New US News rankings (2023); Pitt drops 4 spots

CrazyPaco

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[Edited to add individual program rankings]

Among National Universities, Pitt ranked #62 (#23rd among public), down from 59th last year and 58th the year prior to that.

Undergrad business is ranked 34th (23rd public), up 15 spots from last year, and perhaps its highest ranking ever (was ranked 38th two years ago).

Undergrad engineering is ranked 54th, up two spots from last year. Was 53rd two years ago.
Biomedical engineering was ranked 25th.

Undergrad computer science is also ranked 54th, up six spots from last year. Was 53rd two years ago.

Undergrad nursing is ranked 15th, down 8 spots from last year (which was the debut of the ranking)

Pitt is ranked #39 nationally, among all colleges and universities, for undergrad research or creative work.

Pitt was ranked 34th for veterans.

National Universities: ACC, PA, and other notables:

1. Princeton
7. Penn
10. Duke
18. Notre Dame

22. Carnegie Mellon
25. Virginia
29. North Carolina
29. Wake Forest
36. Boston College
44. Georgia Tech

51. Lehigh
51. Villanova
55. Florida State
55. Miami
62. PITT
62. Syracuse
62. Virginia Tech
72. NC State
77. Clemson

77. Penn State
105. Drexel
121. Temple
127. Thomas Jefferson
151. Duquesne
182. Louisville
194. Chatham
194. Robert Morris
202. La Salle
219. Misericordia
219. Widener
234. West Virginia
234. Wilkes
250. Immaculata
250. West Chester
263. Gannon
263. Point Park
285. DeSales
317. Alvernia
331-440: Gwynedd Mercy
331-440: IUP

Among Northern regional colleges:
Pitt-Johnstown ranked #27, up one spot from last year.
Pitt-Bradford ranked #29, down 11 spots from last year.


Link to last year's thread for comparison: https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.co...itt-down-one-spot-still-top-20-public.192986/
 
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Worth noting that because of the way the rankings are structured, with so many schools being tied for spots, a rise or fall of ~5 spots or less is basically “no change.”
 
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feel like it's the same since we're tied with a bunch of others. PSU fell so that's good news.
 

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Among National Universities, Pitt ranked #62 (#23rd among public), down from 59th last year and 58th the year prior to that.

ACC, PA, and other notables:

1. Princeton
7. Penn
10. Duke
18. Notre Dame

22. Carnegie Mellon
25. Virginia
29. North Carolina
29. Wake Forest
36. Boston College
44. Georgia Tech

51. Lehigh
51. Villanova
55. Florida State
55. Miami
62. PITT
62. Syracuse
62. Virginia Tech
72. NC State
77. Clemson

77. Penn State
105. Drexel
121. Temple
127. Thomas Jefferson
151. Duquesne
182. Louisville
194. Chatham
194. Robert Morris
202. La Salle
219. Misericordia
219. Widener
234. West Virginia
234. Wilkes
250. Immaculata
250. West Chester
263. Gannon
263. Point Park
285. DeSales
317. Alvernia
331-440: Gwynedd Mercy
331-440: IUP

Among Northern regional colleges:
Pitt-Johnstown ranked #27
Pitt-Bradford ranked #29


Link to last year's thread for comparison: https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.co...itt-down-one-spot-still-top-20-public.192986/
Surprised TJ is 127 but they did build that new HS
 

CrazyPaco

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Worth noting that because of the way the rankings are structured, with so many schools being tied for spots, a rise or fall of ~5 spots or less is basically “no change.”
For sure there's a lot of wobble from year to year. Trends can be more telling than any one year snap shot.

Schools that moved ahead of Pitt:
Washington, Maryland, Rutgers

Schools that moved into a tie with Pitt:
Minnesota, George Washington, Virginia Tech

Schools tied with Pitt last year and this year: Syracuse

IMO, Pitt should be in the top 50.
 
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pittchagg

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For sure there's a lot of wobble from year to year. Trends can be telling than any one year snap shot.

Schools that moved ahead of Pitt:
Washington, Maryland, Rutgers

Schools that moved into a tie with Pitt:
Minnesota, George Washington, Virginia Tech

Schools tied with Pitt last year and this year: Syracuse

IMO, Pitt should be in the top 50.
I agree with all of that. I do think that Pitt has a pretty firm ceiling on its ranking under the current methodology just because of the very high cost of in-state tuition. Until that problem is remedied (and I think Pitt has done a ton of good stuff to be creative with financial aid over the past few years), I think there’s only so high Pitt can be in these rankings.
 

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For sure there's a lot of wobble from year to year. Trends can be telling than any one year snap shot.

Schools that moved ahead of Pitt:
Washington, Maryland, Rutgers

Schools that moved into a tie with Pitt:
Minnesota, George Washington, Virginia Tech

Schools tied with Pitt last year and this year: Syracuse

IMO, Pitt should be in the top 50.
Thats bc its so damn expensive to go to school to Pitt. Its ridiculous IMO compared to other states and their universities
 

HailtoPitt

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On campus football stadium is a factor for this list. If Pitt would build one they'd move up 10 spots automatically.
 

CrazyPaco

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I agree with all of that. I do think that Pitt has a pretty firm ceiling on its ranking under the current methodology just because of the very high cost of in-state tuition. Until that problem is remedied (and I think Pitt has done a ton of good stuff to be creative with financial aid over the past few years), I think there’s only so high Pitt can be in these rankings.
Pitt's undergrad ratings are disconnected from its research (top 15) and professional (med & health sciences) school reputations in a way that perhaps no other universities are. It rank, IMO, should really should be in the 40s. But you see that better reflected in its US News undergrad research ranking (#39 among not just national universities, but all colleges and universities). Those opportunities may be way more important than anything else, in STEM fields at least, and there are only a handful of schools that match what Pitt has to offer there with all the research done in the immediate vicinity of campus.

Cost has been a huge priority for Pitt's leadership. However, the lack of state support for a public research universities in PA is a big issue that is largely out of its hands. In out-of-state cost, it is quite competitive. It's alumni giving rate is also below muster compared to peers. It's must keep improving its 6 year grad rate as well.
 
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Rutgers above us? Rutgers above ANYONE? Not solely because of their d-bag football fans, but has anyone or anything of relevance come from Rutgers? Or is this a popular vote and the B1G people do what they do best and flood the system with votes?
 

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Among National Universities, Pitt ranked #62 (#23rd among public), down from 59th last year and 58th the year prior to that.

Undergrad engineering is ranked 54th, up two spots from last year.

Undergrad nursing is ranked 15th, down 8 spots from last year (which was the debut of the ranking)

Pitt is ranked #39 nationally, among all colleges and universities, for undergrad research or creative work.

National Universities: ACC, PA, and other notables:

1. Princeton
7. Penn
10. Duke
18. Notre Dame

22. Carnegie Mellon
25. Virginia
29. North Carolina
29. Wake Forest
36. Boston College
44. Georgia Tech

51. Lehigh
51. Villanova
55. Florida State
55. Miami
62. PITT
62. Syracuse
62. Virginia Tech
72. NC State
77. Clemson

77. Penn State
105. Drexel
121. Temple
127. Thomas Jefferson
151. Duquesne
182. Louisville
194. Chatham
194. Robert Morris
202. La Salle
219. Misericordia
219. Widener
234. West Virginia
234. Wilkes
250. Immaculata
250. West Chester
263. Gannon
263. Point Park
285. DeSales
317. Alvernia
331-440: Gwynedd Mercy
331-440: IUP

Among Northern regional colleges:
Pitt-Johnstown ranked #27, up one spot from last year.
Pitt-Bradford ranked #29, down 11 spots from last year.


Link to last year's thread for comparison: https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.co...itt-down-one-spot-still-top-20-public.192986/
 

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Among National Universities, Pitt ranked #62 (#23rd among public), down from 59th last year and 58th the year prior to that.

Undergrad engineering is ranked 54th, up two spots from last year.

Undergrad nursing is ranked 15th, down 8 spots from last year (which was the debut of the ranking)

Pitt is ranked #39 nationally, among all colleges and universities, for undergrad research or creative work.

National Universities: ACC, PA, and other notables:

1. Princeton
7. Penn
10. Duke
18. Notre Dame

22. Carnegie Mellon
25. Virginia
29. North Carolina
29. Wake Forest
36. Boston College
44. Georgia Tech

51. Lehigh
51. Villanova
55. Florida State
55. Miami
62. PITT
62. Syracuse
62. Virginia Tech
72. NC State
77. Clemson

77. Penn State
105. Drexel
121. Temple
127. Thomas Jefferson
151. Duquesne
182. Louisville
194. Chatham
194. Robert Morris
202. La Salle
219. Misericordia
219. Widener
234. West Virginia
234. Wilkes
250. Immaculata
250. West Chester
263. Gannon
263. Point Park
285. DeSales
317. Alvernia
331-440: Gwynedd Mercy
331-440: IUP

Among Northern regional colleges:
Pitt-Johnstown ranked #27, up one spot from last year.
Pitt-Bradford ranked #29, down 11 spots from last year.


Link to last year's thread for comparison: https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.co...itt-down-one-spot-still-top-20-public.192986/
I dont see Penn West or Chik Fil A