Not a good weekend for Kenny
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If we are being honest, Kenny hasn't had a whole lot of good weekends in the NFL.
They've added 3 QB's since they brought in KP - Flacco, Gabriel, and Sanders.
It's a really solid draft so far. They've addressed their inability to stop the run, which was truly necessary after what happened in the playoff game. Nothing flashy, it's true, but a lot to like. I like the RB pickup as well.
And Philadelphia drafting McCord further solidifies how the league views Kenny Pickett. They did want another backup QB after all; they just didn't care if it was Pickett.
Well, to everyone except for a few dozen people on this board.
Looks like they added more average players to continue to be an average team.
The strategy is bizarre overall.
Round 1 draft QB, Edge or OT high. If they can't find one, you trade down. They could have added a pick and still drafted the same DT or another similar one.
Round 2 they paid $132 million for WR when they could have drafted one for $7 million.
Round 3 they replaced Najee with another Najee. Drafting a RB, S or LB early isn't efficient.
We can agree to disagree. This is a workmanlike draft. I think that the need for stout D-linemen was pretty clear, and they took care of that. They needed a bigger guy behind TJ and Highsmith, and they got that, since Herbig is too small to play the run. This RB is hopefully not Najee, and has a much more suitable running style for what they want to do in the AFC North. Even if he turns out to be Najee, at least he'll be cheaper. Najee wasn't signing here for what he got elsewhere, and frankly he was a disappointment.
Do they still have holes? Of course. I assume they didn't take a WR because they still have hope that Roman Wilson will develop, but with what they have at QB it may not matter. Next year's draft will have a bunch of first round QB's, and I suspect that this season is a partial punt in that direction, which makes sense. They will also need to draft a safety high next year as Minkah is showing his age. But it's very clear that in this division a B-level QB isn't going to cut it, and there was only one A level guy this year. Next year they will make a play for that guy.
They got another QB in the Kenny deal. And they got a draft pick and they reduced salary. The Eagles play chess. Well, compared to teams like the Steelers.
While the Steelers haven't drafted a "marquis" player, they've addressed most of their needs so far (as you mentioned). If they end up going to camp with just the three QB's I see Howard having a good chance to become #1. He fits Smith offense, and he's a winner
Maybe being cut is a good thing for Kenny right now. He could easily find a team to take him as a backup
What a loser mentality 🤣. If he can't beat out Flacco and a couple rookies he doesn't deserve to start.
You're such a dummy. Kenny only had one year left on his contract. Kenny Pickett has beat playoff and championship caliber teams in this league. McCord is a flyer to compete for QB 3 and maybe develop like Tanner did. Eagles are on a whole other level. There isn't much to glean about Kenny from their moves .....unless your on his 🍖
You are 100% correct. Franchises like the Eagles understand value and hit rates. They also trade down more than anyone so they hit on more picks.
The stillers seem lost or they just can't be honest with themselves, which leads to reaching to fill an immediate need.
If Khan were good at this, he would have used his first 3 years accumulating picks to reset the roster. Instead, he's burned the good will years to continue this road to being a mediocre football franchise.
He has a boss.
We don't know how his boss is evaluating him or what he's instructing him to do.
Kenny will be fine. By the look of the Browns draft room - looked like the Sanders pick was the owners.
The Eagles are on a roll right now, but primarily because they got damned lucky with a 2nd round pick that turned out to be a great QB. That was luck. And I don't begrudge them that, because it has to happen. But if they don't get an All-Pro level QB in the second round, they don't win a Super Bowl last year.
Roseman is great, but every team in the league passed on his QB. It wasn't like he had a vision from God.
Standard silly take from you. The Eagles took Hurts well above his projection and most considered it a reach. They had a ridiculous roster top to bottom last season, as evidenced by the contracts their FAs got elsewhere. Hurts played within the system, but there are probably 15 other QBs you could have plugged in and had the same or better results with that roster. Hell, Pickett and McKee looked phenomenal in their final 2.5 games.
No luck about how the Eagles draft and develop. They have the best Owner and GM combo in the league.
New blood with a pretty good resume. They still have to perform, but hope springs eternal.
And why not. There aren’t many can’t miss out there. Especially with the money they are throwing at them.
The league has spoken yet again. Both in Philadelphia and Cleveland. But, by all means, keep pushing thr fairytale.
This is a really bad take on this particular draft.
Round 1: Harmon was the last of the high-end defensive linemen prospects. If they trade down, another team takes him and they're left with primarily run stoppers. Interior pass rushers are a premium position just as much as EDGE, WRs, CBs, and OTs.
Round 2: This was a very weak receiver draft for top talent. There wasn't a guy in the second who matches DK's talent.
Round 3: Saying Johnson is just another Najee is an incredibly lazy take.
Where are the Kenny fans talking about the Browns lying to him? They added three QBs since trading for him. The Browns will keep Flacco because he's held that job before and they probably won't cut a third rounder (an insane reach for Gabriel). The last spot will come down to Kenny vs. Sanders.
It's not just trading down, it's asset management.
2021
They moved Carson Wentz for a future first and moved from 6 to 12 while picking up another first 2022. Then they moved back UP in the first round to get DeVonta Smith. .
2022
They traded UP 2 spots for Jordan Davis and traded another first for AJ Brown.
2023
They traded UP 1 spot for Jalen Carter.
Beyond any of the movement, they just have a good scouting department and are excellent at developing players. They only had 5 picks in 2018 (none in the first)--Dallas Goedert, Avante Maddox, Josh Sweat, Matt Pryor, and Jordan Mailata.
Teams can make 10 trades every draft and have 10 picks every year, but if they aren't hitting on them it doesn't matter.
Flacco is a 40 year old has been. He didn’t look very good last year. Picketts job to lose. My guess is Pickett starts the season just like fields did for the Steelers. If he falters Flacco comes in. The Browns obviously like the Oregon QB because he was there in the third round and many teams had passed on him. Let’s face it, half the teams in the league are struggling with their QB rooms and so taking a chance like what happened with the 49ers and Purdy is kind of the norm for the bottom half.
I don’t see Watson in this equation as he will still be recovering from injury. I could also see the Browns just cutting him.
I don’t see Watson in this equation as he will still be recovering from injury. I could also see the Browns just cutting him.
Same thing can be said about Joe Flacco. Did he have a not so good weekend as well?
To be even more honest, during his first couple of years in Pittsburgh he had a horrible OC and a HC that still believes that playing 1970's football will win in the NFL today. He then went to Philadelphia where he was going to be a backup to one of the star QB's in the NFL.
Why would you like the Steelers draft so far? The biggest weakness for the Steelers is their offense. They have no QB and wasted a 1st round pick on the defensive side of the ball. Try to spin it however you'd like, but they are in trouble even if 40+ year old Aaron Rodgers decides to sign on.
Quite frankly, I thought they had a terrible draft.
It always amazes me how fans react to rookies being drafted. These dudes they brought in are nowhere close to elite, and they are ROOKIES. Stop letting Jayden Daniels cloud your judgement. Rookies don't just show up to an NFL camp and shine off the bat. Flacco and Kenny aren't nervous 😂. These 2 dudes got passed over multiple rounds....they are not starters and the whole league knows THAT! Don't let these trolls get under your skin with their non sense. They know it's non sense they are f-ing with people to see who will bite. Kenny called Shadeur to welcome him, and Kenny has only been a Brown for a month. He is firing his warning shot. Welcome rook.....this is my shxt ... 🚬
Winning franchises get it. The stillers don't. It's really that simply.
There's efficiencies to be had in the system. An early pick for for a QB, Edge or OT makes sense. You shouldn't be taking a RB, S or LB early.
I said this before, stillers are struggling with identifying talent and cap management. When you take QB early, the least you can do is surround him with talent.
If he had stayed with Steelers, he would have started at least the first six games last year while Wilson was hurt. And, if he had performed reasonably well, he might have been the incumbent stater this year. Big what ifs, but he would be in a better career situation if he had stuck it out in Pittsburgh. Predict that he will be playing in CFL soon.
I've seen a lot of drafts and one thing I know is you don't know how good a draft was until 2-3 years later.
You may want to let the Eagles know they’re doing it wrong. Those idiots took a MLB in the first and a safety in the second.
Winning franchises have a franchise QB, the Steelers don't right now and there wasn't one available for them in this draft. It's not complicated. I still think they need a change at HC, but the Steelers once again had one of the best value under Khan and Weidl.
You completely ignored half the premium positions: QB, OT, WR, EDGE, IDL (who can generate pressure), and CB. Under Khan and Weidl, the Steelers have had 11 Day 1/2 selections and have used 7 of them on premium positions.
The entire NFL said this QB class stinks and passed on basically on the QBs, but since joeydavid wanted the Steelers to take a massive reach in the first they had a terrible draft? Okay.
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