No Hurley?

[Sean Miller Fan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CoachingChanges

This sometimes has good info, sometimes not. Says Hurley would only leave this time for Xavier if Mack leaves. Xavier can pay as much as UConn and Pitt and Big East is a simple path to March

 

[PittAU]

This was down a bit deeper in the link.....


Coaching Changes

@CoachingChanges
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Lots of Pittsburgh talk in the DMs, what we will say
1) Hurley is not taking it
2) Miller is a real possible
3) 4 foot Muss people have been contacted
4) Nate Oats is also on the board as possible

Thad Matta not taking it either

 

[pittfanfromNC]

Has 7k followers. Hard to believe this guy has some inside info on Hurley's camp

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Has 7k followers. Hard to believe this guy has some inside info on Hurley's camp

Its run by a few different people. They do have some connections and do report some good stuff but its hit or miss. I can very very easily see him Xavier over Pitt and UConn though. Xavier is a fantastic job. Good money and easy league (they are the #2 program in a league that provides a great RPI but really isnt that good.

 

[PittMan 72]

I suppose any HC can decide that making $1.5 to $2 million more in compensation for the 2018-2019 season than he is right now isn't worth it. But would surmise that most coaches - especially those below the P5 + 1 level - that have an opportunity to cash in would not take that approach. However it's up to the individual.

Any college HC that is interested in ascending to the top level group of HC's in terms of compensation has to determine their value right now as compared to where it could be headed: up or down. For some, their stock may well be higher right now than it would be for the next several years. Or ever. A lot can depend on the roster that is coming back and how many key pieces will be leaving. A bad season or 2 can derail plans.

In Hurley's case, he may well be content to stay as the big fish in the little pond. If he does, he'll be compensated relative to that. Maybe he'll have another chance to make a millio (or millions) a year more?Maybe he won't.

 

[Gep Dawg]

He/She dismissed the idea that making more money being Pitt's head coach is negated because they would have to live in Pittsburgh. I am from Philly and live in Philly now. But I love Pittsburgh i\and its an awesome city and a great place to live. Plus the cost of living is less which means making $3 million a year in Pittsburgh is more like making $5 million a year in CT or Rhode Island.

So this person has no idea what they are talking about and should not be taken seriously.

 

[pittzap]

He/She wrote that even though its more money the person who caoches Pitt would have to live there. I am from Philly and live in Philly now. But Pittsburgh is an awesome city and a great place to live. Plus the cost of living is less which means making $3 million a year in Pittsburgh is more like making $5 million a year in CT or Rhode Island. So this person has no idea what they are talking about

I also find it hard to believe that Hurley would be scared of competition or would try to take the easy route to the NCAA tourney. If that's the case, why not stay at RI? He has a good class coming in.

 

[Jpripper88]

I suppose any HC can decide that making $1.5 to $2 million more in compensation for the 2018-2019 season than he is right now isn't worth it. But would surmise that most coaches - especially those below the P5 + 1 level - that have an opportunity to cash in would not take that approach. However it's up to the individual.

Any college HC that is interested in ascending to the top level group of HC's in terms of compensation has to determine their value right now as compared to where it could be headed: up or down. For some, their stock may well be higher right now than it would be for the next several years. Or ever. A lot can depend on the roster that is coming back and how many key pieces will be leaving. A bad season or 2 can derail plans.

In Hurley's case, he may well be content to stay as the big fish in the little pond. If he does, he'll be compensated relative to that. Maybe he'll have another chance to make a millio (or millions) a year more?Maybe he won't.

And RI loses almost its entire rotation for next year, so he is in jeopardy of a slip next year. It probably wouldn't hurt him much for one year, but if something happened to push that into a 2nd year...

 

[PerchMan]

I refuse to believe that the Pitt AD/Admin is leaking out information to anonymous jabronis for them to Tweet. They are making guesses just like I am.

 

[PittMan 72]

I refuse to believe that the Pitt AD/Admin is leaking out information to anonymous jabronis for them to Tweet. They are making guesses just like I am.

Pretty confident that any and all info is coming from the candidates' side; not from anyone directly associated with the HC search on Pitt's side.

And a lot of the stuff coming from the candidates' side is posturing and gamesmanship through agents or intermediaries designed to enhance their particular Guy's position.

In other words, take this stuff FWIW: pretty much for amusement and entertainment. Until Pitt comes out with something from an official source, it's all speculation. It's Pitt's hire and Pitt's money.

 

[PerchMan]

Pretty confident that any and all info is coming from the candidates' side; not from anyone directly associated with the HC search on Pitt's side.

And a lot of the stuff coming from the candidates' side is posturing and gamesmanship through agents or intermediaries designed to enhance their particular Guy's position.

In other words, take this stuff FWIW: pretty much for amusement and entertainment. Until Pitt comes out with something from an official source, it's all speculation. It's Pitt's hire and Pitt's money.

Right on, and that's even a big *IF* it is coming from the candidates' side. You see around here how many numbskulls have nothing better to do than to make fake identities and come on here to make fun of attendance or whatever. Too much effort for me to do that for no gain. lol. I wouldn't think doing something ridiculous like that would be hard to do in Twitter land. I think it's all bunk. Zeise said in 2016 something about coaching searches are all lies until someone is announced.

 

[PittMan 72]

Right on, and that's even a big *IF* it is coming from the candidates' side. You see around here how many numbskulls have nothing better to do than to make fake identities and come on here to make fun of attendance or whatever. Too much effort for me to do that for no gain. lol. I wouldn't think doing something ridiculous like that would be hard to do in Twitter land. I think it's all bunk. Zeise said in 2016 something about coaching searches are all lies until someone is announced.

For sure. A lot of the stuff being passed on as "updates" is pure made-up BS. Just saying that anything that may be at least somewhat legit regarding the Pitt HC search is coming from the candidates' side.

Pitt's not divulging a thing. There is ZERO benefit to Pitt to do so. They'll let everyone know when they have a coach hired. For fans, it can be fun to try to read the tea leaves. But good luck trying to determine fact from fiction.

 

[BFo8]

I also find it hard to believe that Hurley would be scared of competition or would try to take the easy route to the NCAA tourney. If that's the case, why not stay at RI? He has a good class coming in.

Totally agree, that “easier path” stuff is dumb.

I have never, ever, ever, heard a coach in any sport say anything about choosing a job because the conference was weaker. These guys want to compete against and beat the best, they are all alpha dog types. Only fans buy into the easier path thing.

 

[Atch]

He/She dismissed the idea that making more money being Pitt's head coach is negated because they would have to live in Pittsburgh. I am from Philly and live in Philly now. But I love Pittsburgh i\and its an awesome city and a great place to live. Plus the cost of living is less which means making $3 million a year in Pittsburgh is more like making $5 million a year in CT or Rhode Island.

So this person has no idea what they are talking about and should not be taken seriously.

I could live very comfortably on 3 mil, anywhere.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

The taxes and cost of living stuff doesn't matter once you're going to make 12-15 million dollars over the life of a contract or 50-100 million over a career. The money matters at that point because you want to prove your value by comparing yourself to other coaches. It's symbolic money more than real money, which is why we don't see a trend of coaches rushing off to low tax states. They'd rather get the larger total amount on the record to show how great they are.

 

[CJsE]

the handle also has "insiders" saying Hurley is going to UConn and Hurley is definitely not going to UConn. They make 50 predictions a day then claim omniscience when they get one right. They have already "heard" about Matta to multiple schools, including Georgia. They went so far as to name the assistants that will be joining him on the Georgia staff.

 

[rmf05]

The cost of living in PGH has caught up with the rest of the country over the past 10-15 years. In 2000 it was something ridiculous like 75% of the national average. Now it is above 95% and those calculations don't normally add taxes which are above average in AGH/PA. Overall, Pittsburgh isn't a deal anymore. Of course, NE and the Bos-Wsh Corridor are still higher by a decent margin.

 

[pittzap]

It has been amazingly quiet on Pitt's end. My buddy works with a BOT member and even he is saying Lyke is keeping it close to the vest. She doesn't want things out there, as this is a huge hire.

I can't get any info. Even though I can only sometimes just get snippets, this was the guy who told me Pitt was going to the ACC a few days before it was announced.

 

[PittHOFs]

Pull the plug??? lol!!

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

If you're going to make $3 million a year as a local celebrity (that's what coaches are now), you don't pull out a calculator to figure out the best bang for your buck. You talk to your wife, you talk to the athletic directors, and you go where you want to live and coach.

 

[PerchMan]

There is no way a Hurley or Musselman is going to leave there Job to come to this train wreck left by the last 5 years of the Dixon/Stallings era. This program is on Life Support and it might be time to pull the plug...

Here we go. See above statement.

 

[hoopsguy72]

It has been amazingly quiet on Pitt's end. My buddy works with a BOT member and even he is saying Lyke is keeping it close to the vest. She doesn't want things out there, as this is a huge hire.

I can't get any info. Even though I can only sometimes just get snippets, this was the guy who told me Pitt was going to the ACC a few days before it was announced.

Ditto. I have a source who typically has good inside info (I knew about the players' meeting and releases before it was posted by here on the Lair), and they've heard nothing. Not even a hint. An athletic department official told them that they'd be "shocked" if a coach wasn't in place by the end of this week, but that's hardly inside info. I think most of us already assumed that.

So, not very revealing. I did hear that info on Friday, however, before the weekend's games, so if there's any chance Musselman is a candidate, that could change the timeline Will be interesting to see things play out.

I'm pulling hard for Musselman. I was in the Hurley camp previously, but I'm now fully Team Musselman. He's got three grad transfers and could transform Pitt immediately, as in bubble team next year. The longer we wait for a hire, the more encouraged I am about possibility of Musselman. However, I think he's going to really be in demand. I speculated in another thread that if I were a betting man, I'd put a small wager on 'Zona firing Miller and offering Musselman.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

the handle also has "insiders" saying Hurley is going to UConn and Hurley is definitely not going to UConn. They make 50 predictions a day then claim omniscience when they get one right. They have already "heard" about Matta to multiple schools, including Georgia. They went so far as to name the assistants that will be joining him on the Georgia staff.

Reminds one of a certain someone around here, doesn't it?

 

[levance2]

Reminds one of a certain someone around here, doesn't it?

I thought the same thing.

 

[GomerTV]

Reports have him to UCONN

 

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[DC_Area_Panther]

IMO--I didn't and don't think Hurley is a good match for Pitt. He is no doubt a very good coach. However, all his recruiting ties are in the Northeast which makes UConn a better match for him. We need someone who can and will recruit well in the midwest and in the mid-atlantic region plus spot recruiting PA west of Philly.