Lyke should announce a narduzzi raise and extension this week, IMO

[ratking17]

Time to build some stability in this program. Step up and get the head coaches salary in the 3 million end. Add some money for assistant coach salaries. And finally announce that the pitt script throwbacks are the permanent color scheme. Lyke came with the reputation of being able to gather financial commitments. Well time to prove that by getting some of these high end donors to pony up for once.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Definitely would do sometime soon. Yes.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Lyke should also announce that plans are in the works for "Right Sizing" Heinz Field for next year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[pittizit]

I don’t think we should reward mediocrity ...yea he beat Miami but he also lost SEVEN games...and no bowl game...I say let him squirm a little ...my 2 cents

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

It's hard to win at Pitt. Look at how well Chryst is doing at Wisconsin and the early success Graham had at ASU. Show confidence and faith in his process. Show faith in what he's building here. Extend him just before/after the playoff.

 

[AJSH2P]

Something about giving a coach a raise after winning 5 games would not go over well with a lot of people, including me. Failing to meet expectations shouldn't be rewarded.

I'm all for stability and keeping Duzz here, but c'mon man.

 

[California Panther]

Something about giving a coach a raise after winning 5 games would not go over well with a lot of people, including me. Failing to meet expectations shouldn't be rewarded.

I'm all for stability and keeping Duzz here, but c'mon man.

how many years does he have left on his current contract? 4 years?

 

[PittPoker]

Time to build some stability in this program. Step up and get the head coaches salary in the 3 million end. Add some money for assistant coach salaries. And finally announce that the pitt script throwbacks are the permanent color scheme. Lyke came with the reputation of being able to gather financial commitments. Well time to prove that by getting some of these high end donors to pony up for once.

No

 

[bobfree]

I don’t think we should reward mediocrity ...yea he beat Miami but he also lost SEVEN games...and no bowl game...I say let him squirm a little ...my 2 cents

You’ll entitled to your opinion.

It’s ridiculous but you’re entitled

 

[Safety Blitz]

I'm old school.
I believe rewards need to be earned.
Have to judge the whole body of work, not just one or two nice afternoons.
And Narduzzi has not earned more than he's being currently compensated for yet.

 

[PittPoker]

You’ll entitled to your opinion.

It’s ridiculous but you’re entitled

Why? You want to reward mediocrity? You do realize we lost 7 games this season, including to a 1 win team and we lost those 7 games mainly because of Narduzzi's coaching decisions and his staff's.

 

[FKA VITAL]

No

Definitely yes. This is the reality of D1. If you think the program is overall headed in the right direction you reward the coaches. The only thing that Barnes did that I liked was reported bonuses after that first year (I think it was then). It's not simply a wins and losses decision-it's a where have we been, where are we going and are we on the right track decision. Big pivture a definite yes!

 

[pittizit]

You’ll entitled to your opinion.

It’s ridiculous but you’re entitled

You’re in the minority read the thread..

 

[bobfree]

Why? You want to reward mediocrity? You do realize we lost 7 games this season, including to a 1 win team and we lost those 7 games mainly because of Narduzzi's coaching decisions and his staff's.

Just because you throw a bunch of idiotic sayings into a post doesn’t make it correct.

The truth is Pat Narduzzi is the best coach Pitt can get without scratching off a lottery ticket with a good chance of getting worse. Looks like we finally have a QB.

And you want a fracture a relationship? The guy had 8 wins back to back years. If we don’t extend him now and he wins 9-10 games next year he will leave.

 

[bobfree]

You’re in the minority read the thread..

That’s ok.

 

[TD_istheman]

Time to build some stability in this program. Step up and get the head coaches salary in the 3 million end. Add some money for assistant coach salaries. And finally announce that the pitt script throwbacks are the permanent color scheme. Lyke came with the reputation of being able to gather financial commitments. Well time to prove that by getting some of these high end donors to pony up for once.

4 million is really the low end of trying to keep your coach and show you are in it to win it. Look what UCLA paid their coach. Need a bigger buyout as well.

 

[TD_istheman]

You all know college football is different than where you work right ? You have to pay up front , if you gamble and then the coach succeeds, it will cost you your coach and if not much more money on the back end.

 

[ratking17]

How much does the perception of pitt hurt it? Whether it's attendance or instability or lack of wins, there are things that hurt pitt, especially in recruiting.

Well there are a few things pitt can control. You can control the instability by making the job attractive and not the 65th best paying job in D1. Let recruits know pitt is serious in building and growing the program around narduzzi.

And while he isn't perfect, narduzzi is building a really nice resume of big-time wins. Time to show some real faith in the man. And if he leaves pay the next coach just as much. Enough with being fiscally conservative in the age of competitive d1 sports

 

[Rickey]

You "fracture" a relationship with a coach who has a losing record and several more years on his contract by not tearing up his contract and extending him?

I think not.

 

[Chescat]

This is an interesting thread where IMO both sides have some merit. In the "real" working world, raises before the end of a contract are usually a result of outstanding
performance . However in college football and sports in general, raises are often given for the sole purpose of retaining a coach. Looking at our performance and
our won loss record, would at first glance make the suggestion of a raise almost
laughable. However college football, and sports in general, do not represent
"real world" work experience. It actually becomes the norm to give a raise
after a less than stellar performance, if other factors like coach retention are a factor.
BTW, supply and demand is also an important factor that can't be ignored.

 

[bobfree]

You "fracture" a relationship with a coach who has a losing record and several more years on his contract by not tearing up his contract and extending him?

I think not.

He has a winning record. He had two winning seasons before this. Rebuilding years happen. And no one is saying tear it up just extend him.

 

[TD_istheman]

This is an interesting thread where IMO both sides have some merit. In the "real" working world, raises before the end of a contract are usually a result of outstanding
performance . However in college football and sports in general, raises are often given for the sole purpose of retaining a coach. Looking at our performance and
our won loss record, would at first glance make the suggestion of a raise almost
laughable. However college football, and sports in general, do not represent
"real world" work experience. It actually becomes the norm to give a raise
after a less than stellar performance, if other factors like coach retention are a factor.
BTW, supply and demand is also an important factor that can't be ignored.

This!

 

[Panther Parrothead]

I don’t think we should reward mediocrity ...yea he beat Miami but he also lost SEVEN games...and no bowl game...I say let him squirm a little ...my 2 cents

Making someone squirm isn't showing "love".......unless you've been watching "Fifty Shades of Gray".

 

[PantherO]

Beat NC and win a Bowl game. Then give an extension.

Oh yeah, and don't crap the bed early on next year after the Big Miami win.

 

[upj87]

Just because you throw a bunch of idiotic sayings into a post doesn’t make it correct.

The truth is Pat Narduzzi is the best coach Pitt can get without scratching off a lottery ticket with a good chance of getting worse. Looks like we finally have a QB.

And you want a fracture a relationship? The guy had 8 wins back to back years. If we don’t extend him now and he wins 9-10 games next year he will leave.

You’ll entitled to your opinion.

It’s ridiculous but you’re entitled

ya mean idiotic saying such as these? Sorry, the original post about not rewarding mediocrity because of a one day the entire year shiny object seemed justified. But hey, that is just one man's ridiculous opinion.

 

[DiehardPanther]

Just because you throw a bunch of idiotic sayings into a post doesn’t make it correct.

The truth is Pat Narduzzi is the best coach Pitt can get without scratching off a lottery ticket with a good chance of getting worse. Looks like we finally have a QB.

And you want a fracture a relationship? The guy had 8 wins back to back years. If we don’t extend him now and he wins 9-10 games next year he will leave.

Bingo! You extend him now, and increase the buyout.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

4 million is really the low end of trying to keep your coach and show you are in it to win it. Look what UCLA paid their coach. Need a bigger buyout as well.

I am all for an extension but 4 million is not the "low end" of trying to keep your coach for anyone except the very wealthiest programs in the country.

Mike Leach, Paul Chryst, Paul Johnson, Bill Snyder -- all good coaches around $3 million a year.

UCLA sometimes leads the Pac 12 in attendance and gets donations from Hollywood people in the second biggest metro area in the country. Even in a bad year, they got over 50,000 fans at every home game this year, several over 60,000. Not exactly apples to apples. Big names like Mo Astin, David Geffen, Kevin Love, and Russell Westbrook are giving millions or even tens of millions to UCLA for various big projects in big one off checks that Pitt athletics isn't going to match.

 

[TD_istheman]

In college football, that's how it works , pay upfront and a huge buyout, not saying I agree with this practice , but this is how it's done , Pitt has to play by those same rules.

 

[Panther_in_Kentucky]

Time to build some stability in this program. Step up and get the head coaches salary in the 3 million end. Add some money for assistant coach salaries. And finally announce that the pitt script throwbacks are the permanent color scheme. Lyke came with the reputation of being able to gather financial commitments. Well time to prove that by getting some of these high end donors to pony up for once.

I agree. Although Narduzzi frustrates me to no end with his ridiculous losses:

* Giving up 500 yards passing to a good not great Oklahoma State team because of his stubborn defensive philosophy. Adding insult to injury, he does this at home with a nice crowd and National TV audience.
* Hanging the season's hopes on 1 year wonder Max Browne at QB. What are you thinking coach? First of all, Max Browne was easily the 3rd or 4th best QB on this roster and you lost every game with Max Browne and wasted Ben DiNucci and Kenny Pickett.
* Unfortunate losses to a terrible UNC team and a terrible inability to gain 1 yard and win the game at Va Tech.

So what is infuriating is that you look at the Pitt team that beat a very, very good Miami team; a National Championship caliper Miami team to end the season and how this same group almost lost to Youngstown State and looked like IUP against Oklahoma State screams inconsistency in coaching.

Now you have everyone's hopes up for 2018 because of the Miami win. However, you just know that Pitt and Narduzzi will find a way to screw up 2018. That is the infuriating thing. Narduzzi can say all he wants about the fans but most of that is on him and his team's lackluster performance. I will point out that in 2010 Pitt played Cincinnati for the Big East Championship on a freezing November afternoon, only to shit the bed blowing a 21 point lead, in front of a sold out Heinz Field. Guess what? Cincinnati may have brought 3,000 fans, maybe. So Pitt had 64,000 fans there to cheer it on. So coach, you need to start delivering results. Again, people don't support or associate themselves with losers.

So everyone talks about how good the 2018 OOC schedule will be with UCF, Notre Dame and Miami and you are right. That is a Great OOC schedule. However, none of those teams are as good as Miami this year. So Pitt should at least split 2 of the 4 OOC games and Narduzzi should be working to fill whatever holes in the roster there are. We shouldn't hear that the best D-Lineman is kicked off the team 2 months before the season starts or that the best OLineman is arrested for DUI or your best DB is suspended for 3 games. Get your program together and focus.

Now related to Pitt. Stop being Cheap. It is not "The Fans Fault". It is YOUR FREAKING FAULT. Having a crowd of 36,000 with the students away to support a 4-7 team the day after Thanksgiving is Damn Good. You need to pony up and pay your head coach $3.00 - $4.00 Million a year with money for great assistants. That is the minimum going rate now for good coaches. So "Ante Up" Pitt. It's the cost to play in Power 5 College Football. Stop being damn cheap and support the program.

Which is why I agree with the OP. Narduzzi "appears" to have the program heading in the right direction. It is now time to support him and see if he can get the program to where it should be.

 

[PITTLAW]

Time to build some stability in this program. Step up and get the head coaches salary in the 3 million end. Add some money for assistant coach salaries. And finally announce that the pitt script throwbacks are the permanent color scheme. Lyke came with the reputation of being able to gather financial commitments. Well time to prove that by getting some of these high end donors to pony up for once.

Not sure I get the thought process here on the assistant coaches. Does paying the existing guys make them better? I totally support more money for hiring the very best assistant coaches available...but unless you have a list of guys that you are willing to fire, and then have realistic replacement in mind--just silly talk. As for Narduzzi, he is under contract...I would not extend at this time. Of course waiting till next year could cost Pitt more, but that is the risk you have to take sometimes. Hail to Pitt!

 

[Ambst95]

I am not a fan of his assistants but I think he has won enough to warrant an extension. Pitt isn't going to hire better than Narduzzi and some good faith now may help if other jobs come to call. If he leaves, you improved your buyout.

 

[4Mark_Marty]

Not sure I get the thought process here on the assistant coaches. Does paying the existing guys make them better? I totally support more money for hiring the very best assistant coaches available...but unless you have a list of guys that you are willing to fire, and then have realistic replacement in mind--just silly talk. As for Narduzzi, he is under contract...I would not extend at this time. Of course waiting till next year could cost Pitt more, but that is the risk you have to take sometimes. Hail to Pitt!

I’ll say it slowly for you.

It’s.....how.....things.....are.....done..... in....CFB....today. Especially....when....we’ve.....had.....10....coaches...in....30....years. We....have....NO.....leverage....but...an....extension....and....a....huge....buyout.

 

[TD_istheman]

Pay now or pay much more later , that's the choice. Or Pitt's way of doing business, don't pay now , don't pay later , and hire cheap as you can

 

[CorsosRevenge]

Some of you really need to read about teams other than Pitt. PJ Fleck just negotiated an extension after a losing year in his FIRST SEASON at Minnesota. Narduzzi has two eight win seasons and an ass kicking of number 2 in his third. Some AD somewhere will realize Narduzzi can do more with better resources.

 

[paulbl99]

I’ll say it slowly for you.

It’s.....how.....things.....are.....done..... in....CFB....today. Especially....when....we’ve.....had.....10....coaches...in....30....years. We....have....NO.....leverage....but...an....extension....and....a....huge....buyout.

Let’s lose him and have the idiots at Pitt looking for another HC

What a bunch of MAROONS.

 

[Mikefln]

We must keep Duzz, but hopefully he gets some new assistant coaches.

 

[sappycrease]

A raise and extension? Give me a break. Narduzzi coached ONE good game this season out 12. He lost to a 1 win UNC team at home just a couple weeks ago. Oh yeah, and he ran the clock out at the one against Tech last week.

He had a losing record and his recruiting is god awful. If he has another losing record next season, I'd hope we can him.

 

[TD_istheman]

I am not advocating for anything , Duzz makes 1.89 million, if he has a good year next year , which many of us feel is a good possibility, well without the extension and huge buyout, we will be starting over once again, that's a given. That's Pitt issue , but many are watching things around her more closely than I think ever before. Selling a D Cord or O Cord with no head coaching experience might be a very hard sell, and get anyone excited to move this program.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Narduzzi in reality IS probably making around 3 million a year. It's a good salary considering his young career as a head coach and the fact he is coaching a team near the bottom of power five teams in revenue. He'll get another extension next year so he is always 4 or so years out for recruiting purposes.

Yes some Pitt coaches got a raw deal in the past, but Narduzzi is not one of them. We're giving him a shot here, as well we should.

 

[Swervin27]

Narduzzi in reality IS probably making around 3 million a year. It's a good salary considering his young career as a head coach and the fact he is coaching a team near the bottom of power five teams in revenue. He'll get another extension next year so he is always 4 or so years out for recruiting purposes.

Yes some Pitt coaches got a raw deal in the past, but Narduzzi is not one of them. We're giving him a shot here, as well we should.

where did you get the info that he is making 3million a year? I don't even think he is making 2 million annually..