5-9 overall, with losses to The Citadel and UMBC, 0-3 in conference, and 0 recruits.
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5-9 overall, with losses to The Citadel and UMBC, 0-3 in conference, and 0 recruits.
I believe it depends on if you are looking to see if the glass is half full or half empty.
If you are consistent you should be feeling really good about the Steelers. Are you making the case for them to stay status quo because in fact they have wins over the #1 and # 4 seeds Titans and Bills and may end 9-7-1 with one of the toughest schedules in the league? (The toughest according to CBS sports)
I don’t know. I’ve seen more than a few posters on here claim Minn, UVa and ND are all really bad teams…after we lost to them by 1-pt. But then again, those 1-pt losses turned us into not such a bad team after all.
I guess you always have to consider the source of what you’re reading.
Yes. In my case I do not have the insight or knowledge to judge the overall level of play of other teams and so I revert back to the general idea that losing to UMBC and the Citadel are horrific loses while playing a close game against Minny, UVA, ND, etc., are part of a rebuilding process with no way around it.
But to me the problem in judging Pitt's team as horrible, and lacking anything near ACC level talent etc. is this: Horrible teams that play some opponents tough throughout the year have to deal with many or at least regular blow-out losses, that hasn't happened since Vandy at thanksgiving. It should have happened vs ND who lost by 4 to UK and just kinda handled UNC most of the game in a win over them, it should have happened on the road vs Louisville.
My feeling is the close losses are mainly due to talent and depth.
Sure, there was at least one we could attribute to coaching and another that may have just been bad luck, but I think the Louisville game points to mostly talent.
We had a 4 point lead. We stopped Louisville from scoring the next 3 consecutive times. Our 3 possessions during that time included 2 missed FTs by Femi, 1 missed FT from John and a missed couldn't be more open or have more time to set your feet, 3 by Femi. Average teams convert those opportunities. That was the game.
My guess is if you look back, you will see similar situations in most games.
I realize that applies to most teams and most games.
Still with us, talent and depth are the deciding factors.
My point is luck is really not the determining factor here. I don’t expect luck to even out.
I expect the losses to continue, close or not.
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Agreed, just the way Louisville stepped up the last three minutes or so, it just seemed like they were able to turn it up at their discretion and Pitt was grinding along like it had been the whole game.
We are losing at least 1 key player (Mo) from a team that is 5-9 and have 0 recruits. We are likely to lose at least one more player, and this is going to be Capel’s 6th straight losing season. I’m not sure how anyone could look at this as half full.
Only in the context of this season, sure if the bottom drops out in any way like the past three years nothing is going to matter, but finishing with about 6 ACC wins and a bunch of very competitive conference losses, you (i.e. Heather) have to concede progress will have been made?
Not really.. Beating 6 equally bad teams is not progress..
But, I’m guessing the “ Capel Sac Swingers” such as yourself need to find any excuse to keep him..
Agree with the empty trips thing. Gone on way too long here. Noticed it more lately but having the ball when you’re up and then not getting a good look or turnover or no set play really has hurt this year’s team.
Gueye is a good player but is replaceable in free agency. Pitt should be a more attractive place for free agents because Capel can sell Hugley and the guards and just needing 1 piece to make the NCAAT. Not saying we'll make it but he can go into a home and say "Hugley is going to be an All-American and we have solid guards. If we get you, we're going to the NCAAT."
Last year, we were a disaster and he still got Gueye and Burton.
Gotta admit I can't stop laughing....Soufs new Username....first post....why not just use your real handle haha?
Just from my memory, he has the wrong guy here.
I would certainly not consider you a staunch Capel supporter.
Thanks Gary. I believe you have to try to be objective otherwise you will be blind-sided when someone like Heather (who seems to support Capel) sees benefit in staying the course.
Beating 6 bad acc teams and no recruits isn’t exactly progress from last year, and no one in their right mind could say this coach has made progress in his 4 years here. I guess it’s a little better than the 2-3 acc wins most people suggested, but so what. The die is cast.
Agree - Why would he? He can probably get to pick from many better situations.
Where did you go Mr. Big Post?
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Well Mr Sac Swinger. New username can only post 1 time every so often..Where did you go Mr. Big Post?
Gives you more time to Savor the close losses to rag tag programs..
Brick by Brick
This is Phil at his funniest .
An obsessive weirdo , but funny.
i can assure you Souf has been straight forward that this is likely Capel’s last year barring a sudden upswing in recruiting .
But he’ll root for the players and cheer in person often because they are playing hard and deserve it
That's just it. Right? They are playing hard. They aren't being lazy. But aside from the W/L record which is again not pretty, the ZERO in committed recruits and the dead man walking of Capel who would likely carry that same label into next season if he somehow is retained won't change this.
It's a shame, I wanted it to work, I will watch and root on, I won't get angry at all (that is not necessarily a good thing for fans to be like this), appreciate the good, not obsess over the bad, but at the end of the season......it's not personal. Strictly business.
Sorry. Playing hard is something that shouldn’t be commended.. These kids have played this sport since grade school and before. The will to win and play hard is a given. Not an aspect that should be singled out and given a ribbon for….
Just another excuse to try and heap praise on a Loser Coach and his incompetent staff..
CVS Souf and Souf's New Username. How do you guys not love Phil?
Remember when he made SeanMillerFan and pretended to me? The guy is a legend and should be in the Lair HOF. You are all witnesses to his greatness.
Phil is only an arsonist .
So his opinions need dismissed as the trolling it is.
But ya know - I guess it’s flattering how much my posts matter to him
You keep posting that, and you keep misremembering that stretch of the game.
After Pitt took a 3 point lead (54-51), the next three possessions were missed jumper by Louisville, ONE missed foul shot by Odukale, Louisville turnover, Odukale missed three, Louisville missed jumper, Hugley MADE jumper. So at the end of that disasterout stretch we actually increased the lead from three points to five.
Then, after Louisville made a shot and got fouled but missed a foul shot, Hugley got fouled and made one out of two to make the lead four. So after this disastrous not quite two minute stretch that you think cost us the game we actually had a bigger lead then when that stretch started, because you have completely mis-remembered what actually happened during the game.
Ok - my memory was not perfect I missed an exchange of makes. That exactly effected my point how?
from 54-51 at 9:47 we picked up 1 point during a stretch that included 2 Louis misses and a turnover.that ended 57-53 at 8:04.
Femi missed the front end of a 1 and 1 (2 easy points), a wide open 3 (3 pts) and John missed the backend of 2 foul shots (1 pt). That is 6 very gettable points.
57-53 could quite easily have been 63-53.
Yes, we did gain 1 point. Maybe that impresses you.
In my view, 63-53 was well within reach and with it a likely victory. The game was right there for the taking and we refused to take it.
Any view on my central point that the close losses are more due to talent and depth than just bad luck? Do you believe we win the next of these games because luck evens out or do the losses just continue, close or not?
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It’s a master of the obvious statement to say the close losses are due to a lack of talent and depth .
the point was - you invented a scenerio in this game detached from reality - and rather than admitting that - you’ve doubled down on it - and are still trying to rationalize it .
If we gain one point on Boston College every two minutes tomorrow I am going to be one happy Pitt fan. If we are beating Boston College with 8 minutes to go in the game tomorrow and then two minutes later we have increased the lead I'm not going to complain because we didn't score on every single possession.
I wonder, do you realize that you could look at a three or four possession stretch for literally every team in literally every single game and find a stretch exactly like the one that you are bemoaning from Pitt in this game?
