Look. Nobody is going to hire Miller, and Pitt should not be the exception.

[HailtoPitt]

Some of you dipsticks never learn. Arizona WANTS him gone. His recruiting is shot. He under performs in the Tournament with excellent talent and resources. They were probably hoping Pitt would grab him so they could solve multiple problems at once. This time however, Pitt isn't stupid enough to hire a coach nobody wants to touch. Thank goodness.

And Hurley is likely using Pitt to get a higher offer from UConn. That should be crystal clear by now or else he would have signed.

Also, we aren't going to hire a coach who already said his health problems will not allow him to do his best.

So anyone claiming to have inside info, whether it's "Matt" or anyone else, just shut up.

 

[TD_istheman]

LMAO, whatever

 

[below0w]

I'm not so sure that Arizona would push Miller out, but if he were to leave, they'd be smart to offer Musselman the second that Nevada is eliminated. Musselman + the Martin brothers as grad transfers would be a godsend for that program.

 

[pittbb80]

Its time to stop talking about Miller. All this non sense about his interest in Pitt is simply wishful thinking by Pitt fans. Hes a good coach and would be an OK hire but IMO there are far better candidates for PItt out there.

 

[TD_6082]

Its time to stop talking about Miller. All this non sense about his interest in Pitt is simply wishful thinking by Pitt fans. Hes a good coach and would be an OK hire but IMO there are far better candidates for PItt out there.

Got any names that you think would be better than Miller?

 

[barkleyfamily]

Its time to stop talking about Miller. All this non sense about his interest in Pitt is simply wishful thinking by Pitt fans. Hes a good coach and would be an OK hire but IMO there are far better candidates for PItt out there.

Like who?

 

[barkleyfamily]

Its time to stop talking about Miller. All this non sense about his interest in Pitt is simply wishful thinking by Pitt fans. Hes a good coach and would be an OK hire but IMO there are far better candidates for PItt out there.

Like who?

Realistic names only please.

 

[joeydavid]

Why this is so puzzling to people is beyond my understanding. Even if you discount the ESPN report- Virtually every coach whose top assistant isn't facing 20 years for cheating would be better.

Got any names that you think would be better than Miller?

 

[thebadby2]

Some of you dipsticks never learn. Arizona WANTS him gone. His recruiting is shot. He under performs in the Tournament with excellent talent and resources. They were probably hoping Pitt would grab him so they could solve multiple problems at once. This time however, Pitt isn't stupid enough to hire a coach nobody wants to touch. Thank goodness.

And Hurley is likely using Pitt to get a higher offer from UConn. That should be crystal clear by now or else he would have signed.

Also, we aren't going to hire a coach who already said his health problems will not allow him to do his best.

So anyone claiming to have inside info, whether it's "Matt" or anyone else, just shut up.

Looks like you’re the one who needs to learn. Arizona wouldn’t let go of Miller, and he wouldn’t want to leave, unless he and his program are in a lot of trouble. The only reason he would ever consider leaving a great job like the one he has for a not so great job like this one is if he knows the axe is about to fall.

Now look at it from Pitt’s perspective. Miller would be far and away the best coach Pitt could ever have the chance to hire at this point in time. Hurley, Odom, Musselman over Miller? Please. Those guys may prove to be great at a next level program, or they may prove to be busts. Who knows, because they haven’t proven $hit at the ACC level. Miller on the other hand has made his bones and is a top tier coach at a top tier program. But if he’s actively being investigated by the Feds and NCAA , there is NO WAY Pitt could/would hire him. It would be the dumbest thing they could ever do, and a potential catastrophe far beyond the one Pitt is dealing with right now.

So simply put, Miller to Pitt was never going to happen.

 

[joeydavid]

What has Miller proven without cheating?

Looks like you’re the one who needs to learn. Arizona wouldn’t let go of Miller, and he wouldn’t want to leave, unless he and his program are in a lot of trouble. The only reason he would ever consider leaving a great job like the one he has for a not so great job like this one is if he knows the axe is about to fall.

Now look at it from Pitt’s perspective. Miller would be far and away the best coach Pitt could ever have the chance to hire at this point in time. Hurley, Odom, Musselman over Miller? Please. Those guys may prove to be great at a next level program, or they may prove to be busts. Who knows, because they haven’t proven $hit at the ACC level. Miller on the other hand has made his bones and is a top tier coach at a top tier program. But if he’s actively being investigated by the Feds and NCAA , there is NO WAY Pitt could/would hire him. It would be the dumbest thing they could ever do, and a potential catastrophe far beyond the one Pitt is dealing with right now.

So simply put, Miller to Pitt was never going to happen.

 

[TD_istheman]

What has Miller proven without cheating?

How about Williams or Coach K? Two big cheaters

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

What has Miller proven without cheating?

What has he proven with cheating?

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

What has he proven with cheating?

He's proven he can win 75% of his games and get to the Elite 8 four times. Something no Pitt coach (as long as I've been alive), or any of the jabronis they're looking at hiring, have done.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

He's proven he can win 75% of his games and get to the Elite 8 four times. Something no Pitt coach (as long as I've been alive), or any of the jabronis they're looking at hiring, have done.

Regular season wins and elite 8 appearance is the goal?

Weird

His job at zona must be rock solid .
Other than the first round flame out.
Having no recruits for the next 2 classes
His entire coaching staff bailing or arrested.
Oh- and the fbi and ncaa at the back door.

Yeah
Let’s get together us some of that action

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Regular season wins and elite 8 appearance is the goal?

Weird

A coach that wins is the goal.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

A coach that wins is the goal.

Wins .
Sure.

He’s not coming to Pitt and never was.
Just like calipari never was

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

He's a good coach. Pooh poohing

Wins .
Sure.

He’s not coming to Pitt and never was.
Just like calipari never was

I never said he was coming here or interested. Simply pointing out that he's a good coach and it would be hard for Pitt to do any better. People don't like him as a person, fine. He's better than anyone Pitt's had or is going after.

 

[pittbb80]

Got any names that you think would be better than Miller?

Said it a number of times

Musselman and Oats for starters

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

He's a good coach. Pooh poohing


I never said he was coming here or interested. Simply pointing out that he's a good coach and it would be hard for Pitt to do any better. People don't like him as a person, fine. He's better than anyone Pitt's had or is going after.

He’s at a blue blood program and hadnt reached their standards.

It’s a sliding scale.

The next 3 years will tell if he’s a good coach or not.

 

[joeydavid]

He's proven that he can win while cheating at the highest level. Period.

Take his "advantage" away and he might be coaching high school basketball by now. It's all speculation if he can win without cheating because he's never done it.

He's proven he can win 75% of his games and get to the Elite 8 four times. Something no Pitt coach (as long as I've been alive), or any of the jabronis they're looking at hiring, have done.

 

[thebadby2]

What has he proven with cheating?

A helluva lot more than Danny Hurley, Bart Oats, Ryan Odom, and Adolph Musselman have accomplished, combined, likely more than any of them will accomplish in the future individually. More than Jamie Dixon has accomplished. And he’s still young, only 5 years older than Hurley, 6 years older than Oats, 5 years younger than Musselman.

But like you said, and as I’ve been saying, Miller to Pitt was never gonna happen, no way, no how, so it rally doesn’t matter.

 

[TD_6082]

He’s at a blue blood program and hadnt reached their standards.

It’s a sliding scale.

The next 3 years will tell if he’s a good coach or not.

Let's ignore his whole career. Only the next 3 years are important. Makes sense.

 

[TD_istheman]

Let's ignore his whole career. Only the next 3 years are important. Makes sense.

He is old, forgetful, bless his heart.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Let's ignore his whole career. Only the next 3 years are important. Makes sense.

If only Pitt wouldn't have ignored your buddy Stallings' whole career when they decided to hire him.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

He's better than anyone Pitt's had or is going after.

I'm not so sure I agree with that. Jamie Dixon winning at Pitt, where let's face it, it's not an easy place to do just that - most haven't and then proving that wasn't a fluke by winning at TCU has shown he's a damn good coach. Miller has won, but at places at the surface appear easy to win at. If you can't win at Arizona, you should find another place to work and Thad Matta laid some really solid ground for him at Xavier. All he had to do was not mess it up.

I'm not saying he can't coach or going to some crazy stretch, but to say Pitt has never had a coach of his caliber isn't honest in my opinion. Dixon has won at places much harder to win at than Miller...

 

[BFo8]

I'm not so sure I agree with that. Jamie Dixon winning at Pitt, where let's face it, it's not an easy place to do just that - most haven't and then proving that wasn't a fluke by winning at TCU has shown he's a damn good coach. Miller has won, but at places at the surface appear easy to win at. If you can't win at Arizona, you should find another place to work and Thad Matta laid some really solid ground for him at Xavier. All he had to do was not mess it up.

I'm not saying he can't coach or going to some crazy stretch, but to say Pitt has never had a coach of his caliber isn't honest in my opinion. Dixon has won at places much harder to win at than Miller...

Can agree with some of this, but if you’re giving Matta partial credit for Miller’s success you certainly have to give Ben Howland a lot of credit for Dixon’s.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

Can agree with some of this, but if you’re giving Matta partial credit for Miller’s success you certainly have to give Ben Howland a lot of credit for Dixon’s.

Fair point there for sure, although Miller was "only" at Xavier for what, 5 years or so...That's a class and a half of only his guys - give or take. Jamie being here for 13 kinda shows it was all him, but again - I see your point

 

[BFo8]

Fair point there for sure, although Miller was "only" at Xavier for what, 5 years or so...That's a class and a half of only his guys - give or take. Jamie being here for 13 kinda shows it was all him, but again - I see your point

I think both are very good coaches, wouldn’t consider either to be on that next level with the elite guys.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

I think both are very good coaches, wouldn’t consider either to be on that next level with the elite guys.

Again - fair points, I was only pointing out that Gunga_Galunga said Pitt hasn't had anyone as good as Miller and I'm not so sure I agree that Miller is all that better than Dixon.

 

[TD_6082]

If only Pitt wouldn't have ignored your buddy Stallings' whole career when they decided to hire him.

Give the man time to build his program.

 

[BFo8]

Again - fair points, I was only pointing out that Gunga_Galunga said Pitt hasn't had anyone as good as Miller and I'm not so sure I agree that Miller is all that better than Dixon.

I like Howland a little better than either of them actually.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Give the man time to build his program.

You don't build a program by sleeping in public on recruiting trips.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

I like Howland a little better than either of them actually.

That too...another guy that fits the same criteria I showed for Dixon, although being here for only 4 years...either way the original quote from Gunga doesn't fly to me

 

[below0w]

Give the man time to build his program.

I'm confused, did you mean to type 'bury' instead of 'build'? Stallings was "building" his program much the same way as the Allies "built" Dresden during WW2.

 

[pittbb80]

I'm confused, did you mean to type 'bury' instead of 'build'? Stallings was "building" his program much the same way as the Allies "built" Dresden during WW2.

Gotta give stallings Credit. He’s the best demolition coach in the country. Tore the Pitt program down in less than two years. Has plenty of time to catch up in his sleep after all that hard work

 

[Pittx9]

I like Howland a little better than either of them actually.

Howland is great. I always hear people argue about Dixon vs. Howland and it's rather silly because the answer is quite simple.

Jamie Dixon is the best coach in Pitt history, Ben Howland is the best coach that ever coached at Pitt. There is a difference.

 

[Pitt79]

He's proven he can win 75% of his games and get to the Elite 8 four times. Something no Pitt coach (as long as I've been alive), or any of the jabronis they're looking at hiring, have done.

Exactly! SO CHEAT like everyone else does!

 

[thebadby2]

Can agree with some of this, but if you’re giving Matta partial credit for Miller’s success you certainly have to give Ben Howland a lot of credit for Dixon’s.

It was Howland who resurrected and rebuilt basketball. Dixon carried it forward. I think a lot of posters have conveniently forgotten that. Dixon does not get credit for the Pitt rebuild.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

It was Howland who resurrected and rebuilt basketball. Dixon carried it forward. I think a lot of posters have conveniently forgotten that. Dixon does not get credit for the Pitt rebuild.

Only for elevating and maintaining it.
2 years after howland Dixon had an entirely new starting 5.
Don’t be silly

 

[TD_6082]

Only for elevating and maintaining it.
2 years after howland Dixon had an entirely new starting 5.
Don’t be silly

Easier to sell a program coming off back to back Sweet 16s. Pitt hasn't tasted any real success in 7 years, and never in the current conference.