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NcNeese State Game & Other Dribbles ...

Yes because I am a fan of the program, an alumni, and a father of a soon to be freshman at Pitt and avid hoops fan. We only have projections to go by, as they’ve only played 11 games together.

What else do we have besides projections of freshmen? Why not be hopeful? If not hopeful projections, then what? Despair? No way.

Despair is what I’m experiencing when I read your, DTs Drivbles, whirli, JTPF, 85, NTOP, Levance and countless other posters who refuse to see barely any hope in the future. Yeah, this sucks compared to ‘09, but despairing about it every day does nobody any good, especially the kids.

If some dude's posts about the hoops team are causing you despair, you should consider reevaluating how much emotional investment you put in a game.
 
Yes because I am a fan of the program, an alumni, and a father of a soon to be freshman at Pitt and avid hoops fan. We only have projections to go by, as they’ve only played 11 games together.

What else do we have besides projections of freshmen? Why not be hopeful? If not hopeful projections, then what? Despair? No way.

Despair is what I’m experiencing when I read your, DTs Drivbles, whirli, JTPF, 85, NTOP, Levance and countless other posters who refuse to see barely any hope in the future. Yeah, this sucks compared to ‘09, but despairing about it every day does nobody any good, especially the kids.

Also, congrats on your soon to be freshman at Pitt.
 
I haven’t been local for over 6 years now and always hit this site the day after the game for the dribbles. I will miss the insight.

Be well.
 
So step up then. Let's see your post games dribbles!!!
I think we can have thoughtful, respectful and meaningful debate, if every discussion isn’t a referendum on the past and future of the program.

This whole thing started because whirli was comparing Carr’s freshman ability very negatively to Tra Holder of ASU as a senior, DT praised whirli for it and I voiced my disbelief. DT got upset, Bethlehem John voiced his opinion, which was counter to DT’s, and all hell broke loose.

Maybe we can have a try out for the new Dribbles.

I’ll call them Pot Shots. Cool?
 
I think we can have thoughtful, respectful and meaningful debate, if every discussion isn’t a referendum on the past and future of the program.

This whole thing started because whirli was comparing Carr’s freshman ability very negatively to Tra Holder of ASU as a senior, DT praised whirli for it and I voiced my disbelief. DT got upset, Bethlehem John voiced his opinion, which was counter to DT’s, and all hell broke loose.

Maybe we can have a try out for the new Dribbles.

I’ll call them Pot Shots. Cool?

Well, actually ... I didn't praise whirly, but instead just appreciated the perspective.

For what it's worth, the hell only broke loose when you said my opinions meant I was still pining for Dixon.

Anyway ... below is a link to a post I made after the Miami game in 2015. How is this so remarkably different from the things I've posted this year?

https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com/threads/miami-game-other-dribbles.5122/
 
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Also, congrats on your soon to be freshman at Pitt.
Thank you very much. We do disagree on some things, but not on every thing.

Your son is getting older, life is getting more complex, there are competing demands on our time, and things change. Some things suffer.

I hope nothing but the best for you, and look forward to seeing you on here in the future.

You can’t leave. You love it.

If you can’t be as positive about the Pitt Panther Basketball Team right now as you once were, I get it. You were the most positive fan possible on here. I’ll be positive for you and take the hits for it.

Hail to Pitt and good luck with your son’s team.
 
Thank you very much. We do disagree on some things, but not on every thing.

Your son is getting older, life is getting more complex, there are competing demands on our time, and things change. Some things suffer.

I hope nothing but the best for you, and look forward to seeing you on here in the future.

You can’t leave. You love it.

If you can’t be as positive about the Pitt Panther Basketball Team right now as you once were, I get it. You were the most positive fan possible on here. I’ll be positive for you and take the hits for it.

Hail to Pitt and good luck with your son’s team.

I'll still post here, and I honestly do appreciate your positive perspective. But I don't think it is truly accurate that I was the most positive fan on here ... as evidenced by the link I just referenced in another post.
 
Well, actually ... I didn't praise whirly, but instead just appreciated the perspective.

For what it's worth, the hell only broke loose when you said my opinions meant I was still pining for Dixon.

Anyway ... below is a link to a post I made after the Miami game in 2015. How is this so remarkably different from the things I've posted this year?

https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com/threads/miami-game-other-dribbles.5122/
I guess I incorrectly lumped you in with whirli and the boys. I’m sorry. To your other point. Those kids in ‘15 were not all freshmen and transfers playing together for the first time and in a completely new offensive and defensive system. That’s all I’m saying. Can’t we all just get along?
 
I'll still post here, and I honestly do appreciate your positive perspective. But I don't think it is truly accurate that I was the most positive fan on here ... as evidenced by the link I just referenced in another post.
In ‘09 you were!!!!! That’s indisputable. You were at the top of your game. It’s hard to see the light in such darkness. Winter is coming. Let’s all bring the light back to the Pete if we can.
 
I guess I incorrectly lumped you in with whirli and the boys. I’m sorry. To your other point. Those kids in ‘15 were not all freshmen and transfers playing together for the first time and in a completely new offensive and defensive system. That’s all I’m saying. Can’t we all just get along?

Your point comparing 15 to now has some logic to it. I'll be looking forward to seeing how our young players progress which will hopefully give nearly all of us a greater reason for optimism.
 
In ‘09 you were!!!!! That’s indisputable. You were at the top of your game. It’s hard to see the light in such darkness. Winter is coming. Let’s all bring the light back to the Pete if we can.

No doubt about it 09! It was pretty easy then though!

But I agree with the sentiments in your last line. Obviously, I'm just not the right person to lead that charge at this time. Here's to the light getting brighter!
 
*All the same, I was having an equally difficult time understanding just why we ended up taking 33 threes against a team as lowly as the Cowboys of the Southland Conference.

They were open shots, and freshmen Peace, Terrell and Sampson were no replacement for Ryan as you pointed out above.

I just think you, JTPF, whirly, NTOP, and the like are being overly critical, given the current circumstances, and it’s discoloring your view of everything Pitt Basketball, and it cannot have a positive effect in the program being so critical ALL THE TIME.

I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL TUESDAY AT 7:00! I hope many pitt fans are there with me.
Pay attention....I've not said anything bad about the kids....not a word. I hope they win every game. My discomfort is mainly directed at Barnes, Gallagher (2) and the jackals who have us saddled with a fluffy contract for a guy well past the prime of a pedestrian career. My OPINION is that Pitt needs to figure out a way to find a better option for next year & beyond.
 
No doubt about it 09! It was pretty easy then though!

But I agree with the sediments in your last line. Obviously, I'm just not the right person to lead that charge at this time. Here's to the light getting brighter!
Sediments?? Ohhhh, the Freudian beauty of that one!!
 
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Right. I think it's possible, not definite, but possible, that Carr could eventually become a star you can build a good, NCAA tournament level team around. But if he does turn out to be that guy then we still need another high level player to accompany that. That's what we're missing right now, and that seems to be what's missing from our current recruiting class. And it would be nice if we find that missing piece and he ends up being a big guy, because we could really use a good one of them.
Carr has a lot of tools. I think his turnovers are partly from the team just learning how to play together. If he puts on a few pounds of muscle, he'll be even better.
 
Well, actually ... I didn't praise whirly, but instead just appreciated the perspective.

For what it's worth, the hell only broke loose when you said my opinions meant I was still pining for Dixon.

Anyway ... below is a link to a post I made after the Miami game in 2015. How is this so remarkably different from the things I've posted this year?

https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com/threads/miami-game-other-dribbles.5122/
Looking at this thread, the board was quite different in 2015.
 
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Carr has a lot of tools. I think his turnovers are partly from the team just learning how to play together. If he puts on a few pounds of muscle, he'll be even better.
Bah Humbug!!!! Lol
 
Despair is what I’m experiencing when I read your, DTs Drivbles, whirli, JTPF, 85, NTOP, Levance and countless other posters who refuse to see barely any hope in the future.


I am certainly not despairing over Pitt basketball. I'm one of the fools (there can't be more than a couple hundred of us left at this point) who has been at every game so far this season. I'd love for this team to turn into much more than they have shown themselves to be at this point. But by the same token I don't feel the need to fool myself into thinking that we are on the cusp of something really good here and that all we need is a little time, as some people here surely think. That perspective is, quite frankly, silly. I've said similar things in the past, but if people don't like it when I point out that something they posted is silly the solution to that is to stop posting silly things.

I don't just throw negative comments out there to be negative. If I make a comment on someone's game I say why I think what I do. For instance I do not have the same hope for Parker Stewart that many others here do. But I don't ever just say "Parker Stewart sucks, he shouldn't even be playing" or something like that. I point out things like Stewart has not shot the ball well at all against the better teams we have played so far (limited sample size). And I worry that against better defenders and better defenses he's going to have a lot more trouble getting his shot off. And I've pointed out that he's having trouble guarding players on the teams we have played, which for the most part are a level or two (or more) lower than what we are going to be playing once conference play starts. Those are all negative comments about Stewart, but they are also all based on the actual facts of what has happened so far this season. And even with my general negative feelings about Stewart I also had a back and forth with Gary where I said it didn't make any sense to me that Stewart played so little in the game against High Point, when he had done some good things in the previous game against Lehigh.

I guess I just don't understand why some people seem to get their feelings hurt so easily when someone they don't know posts something on a (generally) anonymous internet message board that they don't like. If it really causes you despair to read something that I post about this basketball team, well, I just don't get that. Good god, this is all about a game! When the games, or the discussions of the games, start causing me the angst that they seem to cause some of the people here that's the day that I'll walk away from it all. This is supposed to be entertainment. When it stops being entertaining I'll find something else. I truly don't get why that isn't everyone's default position.
 
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