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Man, **** this university!

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What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
Uh,ok
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
Are you saying Pitt can't be both? Having quality academics and athletic programs is not indirectly proportional. Many schools have highly ranked academics and athletic programs. I am sure that is a goal of Chancellor Gallagher.
 
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What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
Here-here! And we need a Johnny Majors statue, too! And maybe a Pat Narduzzi cardboard cut-out figure to sell in the campus store. :cool:
 
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What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.

Oh yeah?! So what are YOU doing to make it better?!?!?!?! Do you have season tickets???? Do you go to bowl games????? Do you support the university financially??? Are you an alumni? Do you purchase Pitt gear???? Are you doing everything you can to make a difference now that we have an administration that supports athletics?

If your answer is no to any of those questions, then no, **** you!!!!
 
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What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.

Which one of these two words is applicable to this post.

Sarcasm

Idiocy
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.

Go root for WCCC and their neanderthals. You would fit right in with those idiots.
 
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I just may apply, would love to be part of the inaugural Parks and Recreation Program.
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
Please, please, please change your stripes and start rooting for psu. You are a huge embarrassment to Pitt. Go away.
 
Don't be too hard on him, guys. It was just a failed attempt at sarcasm.

I don't understand why people think that to be excellent in academics you have to be bad or underfunded in athletics or vice versa? They can and do complement each other at wonderful schools all over the country.

Investing in your athletic department shouldn't mean that you are neglecting any aspect of your academic operation and the inverse is also true. It is the definition of a symbiotic relationship.

I understand that resources are finite, but they're finite everywhere, not just at Pitt. Building a new stadium just about everywhere is a money loser. And yet highly esteemed universities throughout the country continue to build new and renovate old football stadiums by the bushels full every single year.

That's because by that same limited rationale, building any new building – aside from perhaps a dormitory or a parking garage – is a money loser and a poor investment. Why should a football stadium be singled out? Because it's only full six or seven times per year? How many buildings on Pitt's campus that are open year-round have a greater potential financial or student recruitment impact on the University?

This isn't necessarily about building a stadium on the newly available land. However, people definitely need to start taking a broader look at Pitt's issues. The old way of thinking is what led us to being forced to tear down Pitt Stadium in the first place.

We never put any money back into the old lady and allowed it to fall into dilapidation because doing so would send a terrible message that we valued athletics at the expense of academics – or so the dumbass reasoning went.

Highly esteemed Universities all over the country have proven that you can and SHOULD take care of your treasures - be they academic or athletic - because it's in the best interest of the greater good of the university as a whole.

Because so many people struggle with nuance in this forum I want to make it clear for the 687th time that doesn't mean that building a new stadium in Oakland is imperative because it's not. It simply means that it's absurd when people say it is impossible and should not even be discussed.

That's just plain ridiculous.
 
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Don't be too hard on him, guys. It was just a failed attempt at sarcasm.

I don't understand why people think that to be excellent in academics you have to be bad or underfunded in athletics or vice versa? They can and do complement each other at wonderful schools all over the country.

Investing in your athletic department shouldn't mean that you are neglecting any aspect of your academic operation and the inverse is also true. It is the definition of a symbiotic relationship.

I understand that resources are finite, but they're finite everywhere, not just at Pitt. Building a new stadium just about everywhere is a money loser. And yet highly esteemed universities throughout the country continue to build new and renovate old football stadiums by the bushels full every single year.

That's because by that same limited rationale, building any new building – aside from perhaps a dormitory or a parking garage – is a money loser and a poor investment. Why should a football stadium be singled out? Because it's only full six or seven times per year? How many buildings on Pitt's campus that are open year-round have a greater potential financial or student recruitment impact on the University?

This isn't necessarily about building a stadium on the newly available land. However, people definitely need to start taking a broader look at Pitt's issues. The old way of thinking is what led us to being forced to tear down Pitt Stadium in the first place.

We never put any money back into the old lady and allowed it to fall into dilapidation because doing so would send a terrible message that we valued athletics at the expense of academics – or so the dumbass reasoning went.

Highly esteemed Universities all over the country have proven that you can and SHOULD take care of your treasures - be they academic or athletic - because it's in the best interest of the greater good of the university as a whole.

Because so many people struggle with nuance in this forum I want to make it clear for the 687th time that doesn't mean that building a new stadium in Oakland is imperative because it's not. It simply means that it's absurd when people say it is impossible and should not even be discussed.

That's just plain ridiculous.
Well, why do you keep saying this?? Almost no one has said it CAN'T be done...just that it SHOULDN'T be done.
 
Well, why do you keep saying this?? Almost no one has said it CAN'T be done...just that it SHOULDN'T be done.

That is an entirely different discussion. If we graduate past whether or not it can be done then we can address the core issue of whether or not it should be done.

So we all agree that it absolutely can be done and that Pitt can raise the money to do it without it costing the university $1 billion or $600 million or whatever other nonsensical figure people are pulling out of their respective arses?

I sure hope so because I would love to move on to the more substantive/interesting part of the discussion, which is to say whether or not it is a worthwhile investment.
 
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What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.


Congrats! Master Troll honoree
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
Put your money where your mouth is...if you want to start a capital campaign for an on campus stadium, no one is stopping you. The last that I looked this fund couldn't buy a box of Cracker Jacks.
 
That is an entirely different discussion. If we graduate past whether or not it can be done then we can address the core issue of whether or not it should be done.

So we all agree that it absolutely can be done and that Pitt can raise the money to do it without it costing the university $1 billion or $600 million or whatever other nonsensical figure people are pulling out of their respective arses?

I sure hope so because I would love to move on to the more substantive/interesting part of the discussion, which is to say whether or not it is a worthwhile investment.

Two really good posts on the subject. Your right, most people read the OP and thought it was a legit post by a goofball but now that you mention it, it was sarcasm at its worst.

Secondly, regarding your question about whether or not a new stadium is a good investment or not............From a pure bottom line numbers perspective, the answer is easy..........its a poor financial investment. However, I think you could say the same thing about college athletics in general at most Universities. Yet you see most Universities running athletic programs at fairly large deficits and making poor capital investments as well. Are the people running these places morons as well or is there a bigger picture to look at? I think PG said it best when he said the athletic program is not the House but it is the Front Porch through which many people view the house. There have been studies that have shown that the quality of the athletic program has a definite impact on application rates and the way in which a University is viewed. Those studies also showed that things like research grants and other opportunities arise from the positive image that good athletic programs provide the University.

Let me be clear, Im not advocating that Pitt run off and build an on campus stadium. Im fine with HF and see the advantages of playing there just as much as I enjoyed Pitt stadium. I see both sides of that argument. What I am saying is that, just as you are, that the debate over whether or not Pitt should be evaluating an on campus facility is a legitimate debate. Unfortunately, its one that cannot be framed purely by conventional financial considerations alone.
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
WOW! Take it easy Francis!
 
There have been studies that have shown that the quality of the athletic program has a definite impact on application rates and the way in which a University is viewed. Those studies also showed that things like research grants and other opportunities arise from the positive image that good athletic programs provide the University.

I can absolutely guarantee you that while a burst of athletic success can result in transient boosts of undergraduate application numbers at schools, there is zero connection between athletics (or any other endeavor that may impact a school's image) and any institution obtaining research funding. The only meaningful connections between a university and research funding is the actual quality of the research and researchers. Institutional reputation, however obtained, has nothing to do with getting a good or bad peer-reviewed score on a research grant.
 
What's its deal? It has all of this academic prestige and groundbreaking research and a big endowment, and I'm sick of it! I'm tired of what Mark NERDYBERG has done to it. Tear down the Towers/Quad/Union, build a stadium there, lower the admissions standards so we can get more drunk rowdy students at every game, take anyone with a pulse so long as they can play ball, and just WIN, BABY, WIN. I don't care if the university has good academic programs or football players that follow the law, I just want CHAMPIONSHIPS.


All you nerds can go ahead and send your kids to well-ranked schools, leave Pitt for the people who want to send their kids to a school that WINS.
You would think they could come up with a floating stadium that could hover above Oakland designed by the nerds that would satisfy the best of both worlds.....
 
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