Looeyville

[Sean Miller Fan]

Cant believe they gave Kenny Payne 2 years. Literally the worst coach in major D1 history. In this new era of free agency, you have to be at least mediocre in Year 1 and preferably a tournament team (look at WVU) and by Year 2, you need to make the NCAAT or get close. That's why I dont think Syracuse can give Autry another year but they probably will.

I watched the Pat Kelsey opening presser and a reporter asked him how long the rebuilding would take and he looked at him like he's stupid and said something like he expects to win right now and that he isnt patient. That is the opposite of Kenny Payne, who had a slow methodical 10 year plan.

Huge game on Saturday. Louisville is probably in the NCAAT at the moment and are playing well but we are better. Some of you saying Pitt is going to go 17-3 or 16-4 are going to be wrong though. That's why I posted that this 10 game stretch is important. Its mostly against NCAAT-type teams. Pitt is not good enough to skate through all of those games. We are going to lose some but hopefully not Saturday.

 

[Pitt666]

They don’t have to go 17-3, as only 16 games left. Can go 14-2. Torvik has them favored in 8/9. Torvik is usually right.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

They don’t have to go 17-3, as only 16 games left. Can go 14-2. Torvik has them favored in 8/9. Torvik is usually right.

Torvik only has us favored in 8 or 9 out of 16 games?

 

[snaphook297]

Cant believe they gave Kenny Payne 2 years. Literally the worst coach in major D1 history. In this new era of free agency, you have to be at least mediocre in Year 1 and preferably a tournament team (look at WVU) and by Year 2, you need to make the NCAAT or get close. That's why I dont think Syracuse can give Autry another year but they probably will.

I watched the Pat Kelsey opening presser and a reporter asked him how long the rebuilding would take and he looked at him like he's stupid and said something like he expects to win right now and that he isnt patient. That is the opposite of Kenny Payne, who had a slow methodical 10 year plan.

Huge game on Saturday. Louisville is probably in the NCAAT at the moment and are playing well but we are better. Some of you saying Pitt is going to go 17-3 or 16-4 are going to be wrong though. That's why I posted that this 10 game stretch is important. Its mostly against NCAAT-type teams. Pitt is not good enough to skate through all of those games. We are going to lose some but hopefully not Saturday.

As always SMF. The voice of reason. Even if he refers to himself in the third person .

 

[Pitt666]

Torvik only has us favored in 8 or 9 out of 16 games?

Torvik has them favored in next 8 out of 9. @FSU and @SMU are now toss up. If you shave 3 pts off all of Torvik lines Pitt would still be predicted to go 15-5.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Torvik has them favored in next 8 out of 9. @FSU and @SMU are now toss up. If you shave 3 pts off all of Torvik lines Pitt would still be predicted to go 15-5.

I think we go 9-1 at home and then lose to UNC, Lou, SMU, Wake and then 1 of FSU/ND/NC St on the road in addition to Duke so 13-7.

 

[Pittnerski]

13-7 is pretty bubbly in this new ACC. Just not enough at large bids to go around when B1G will get 10+, SEC 13, metric west will steal a couple they don’t deserve

 

[4Mark_Marty]

13-7 is pretty bubbly in this new ACC. Just not enough at large bids to go around when B1G will get 10+, SEC 13, metric west will steal a couple they don’t deserve

I'd be pretty disapointed with 13-7 quite frankly.

 

[Pittisit4me]

I'd be pretty disapointed with 13-7 quite frankly.

I'm still not sure what we really have here. We have alot of players who can play, but , not sure how well they can play. I will wait until after the Clemson game to make a call on our final record. That said, if you put me on the spot right now, I say our record will be within one game either way of your 13-7 call. It could be better if we get Damian going and GDG to defend better but we have to keep improving each game to reach 15 conference wins.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'd be pretty disapointed with 13-7 quite frankly.

I wouldn't. I like our team but some of you guys overrate them. Rebounding is a problem and defense is also a problem at times. We arent going to waltz through the ACC to go 17-3. I post all the time about how bad it is but its relative. Its not the NEC or Horizon League. Its a step above the A10. We wouldnt go 17-3 in the A10 either.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

We wouldnt go 17-3 in the A10 either.

I agree.

18-2 or 19-1 would be much more likely.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I agree.

18-2 or 19-1 would be much more likely.

You guys really overrate this team. I like this team but our resume is built on WVU being good, by some miracle because they have very little talent, and beating OSU on the road without one of their best players (and without one of our best players). Last year's team was much better but we scheduled better this year. This team is NOT going to dominate the ACC. 13-7, plus or minus a game.

 

[pittjas]

You guys really overrate this team. I like this team but our resume is built on WVU being good, by some miracle because they have very little talent, and beating OSU on the road without one of their best players (and without one of our best players). Last year's team was much better but we scheduled better this year. This team is NOT going to dominate the ACC. 13-7, plus or minus a game.

This year’s team has better wins and not as bad of losses. Seems like that makes them a better team.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

This year’s team has better wins and not as bad of losses. Seems like that makes them a better team.

Some of that is luck. Mizzou wasnt as bad when they beat us and had one of their better players against us, who had a season-ending injury after. Last year's team was very good in my opinion. Final Four good like NC State if they got the right bracket. This year's team isnt near the same level of Duke or the SEC. But we scheduled better so we should get in easily. But we arent going 17-3 or 16-4 like some of you say. We arent a juggernaut and we are going to lose a significant amount of road games.

 

[pittjas]

Some of that is luck. Mizzou wasnt as bad when they beat us and had one of their better players against us, who had a season-ending injury after. Last year's team was very good in my opinion. Final Four good like NC State if they got the right bracket. This year's team isnt near the same level of Duke or the SEC. But we scheduled better so we should get in easily. But we arent going 17-3 or 16-4 like some of you say. We arent a juggernaut and we are going to lose a significant amount of road games.

If they were so good they wouldn’t have been on the bubble!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

If they were so good they wouldn’t have been on the bubble!

Again. Luck. Or lack thereof. They didnt schedule good enough. WVU ended up being really bad. And Missouri wasnt as bad when we played them and had a bad night. Metrics were very good. Our metrics last year may be better than this year despite the Missouri game.

 

[Pittisit4me]

Again. Luck. Or lack thereof. They didnt schedule good enough. WVU ended up being really bad. And Missouri wasnt as bad when we played them and had a bad night. Metrics were very good. Our metrics last year may be better than this year despite the Missouri game.

Agree. Last years team made the biggest improvement of any of Capel's teams. They were 10X the team they were at the end than at the beginning. Ofcourse it was due to Bub and Jaland gaining experience. It's frustrating as hell that we were left out. We absolutely had a team that could have made a deep run with the right draw.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Our metrics last year may be better than this year despite the Missouri game.

Our metrics last year most certainly were not better than this year. We are better in the metrics both offensively and defensively than we were last year.

Which, of course, would be easy for someone to see for themselves. But much better to have an uninformed opinion than an informed one.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Our metrics last year most certainly were not better than this year. We are better in the metrics both offensively and defensively than we were last year.

Which, of course, would be easy for someone to see for themselves. But much better to have an uninformed opinion than an informed one.

I meant by the end of the year.

 

[Atilla Cosby]

If they were so good they wouldn’t have been on the bubble!

Bub and Jalen had to develop. Heck, the whole team had to develop. I'm sure you noticed they finished the last 12-15 games on a big roll.

If you put this year's forwards on last year's team, with how much they've improved, plus Corhen, you'd have a legit squad.

 

[SteelBowl70]

Maybe @Sean Miller Fan can explain this but looking at UL’s resume, I’m hard pressed to understand how their NET and Kenpom metrics are 10-19 below Pitt.

Louisville is 6-5 in Q1/Q2 games (Pitt 3-3). All their losses are Q1. They have beaten WVU by 9 (N), Clemson by 10 (h), UNC by 13 (h), at FSU by 14 , Indiana by 28 (n), at UVA by 20. They lost at UK by only 8 and OK by 5 (n).

They seem to be getting really dinged (unfairly?) for their 3 home Q1 losses and close wins against UTEP and E Kentucky.
Tennessee 22
Miss 23
Duke 11

They seem to have an NCAAT resume at this point. Having said that, they have an easier remaining schedule than Pitt with only 6 Q1/Q2 games (2 vs Pitt) while Pitt has 10. Makes Saturday a big game.

 

[Chairman Moe]

Maybe @Sean Miller Fan can explain this but looking at UL’s resume, I’m hard pressed to understand how their NET and Kenpom metrics are 10-19 below Pitt.

Louisville is 6-5 in Q1/Q2 games (Pitt 3-3). All their losses are Q1. They have beaten WVU by 9 (N), Clemson by 10 (h), UNC by 13 (h), at FSU by 14 , Indiana by 28 (n), at UVA by 20. They lost at UK by only 8 and OK by 5 (n).

They seem to be getting really dinged (unfairly?) for their 3 home Q1 losses and close wins against UTEP and E Kentucky.
Tennessee 22
Miss 23
Duke 11

They seem to have an NCAAT resume at this point. Having said that, they have an easier remaining schedule than Pitt with only 6 Q1/Q2 games (2 vs Pitt) while Pitt has 10. Makes Saturday a big game.

Saturday is a big game regardless. How the team plays after Tuesday's loss will give us a much more defined "look" at how we compare to a team with similar metrics