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Media hype creation Chase Young

joeydavid said:
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He's played maybe 5 top 50ish offensive lines this season. I believe he had 5 total tackles and half a sack in those games. I know, I know the B1G media guys claim he's superman. :rolleyes:
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And when he goes top 3 in the draft, it will just be because the media hyped him up, not because the professional talent evaluators whose livelihoods depend on picking the best possible players knew what they were doing. Right?
 
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joeydavid said:
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He's played maybe 5 top 50ish offensive lines this season. I believe he had 5 total tackles and half a sack in those games. I know, I know the B1G media guys claim he's superman. :rolleyes:
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I watched him quite a bit last night. He obviously is a very gifted player, but the LT for Clemson got the best of him. Young needs to work on his craft if he is going to be great at the next level. He used the same 1 or 2 moves, and Carman was ready for it all game.
 
thebadby2 said:
And when he goes top 3 in the draft, it will just be because the media hyped him up, not because the professional talent evaluators whose livelihoods depend on picking the best possible players knew what they were doing. Right?
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He has top 3 bust potential. He feasted on bad olines and didn't do anything against even marginal olines.
 
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joeydavid said:
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He's played maybe 5 top 50ish offensive lines this season. I believe he had 5 total tackles and half a sack in those games. I know, I know the B1G media guys claim he's superman. :rolleyes:
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No different than Twymans production. 5.5 of his 10.5 sacks came against two teams in Ohio and UNC.
 
PittMan 72 said:
Twyman is a DT. Young is a DE. Far different sack opportunities and expectations because of that. Your comparison is apples to oranges.
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Branch campus degrees aren’t that hard to obtain. Need proof? Take a look at the lurkers today. I’m 37 years old. Maybe the Big Pretend win another college football or basketball title in my lifetime.
 
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I remember you guys were super critical of James Laurenitis, and called him a "pile jumper" at OSU and said he would be a bust in the NFL.
 
FireballZ said:
Branch campus degrees aren’t that hard to obtain. Need proof? Take a look at the lurkers today. I’m 37 years old. Maybe the Big Pretend win another college football or basketball title in my lifetime.
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I know. Their infatuation with trolling a Pitt site is definitely weird. Maybe it serves as a distraction from the miserable experiences they must have interacting with their own fans?
 
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joeydavid said:
He has top 3 bust potential. He feasted on bad olines and didn't do anything against even marginal olines.
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You mean like his 4 sacks and 2 forced fumbles against Wisconsin?

I think most would consider that to be a pretty good O line.

He tore up PSU too but I know you can’t bring yourself to give him any credit for that.

Your hatred for all things B10 and the absurd lengths you feel compelled to go to to express that hatred are comical. Young is a stud by any and every measure but yours. If he had the same numbers for an ACC team including Clemson-a team that truly did not face one single half decent O line until last night— you’d be singing the exact opposite song.

So childish.
 
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thebadby2 said:
You mean like his 4 sacks and 2 forced fumbles against Wisconsin?

I think most would consider that to be a pretty good O line.

He tore up PSU too but I know you can’t bring yourself to give him any credit for that.

Your hatred for all things B10 and the absurd lengths you feel compelled to go to to express that hatred are comical. Young is a stud by any and every measure but yours. If he had the same numbers for an ACC team including Clemson-a team that truly did not face one single half decent O line until last night— you’d be singing the exact opposite song.

So childish.
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Ok dopey - UW pass protection ranking was outside the top 50 against P5. Good running line though.
 
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He’s really, really good, probably just not the superhuman the media pumps him up to be. Guy just picked a bad time to have a subpar game, it happens.

Nick Bosa didn’t get near the publicity Young did, would not be surprised if Bosa doesn’t end up being the better NFL player though.
 
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PittMan 72 said:
Twyman is a DT. Young is a DE. Far different sack opportunities and expectations because of that. Your comparison is apples to oranges.
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This really isn't true.

Twyman gets more 1 on 1's because we bring a ton of 6 man fire zones. He's also a helluva lot closer to the ball.
 
thebadby2 said:
You mean like his 4 sacks and 2 forced fumbles against Wisconsin?

I think most would consider that to be a pretty good O line.

He tore up PSU too but I know you can’t bring yourself to give him any credit for that.

Your hatred for all things B10 and the absurd lengths you feel compelled to go to to express that hatred are comical. Young is a stud by any and every measure but yours. If he had the same numbers for an ACC team including Clemson-a team that truly did not face one single half decent O line until last night— you’d be singing the exact opposite song.

So childish.
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I agree that Chase Brown may be a little over-hyped and I haven’t seen him do much the last couple games. I would have been irate if they would have somehow gave him the Heisman, thought it was ridiculous him even being mentioned for it.

But you are spot on regarding Joey David and the B10. You can’t take anything he says seriously because he obviously has this all-consuming hatred for the B10.
 
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NCanton Panther said:
It wouldn’t take much to accomplish that.
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Obviously, that’s kinda why I said it. Looked it up and saw Jones somehow recorded 6 sacks in his career, would’ve guessed less.

He’s a legendary bust, unless he gets some career ending injury Young will be a lot better than Jarvis Jones.
 
BFo8 said:
Obviously, that’s kinda why I said it. Looked it up and saw Jones somehow recorded 6 sacks in his career, would’ve guessed less.

He’s a legendary bust, unless he gets some career ending injury Young will be a lot better than Jarvis Jones.
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Yeah, thanks to Jarvis Jones, Terrell Edmunds isn’t the worst Steelers 1st rd draft choice in recent memory.
 
Artie Burns was/is worse than Edmunds too. With Edmunds, he is an okay box safety that was just picked too high. The other 2 players really were not only drafted too high but also lesser quality players.

Pittsburgh has had an extremely long record of first round picks that ranged from good to great. They were bound to finally miss on a few.
 
TheChair said:
Artie Burns was/is worse than Edmunds too. With Edmunds, he is an okay box safety that was just picked too high. The other 2 players really were not only drafted too high but also lesser quality players.

Pittsburgh has had an extremely long record of first round picks that ranged from good to great. They were bound to finally miss on a few.
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Yep you’re correct, I forgot about Artie.

Also agree, the biggest complaint with Edmunds is how high he was taken. He’s serviceable but not 1st round talent.
 
NCanton Panther said:
Yep you’re correct, I forgot about Artie.

Also agree, the biggest complaint with Edmunds is how high he was taken. He’s serviceable but not 1st round talent.
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I had no illusions about either Jones or Edmunds, knew they were both horrible picks for different reasons, but was wrong about Burns. Thought he was a solid pick that would have a nice career. Guess he will probably get one more chance somewhere else then probably be out of football in a year or two.
 
TheChair said:
Artie Burns was/is worse than Edmunds too. With Edmunds, he is an okay box safety that was just picked too high. The other 2 players really were not only drafted too high but also lesser quality players.

Pittsburgh has had an extremely long record of first round picks that ranged from good to great. They were bound to finally miss on a few.
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Huey Richardson and that fat tub of goo OL that couldn’t even pass the run the test will go down as the two worst of all time.
 
TheSpecialSauce said:
Huey Richardson and that fat tub of goo OL that couldn’t even pass the run the test will go down as the two worst of all time.
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Jamain Stephens.

I give them a little more of a pass for those guys, scouting wasn’t quite as sophisticated as it is now imo.

Not that those weren’t really lousy picks. At least Stephens got a few years in with the Steelers and Bengals, I think Richardson was out of the league within a year or so of being drafted.
 
Courtney Brown was a stud that was hurt a ton as a pro. You have to call him a bust as a result but he was not a guy that showed up and did not belong. He just could not stay out of the trainer’s room after his rookie year. It unfortunately happens.

Chase Young has been excellent this entire year. Probably better than either Bosa was at OSU during their peak year. He had a bad game. It happens. I highly doubt he will be a bust or not be picked in the top 3.

Even Aaron Donald has bad games from time to time. It is why they look at the entire body of work, which in Young’s case is excellent.
 
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BFo8 said:
Jamain Stephens.

I give them a little more of a pass for those guys, scouting wasn’t quite as sophisticated as it is now imo.

Not that those weren’t really lousy picks. At least Stephens got a few years in with the Steelers and Bengals, I think Richardson was out of the league within a year or so of being drafted.
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Yeah I thought of both of them when I made my post but figured they were a good bit longer ago than recent past.
 
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BFo8 said:
Jamain Stephens.

I give them a little more of a pass for those guys, scouting wasn’t quite as sophisticated as it is now imo.

Not that those weren’t really lousy picks. At least Stephens got a few years in with the Steelers and Bengals, I think Richardson was out of the league within a year or so of being drafted.
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I think Cowher cut Richardson and he didn’t even make the squad.
 
TheSpecialSauce said:
I watched him quite a bit last night. He obviously is a very gifted player, but the LT for Clemson got the best of him. Young needs to work on his craft if he is going to be great at the next level. He used the same 1 or 2 moves, and Carman was ready for it all game.
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You and me both.. I'm not sure he's at Sheard's level..
 
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I will slightly agree with the premise he seemed to be overhyped. That said I think I only saw ohio state 3 times all year. His body looks too small for defensive end, but the NFL has changed in that regard. I could see him though as a outside linebacker racking up double digit sacks by being a primary pass rusher linebacker.

But again I didnt follow ohio state so I would say clearly the scouts putting him top 3 know more...
 
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