This bum is from N. Arizona, he has 2 losing records, and only made the NCAA once in 5 years. He is only 41 years old and has no HC experience at a big-time D1 school. Best of all his lead recruiter is some guy that has been an assistant at UC Santa Barbara, Hawaii, and N. Arizona. Neither of these guys has coached east of the Mississippi. What moron hired these guys? We are doomed.
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Pitt fans worried that lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place. (Scientifically, I don't think that is true. It is possible.)
Pitt in the 90's was a dumpster fire. Pitt in the 90's wasn't coming off of its best 15 year stretch in history. Pitt in the 90's wasn't coming even off a 4 year stretch where it went to the tournament 75% of the time. Pitt in the 90's hasn't just watched its winningest coach ever walk/be pushed out by donors.
This is like apples to pumpkins.
I remember the day when Ben Howland was hired. Mark Madden cut Pitt up about the hire and said good luck with that. He should stick to hockey. Zzzzzzz
It's hilarious how we've gone from "it won't be difficult to find a guy to do what Dixon's been doing recently" to "don't hate all of these candidates, you never know if you might catch lightning in a bottle again".
Pitt's penchant for not being able to get out of its own way is amazing.
Pitt's penchant for not being able to get out of its own way is amazing.
How long has been since Dixon too the TCU job? 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a month? I would rather spend an extra 10 days getting the right guy for the next 4+ years as opposed to rushing to hire the wrong guy.
No I agree, I'd prefer a good fit, but we were all convinced we'd absolutely attract a good coach and not miss a beat. And now people are talking rebuilds and catching lightning in a bottle. It's a stark difference.
Unless Sean Miller doubles back and decides to come here, we'll be doing a lot of finger crossing going forward.
No - u are. It has been less than a week. Some of the candidates are still coaching. If we do not have a coach by early April, then u and the rest can start to worry. A lot of action takes place during the Final 4.
-IF Keatts get the job, you can expect a pretty stacked recruiting class next year at the least. That should be enough to get everyone excited after the recruiting classes this program has been getting the last several years.
The classes these last several years have, without exception, been better than the 2009-2012 classes that were some of the best Pitt's ever had on paper.
Excuse me for not giving a flying F about how our classes will look on paper.
Correct about the Final Four. And if Richie Walsh hadn't jumped the gun, perhaps that's when we might have been talking to Sean Miller.
But there really IS a search firm vetting candidates. Let's give this a little time.
-Care to list out the NBA players from Pitt the last 5 years? The Top 100 kids? The Mcdonald All Americans? How about true athletic ability in general?
People need to have some faith and let the AD do his job in order to get the best coach that fits our program.
I mean, the last 5 years you're getting into the 2011 and 2012 recruiting years, which were great on paper.
Top 100 per RSCI you had Khem Birch, Malcolm Gilbert, Durand Johnson, James Robinson, Steven Adams, Michael Young, Damon Wilson.
Birch was the lone McDonald's All-American because Adams was ineligible (he was technically a postgraduate during his semester at ND Prep, and 5th year players aren't allowed).
Adams and Patterson went to the NBA.
Overall I haven't minded the athleticism. It's probably around the same level it was previously.
I think the much maligned 2014 class of Cam Johnson, Sheldon Jeter, and Ryan Luther is significantly better than the 2010 and 2011 classes -- 2 of the more decorated classes Pitt has had.
The problem with Pittsburgh is it has no idea what it's looking at on the court, and just relies on recruiting stars to tell it who has talent and who doesn't. It's why you had people calling Ryan Luther the worst scholarship player ever at Pitt, and proclaiming the offense to be the best in the nation because it was lighting up Cornell, Eastern Washington, and Central Arkansas.
There is a clear point to the post, and nobody is forcing u to read or respond to it.
If it wasn't it would make the whole concept of the lightning rod to be rather odd, no?
No, you are absolutely missing the point. Unless mark few is the candidate still coaching, it is a CLEAR crapshoot.
I remember when Madden actually apologized to Howland (much later) during an on-air interview with him.
I said this early last year- Cam Johnson is the most skilled and talented player not named Artis on Pitt's roster.
Luther and Jeter are solid role and bench players. Honestly, that's a problem in the grand scheme of things.
When that's your best recent class you need to reconsider your approach to recruiting.
Luther and Jeter are solid role and bench players. Honestly, that's a problem in the grand scheme of things.
When that's your best recent class you need to reconsider your approach to recruiting.
Steven Adams OKC, Lamar Patterson Hawks, Talib Zanna D league all star and a freakishly good athlete. Khem Birch.
Jeter is very athletic, as is Artis.
Look we get it...you don't like Dixon. Guess what...he not here anymore so just shut up about it
I don't know if I'd go THAT far calling it the best recent class. 2013 produced Artis and Young. 2015 just had their first year on campus.
The much maligned 2014 class is better than 2010 and 2011. I don't know that I would go much further than that with how early so many of these guys are in their careers.
It would be oh so wonderful if you could craw back into whatever pumpkin that you crawled out of...
I'm not sure Mike Young is any better than Jeter. Mike tends to go MIA and becomes a turnover machine against better competition.
You can project Cam to be as effective as Artis; call Young and Jeter a wash; then you have Luther. That might be the best recent class but there's 3 more years before anyone will know.
You can project Cam to be as effective as Artis; call Young and Jeter a wash; then you have Luther. That might be the best recent class but there's 3 more years before anyone will know.
We have a coaching vacancy and you put new coach hired. You knew what you were doing.
I 100% agree with that. End of the day, it might be really good. I wouldn't call it the best NOW, but I could see us looking back in the future and being really happy with how Johnson, Jeter, and Luther turned out.
