No more road games @Akron
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no more home games vs akron either
find another P5 non-con opponent who wants to do a home and home
i dont care if its some bottom feeder P5 team as long as its a P5 team
find another P5 non-con opponent who wants to do a home and home
i dont care if its some bottom feeder P5 team as long as its a P5 team
I'd try army and navy for these kinds of games (although navy nearly impossible now because they joined that stupid conf)
I prefer PENN STATE, WVU, AND NOTRE DAME every year but that will not always be possible except maybe with WVU?
Therefore, after those three, we have to look to at a One National Team from SEC, PAC-12, one Big Ten or Big-12. In those Conferences if we cannot play PENN STATE and WVU every year. I have a preference for the combination of these Teams.
NON-POWER CONFERNCE:
TEMPLE
NAVY
ARMY
MARSHALL
SMU
NON-FBS:
PENN
HARVARD OR ANY IVY
YSU
GRAMBLING
SAINT FRANCIS
DUQUESNE
BIG-12:
WVU
KSU
TEXAS
IOWA STATE
OU
BIG TEN:
PENN STATE
IOWA
UMD
WISCONSIN
MSU
PAC-12:
ARIZONA
USC
STANFORD
ASU
COLORADO
SEC:
VANDERBILT
UTENN
A&M
KENTUCKY
AUBURN
Therefore, after those three, we have to look to at a One National Team from SEC, PAC-12, one Big Ten or Big-12. In those Conferences if we cannot play PENN STATE and WVU every year. I have a preference for the combination of these Teams.
NON-POWER CONFERNCE:
TEMPLE
NAVY
ARMY
MARSHALL
SMU
NON-FBS:
PENN
HARVARD OR ANY IVY
YSU
GRAMBLING
SAINT FRANCIS
DUQUESNE
BIG-12:
WVU
KSU
TEXAS
IOWA STATE
OU
BIG TEN:
PENN STATE
IOWA
UMD
WISCONSIN
MSU
PAC-12:
ARIZONA
USC
STANFORD
ASU
COLORADO
SEC:
VANDERBILT
UTENN
A&M
KENTUCKY
AUBURN
I think until we ever win the ACC or at least the Coastal, we should have a schedule like this year, which is 1-AA, Non power 5, power 5, then either a break, ND during the season, or another power 5 then start the season. As to playing away at Akron or any MAC team, this is going to happen until Pitt draws better. MAC teams who do one and done command 1 million bucks. We cannot do this. Playing away at Akron or Ohio is not far. Would be nice not to do it, but we need better attendance. As noted, Navy is almost impossible, now that they play ND, Army, and Air Force out of conference, which leaves 1 opening. Maybe Army or Air Force would be a possibility,
I vote no road trips to non power 5 schools and no games against FCS teams. In the case of the FCS, it's a no win. 2012 we lose to Youngstown - embarassing, 2004 need OT to beat Furman when Palko was playing out of his mind that day and later took us to Fiesta Bowl, 2015 we lose Conner for the season and win by 8 with ollison going for over 200 yds. I actually don't even think that the score of this years game should upset us fans, a win is a win. I'm just saying even though it was only by 8 if Conner doesn't play and Ollison was in from the get-go you'd have to think it would have been the same result. But it is still a game so you can't just sit your starters that would be incredibly dumb. There in case lies the no-win situation in these games.
Unfortunately for you, your vote doesn't count in the reality of college football circa 2015.
Well the ACC isn't the B1G. It is very balanced in the Coastal. No brutal opponents and no doormats.
I don't mind playing Akron on the road. MSU and ok state played at Mac schools to open the season. What bothers me was that it was a one for one. I am guessing those other schools were 2-1 deals. I'd be fine with 2 for 1 deal with any MAC team that is an easy one day trip from pittsburgh.
Should Notre Dame, BYU and Army be Independents, with the State of College Football today? My suggestion would be no ... join a conference.
Last Sunday, the announcers mentioned that Marshall requires a Home and Home. Purdue @ Marshall was a recent example.
Oklahoma State opened the season @ Central Michigan, another MAC opponent.
Akron won last year at Pitt and Toledo won this year a Top 20 Arkansas, so the road may be a better place, at certain times.
fwiw
We do that model now. In a perfect world, ACC grows a sack and does 9 conference games and we do 2 P5 games and Non Power 5 D1 team.. But in the meantime, we have to scratch that FBS scrimmage and schedule a entertaining, stronger, Non P5 team (Think USF or something out west, Col. state, Fresno, BYU..
Future schedules include Richmond and something else just as bad. We Really need to get out of that hot mess.. It's possible, buy em out, tell em no thanks, whatever.. A game with Richmond will literally get 32 people. There will be more people on the field than in the stands..
No, no it doesn't. Lol maybe vote was the wrong word. But i don't think there's anyone here that wants Youngstown on the schedule year in, year out.
It's this type of loser mentality that will keep pitt on espn3 in front of 751 people.. Keep telling yourself these games makes pitt look good..
1) I don't mind doing those trips every so often. If it wasn't for the rain, it would have been a nice trip.
2) With the recent conference shifting and realignment mess in the past, this 1 for 1 trip had to be done. It was mentioned numerous times. Pitt had to fill out the schedule last minute and this was a situation that worked.
3) NO FCS teams. I do agree with that.
4) I don't mind doing home and home with some of the more "established" if you will Group of 5 schools. Cincy, UConn, Houston, BYU, etc, etc. Heck, some of them are better than current P5 schools. I'd rather have a home and home with Houston instead of Kansas.
5) Going forward, if we can have 1 of PSU and/or WVU on the schedule every year, 1 other P5 team, 2 group of 5 teams, then I'll be happy. I don't want to do what UVA is doing and schedule 3 top 25 teams to start the year and go 0-3.
2) With the recent conference shifting and realignment mess in the past, this 1 for 1 trip had to be done. It was mentioned numerous times. Pitt had to fill out the schedule last minute and this was a situation that worked.
3) NO FCS teams. I do agree with that.
4) I don't mind doing home and home with some of the more "established" if you will Group of 5 schools. Cincy, UConn, Houston, BYU, etc, etc. Heck, some of them are better than current P5 schools. I'd rather have a home and home with Houston instead of Kansas.
5) Going forward, if we can have 1 of PSU and/or WVU on the schedule every year, 1 other P5 team, 2 group of 5 teams, then I'll be happy. I don't want to do what UVA is doing and schedule 3 top 25 teams to start the year and go 0-3.
Scheduling doormats? Whatever thats fine, but schedule them at home. And PLEASE!!! schedule the PSU type doormats like Buffalo. Seriously playing Youngstown is a no win situation.
We lost to YSU one year, which should have never happened. Every other time we've played a 1-AA/FCS team we've won, but every single time our fans are not impressed and say it was a bad win. And as I said earlier, every game has to be taken seriously but when you see James Conner go down for the year in a game we would've won without him, it's just upsetting we couldn't have at least played a bad FBS school instead.
We lost to YSU one year, which should have never happened. Every other time we've played a 1-AA/FCS team we've won, but every single time our fans are not impressed and say it was a bad win. And as I said earlier, every game has to be taken seriously but when you see James Conner go down for the year in a game we would've won without him, it's just upsetting we couldn't have at least played a bad FBS school instead.
loser mentality?? I am looking to schedule 9-10 wins every year, so I have a winning mentality....
Casual Pittsburgh college football fans don't know the difference between South Florida, Fresno State, Colorado State, or Akron, Army, Wake Forrest!
There are very few programs that, if scheduled by Pitt, would actually draw more fans! VERY FEW!
WINS will draw more ppl. We start winning 9-10 every year you will notice more ppl in the stands.
We already have 2 P5 teams OOC, which is one too many for most P5 programs.
True. Great place to watch a game, even though we were under the eaves, still good. Parking a block away and the bars directly across the street was as convenient as all get out. I'd go there again in a heartbeat!
manufacturing wins against garbage opponents excites no one. Not the casual fans that wont show, not the media that will scoff at this, and not the networks who will make us watch it on our laptops, not the bowls who will see thru this and still have us playing in charlotte or Birmingham.. A lot of p5 schools, mainly Big 12 and big 10, are playing 11 P5 games or will be soon (9 Conference, 2 OOC; See WVU future schedules). Fans will show up to real games, not this crap scrimmages with fcs schools or lower level Mac schools either. You want to be considered perceptionally as a legit D1 team? Then schedule legit D1 teams to play.
I am ok with one doormat opponent but you have to get rid of these back to back games. Zero reason to have ysu followed by road trip to akron. Future schedules have Richmond and marshall. You want to guess how much local excitement those two games get from Pittsburgh? I'll take a 7-5 record with a loss to a respectable P5 team over an 8-4 record with wins against FCS teams anyday of the week.
I would hardly call an opponent a doormat, especially when they whipped Pitt's behind last year and the last td was practically handed to them to make the score seem lopsided.
I think in a perfect world, we keep the few FBS cupcakes for one. We already have a great non-conference against ND. But kinda going with what Pghfan said, what about replacing YSU with an Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, etc. to start the season.
Obviously this would draw a much better crowd and I'm sorry but playing YSU in the opener to act as a preseason game does nothing to show how good our team is. The year we lost we weren't even that bad of a team, but obviously that day nobody thought we would win a game.
I think opening the season at home against a major power let's us see right off the bat what we really need to work on to improve. Even if we lose, it's non-conference, we'd still have 11 games left and the entire ACC season.
Obviously this would draw a much better crowd and I'm sorry but playing YSU in the opener to act as a preseason game does nothing to show how good our team is. The year we lost we weren't even that bad of a team, but obviously that day nobody thought we would win a game.
I think opening the season at home against a major power let's us see right off the bat what we really need to work on to improve. Even if we lose, it's non-conference, we'd still have 11 games left and the entire ACC season.
You get 4 OOC games right now, so you need to schedule 4 wins.
This notion that all or most have to be P5 is ridiculous.
There are very few programs that will actually draw more ppl to Heinz... These are your big name recognizable programs like Texas, Alabama, USC, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, maybe a few more? And of course our traditional rivals. The rest are basically the same to the casual sports fan.
Casual fans really don't care if you play Richmond, a MAC team, or even a low level P5 team, because it's all the same to them!
Winning 9 or 10 games creates a buzz with the fans! It's puts you in better bowl games where you will in turn face better teams anyway!
This notion that all or most have to be P5 is ridiculous.
There are very few programs that will actually draw more ppl to Heinz... These are your big name recognizable programs like Texas, Alabama, USC, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, maybe a few more? And of course our traditional rivals. The rest are basically the same to the casual sports fan.
Casual fans really don't care if you play Richmond, a MAC team, or even a low level P5 team, because it's all the same to them!
Winning 9 or 10 games creates a buzz with the fans! It's puts you in better bowl games where you will in turn face better teams anyway!
Thank God! Saturday's ESPN3 broadcast was the worst I've seen in my entire 25 year life.
While I could not disagree more with "you need to schedule 4 wins," you are spot on that it takes big name programs or rivals to bring out the casual Pitt fan. I remember less than 50,000 fans for Nebraska (granted, with half of Pittsburgh under water that day) and Texas A&M. While neither team was a world beater either year, Nebraska wasn't that far removed from being a top 5 program though Bill Callahan was about to change all of that.
It really does take a rival (or ND because they aren't a rival), Pitt playing in a game with huge implications (Cincinnati in 2009) or a very big name for us to draw a huge crowd. That being said, I'd much rather watch Pitt play someone like Iowa St or Kansas than Ball St or Delaware.
Gotta ask Cap why SMU? Just curious. If we have to do a home and home with a non power 5 I'd prefer Army, Navy, Cincy, Uconn, Temple, UCF, USF, or ECU.
What is the obsession with Army?? I kind of get Navy, Annapolis is a cool road trip. Is this a patriotic thing?? Not sure about the temple or UConn thing either, neither sound all that fun. I see florida, just a nice trip for the team and a nice road trip for fans.
In days of yore--Army was a traditional Pitt opponent and comparable to Navy in strength. Unfortunately, they have gotten very weak and fallen well behind Navy and Air Force in football performance.
If you really think the reason we get stuck in lower tier bowls is because we play Youngstown and Akron you have lost your mind.
Exactly!!! It's WINS! The teams with more WINS, go to the better bowls!
Mostly because college football fans understand the history of playing a military academy, enjoy the patriotic twist, and the pageantry of playing on the campus of an academy [or even all the stuff they bring when they visit your house]. If you have never been to West Point or Michie Stadium on a fall day for a football game, you have no idea what you are missing. Michie Stadium has been listed in a number of places as a top 20 venue for college football--even a bucket list venue by Sports Illustrated. The views are terrific, not to mention the adjoining Hudson River and the parade of cadets. Wrap in that Army and Pitt have a history that goes back to 1931, it is no wonder some Pitt fans have an interest in playing them. Walk around the breathtakingly beautiful campus, and you cannot help but leave feeling better about our country, military and maybe even yourself. Sadly the Army football program has not kept up, but they would be a far better team to play than many teams Pitt schedules. Hail to Pitt!
Exactly PittLaw. I've never been to West Point for a game, but if Pitt ever plays there again I'm there.
These are all admittedly selfish wishes. Yeah Temple is not a fun trip for Pitt fans in general but living in Harrisburg it makes for a very easy road trip. U-Conn is probably a stretch but I never got a chance to see a game up there and for reasons unknown would like to see the Rent (I know it's very underwhelming). Army is for reasons mentioned above and I've personally always wanted to see a game there. I realize nothing is stopping me from going to a game there not involving Pitt but it's MUCH more fun to watch a game with a true rooting interest. The two Florida teams are for reasons you've mentioned. Nice trip and good for recruiting.
