers in Orlando. I remember being there