New UAB stadium

[HailtoPitt]

Pitt has played at Heinz Field for 19 seasons, not 20. In those 19 seasons Pitt is 135-105, a .563 winning percentage. In Pitt's last 19 seasons at Pitt Stadium Pitt was 101-109-6, a .481 winning percentage.

The notion that winning 48% of your games is better than winning 56% of your games is exactly the sort of thing that led me to call you stupid. And of course it once again shows that you simply do not know the history that you claim to be quoting.

But wait, maybe you just mean conference games. Well, we were only in a conference for the last nine years of Pitt Stadium, but during that time we compiled a smokin' .293 winning percentage. At Heinz Field that percentage is .576. Once again, one of those is clearly better than the other. Not the one you think though.

You know just as well as anyone the Pitt allowed the program to slip into disarray during much if the 90s. Using those years are simply not an accurate perception of the program's success in the late 70s and 80s. Pitt demonstrated that they can reach the top of the ladder in Oakland, and have not been able to even come close to showing that at HF.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

You know just as well as anyone the Pitt allowed the program to slip into disarray during much if the 90s. Using those years are simply not an accurate perception of the program's success in the late 70s and 80s. Pitt demonstrated that they can reach the top of the ladder in Oakland, and have not been able to even come close to showing that at HF.

So-
Oakland , colors , and font aren’t just magic ?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

You know just as well as anyone the Pitt allowed the program to slip into disarray during much if the 90s. Using those years are simply not an accurate perception of the program's success in the late 70s and 80s. Pitt demonstrated that they can reach the top of the ladder in Oakland, and have not been able to even come close to showing that at HF.

Once again, you get it exactly backwards. 1976-1981 is the outlier, not the rest of the 80s, the 90s, the first half of the 70s, the 60s, the 50s and the 40s. We've had 80 years of mostly mediocre (at best) football interrupted by a (singular) short span of excellence.

What I know just as well as the people with even half a brain is that Pitt was more successful in the 19 seasons at Heinz than the last 19 seasons at Pitt Stadium. And almost any other 19 year span in that time, with the exception of those six season. But you keep burying your head in the sand and pretending that if we just played football in Oakland all of our problems would magically be solved.

 

[HailtoPitt]

So-
Oakland , colors , and font aren’t just magic ?

The colors and the script are steps in the right direction. If those things don't matter, then what was the point of Steve making a change in the first placr.?

 

[pittdan77]

From what I'm hearing a new on-campus stadium is far from a fantasy, and there have been serious discussions behind the scenes. Also hearing that the Steelers want a new stadium not shared by Pitt, and the Rooneys are prepared to write a hefty check to Pitt toward Pitt's new stadium if necessary. I trust my sources on this.

Does your source have site plans that were made with MS Paint?

 

[HailtoPitt]

Once again, you get it exactly backwards. 1976-1981 is the outlier, not the rest of the 80s, the 90s, the first half of the 70s, the 60s, the 50s and the 40s. We've had 80 years of mostly mediocre (at best) football interrupted by a (singular) short span of excellence.

What I know just as well as the people with even half a brain is that Pitt was more successful in the 19 seasons at Heinz than the last 19 seasons at Pitt Stadium. And almost any other 19 year span in that time, with the exception of those six season. But you keep burying your head in the sand and pretending that if we just played football in Oakland all of our problems would magically be solved.

And again, Pitt pretty much sanctioned themselves, which is how they went from 12-0 and 11-1 to 2-9. You choose to view those years as evidence for why Pitt Stadium wasn't working out when in fact we have evidence to the contuary.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

If those things don't matter, then what was the point of Steve making a change in the first placr.?

Because he was an egomaniac who wanted to do things his own way.

We won't win one more football game with these colors than we would have with the old ones, and we won't win one more football game because we use a script font rather than a block font. Because at the end of the day that stuff is immaterial.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

And again, Pitt pretty much sanctioned themselves, which is how they went from 12-0 and 11-1 to 2-9. You choose to view those years as evidence for why Pitt Stadium wasn't working out when in fact we have evidence to the contuary.

We have a very long history of evidence on my side, and a six year outlier as the evidence on your side. Six decades versus six years, which carries more weight? I mean to someone with the ability to think logically.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

We have a very long history of evidence on my side, and a six year outlier as the evidence on your side. Six decades versus six years, which carries more weight? I mean to someone with the ability to think logically.

Just for kicks, take out the outliers. 76-81 and 91-97 where we didnt even try to have a competitive team.

 

[Ski11585]

So basically @HailtoPitt is arguing that the 20 years prior to HF are better than the 20 years after if you totally ignore the 20 years prior? Cool.

Almost as well reasoned and logical as his whining about The Last Jedi.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Just for kicks, take out the outliers. 76-81 and 91-97 where we didnt even try to have a competitive team.

OK, so then you are comparing the 40s, the 50s the 60s, the first half of the 70s, and most of the 80s when we were generally worse than mediocre to, well, nothing. Nothing at all. There were no "good stretches" at Pitt Stadium from the late 30s until the end if you take out 76-81. Heinz has produced vastly more winning football than that.


Which anyone who actually knows Pitt history already knows.

 

[PantherO]

I get it. Pitt and the handful of other schools that play off campus are smarter than all the other schools that feel an on campus stadium is important.

 

[HailtoPitt]

I get it. Pitt and the handful of other schools that play off campus are smarter than all the other schools that feel an on campus stadium is important.

Yep.