Notre Dame needs a directive now: Join full time in football

[PittMiamiRivalry]

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...en-no-problem-acc-has-irishs-back/5412377002/

Let's see, the Irish have lost Stanford, USC, and will probably lose more opponents. Like a beggar with both hands out, ND will lean on Swofford to give the Irish as full a schedule as the other ACC teams will get. But that shouldn't be given for free. Now that Notre Dame is an occasional opponent, it's hard to see their value as a part-time football member. Swofford won't do anything except give Swarbrick exactly what he wants.

 

[wbrpanther]

https://www.indystar.com/story/spor...en-no-problem-acc-has-irishs-back/5412377002/

Let's see, the Irish have lost Stanford, USC, and will probably lose more opponents. Like a beggar with both hands out, ND will lean on Swofford to give the Irish as full a schedule as the other ACC teams will get. But that shouldn't be given for free. Now that Notre Dame is an occasional opponent, it's hard to see their value as a part-time football member. Swofford iand won't do anything except give Swarbrick exactly what he wants.

Ain’t happening.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

Ok then they say no and if we actually meant our threat, we shot ourselves in the foot. Cool

 

[9nationalchampionships]

The ACC needs to sneak on the Notre Dame campus at midnight and paint ACC matters all over the streets and buildings

 

[Parkview57]

To borrow an old saying (when you're feeling very important) Take a bucket down to the ocean, fill it with water, and the hole that it makes is how much ND football will miss the ACC

 

[oldpantherfan]

If conferences (and fans) would stop kissing their ash they would join a conference.
I believe a past big ten coach said if they don't join the big ten that teams should not play them -and they made him apologize-. That was wrong and he was right.
NBC will not continue showing their games if they aren't playing the top teams.
They have not won a national champion in 32 years, have only been in the current playoff (system) once,in the BCS championship once, despite almost always having a top 10 (or at least top 25) recruting class annually and all the hype.
There are conferences that can't get a team into the playoffs and Notre Dame is the only team that is automacically included, its the power five plus them. How is that even right ?
And they hurt teams and conferences more than they help to include taking bowl games and money from the conference.
Now is the chance to take that entitlement away from them by not playing them.it should be all teams ( sports) or none. Period,
But not one conference president has the you know what's to do it.

 

[Parkview57]

Now is the chance to take that entitlement away from them by not playing them

Don't get me wrong, I agree with most of your post except that other schools will pick them up faster than you can say "Payday" if ACC schools refuse to play them, IMHO.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Ok then they say no and if we actually meant our threat, we shot ourselves in the foot. Cool

Yeah, I never get these directives on how they should be given an ultimatum... join or else. Better be prepared for or else.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

They're definitely more beneficial than not with very little risk from ACC. But in the big areas -ACCN and the ancillary bowls- they've helped but haven't had as big an impact as I thought.

 

[ameoba defense]

Pitt fans get annoyed by ND because their deal doesn't add much for us. We already played them regularly, and actually lose dates because of this deal. Other than BC, the other schools didn't play ND, so getting them on the schedule, especially at home, is a plus. They ain't what they used to be on the field, but they still win enough to keep people tuning in, which is what gives them their power. If the NBC deal ever went away, they'd be in the league in a flash.

 

[joefromlancaster]

Would like to see the ACC meet with ND and discuss how we could get them into full membership? ND is a very big named school with a lot of
alumni and pull. However, the ACC will bail them out this year if there is a season. Once they are playing 6-7 ACC games, they are 3 games away from a 9-10 league commitment. It would allow them the usc and navy game. Who would be there other game that they would want?


I think it is the perfect time for the ACC to has a chat with ND about full membership.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

I've said before... Mist realistic outcome is to coax them to contractually agreeing to 6 or 7 ACC opponents a year rather than the current 5.

 

[pittdan77]

ND is an independent so long as NBC pays them conference like money to keep doing it that way. You’ll know the moment that gravy train runs out.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

ND is an independent so long as NBC pays them conference like money to keep doing it that way. You’ll know the moment that gravy train runs out.

In the 18-19 fiscal year the average non-Notre Dame ACC member got paid $29.5 million. Notre Dame, based on not playing football, got $7.9 million. They got an additional $15 million from NBC for football, making their total $22.9 million.

In other words, Notre Dame gets approximately $6.6 million per year less in television money than the other ACC schools get.

 

[TerryD44]

In the 18-19 fiscal year the average non-Notre Dame ACC member got paid $29.5 million. Notre Dame, based on not playing football, got $7.9 million. They got an additional $15 million from NBC for football, making their total $22.9 million.

In other words, Notre Dame gets approximately $6.6 million per year less in television money than the other ACC schools get.

The $15 million/year figure was for the 2010-15 contract.

The amount for the 2015-25 contract has never been officially announced (ND is private).

However, the contract length is twice as long and ND insiders say the amount is now $22 million/year.

However, you main point stands. ND gets $22 million from NBC; $6.8 million from ESPN and ACC payouts and a relatively small amount from NBC Sports to televise all ND home hockey games (it gets no Big Ten Network money for away Big Ten hockey games).

So, ND gets around $30 million a year in TV and conference payouts, about average for ACC schools.

ND and the ACC schools are a wash for TV/conference money.

The Big Ten is going to get around what, $65 million in TV and conference payouts?

ND makes about $35 million a year less than Purdue and Illinois by not joining the Big Ten, so understand that ND is not a football independent because of TV money.

It actually leaves tons of TV money on the table by being an independent rather than a member of the Big Ten.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Yes, join full time for football to not play football. Makes sense.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

What is the value to Notre Dame of essentially getting their own presentation on NBC? Of not having to play a conference championship game that could keep them out of the playoffs?

 

[joefromlancaster]

To get ND to thee table about joining the ACC will be a very delicate
matter. There are benefits to joining the ACC, but the commissioner
will have to overcome the objectives to make it happen. Make no mistake ND will not join out of fear. The ACC will have to show them benefits not just monies.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The $15 million/year figure was for the 2010-15 contract.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-notre-dame-fighting-irish-football-deal-2025

"NBC Sports Group announced a 10-year contract extension to televise Notre Dame football games Thursday, doubling the length of its previous agreement.

NBC and Notre Dame said the extension would begin in 2016 and run through the 2025 season. The contract, reportedly worth $15 million annually for football, had never run for more than five years."


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nca...ame-football-future/1u6ph8j5ynns1xmb6fx6gvtqu

"Notre Dame's television agreement to have home games on NBC runs through 2025 and draws approximately $15 million per year."


https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjour...ootball-is-no-1-but-it-can-learn-a-thing.html

"Since 1991, NBC has shelled out millions to have exclusive broadcast rights for Notre Dame home games, a deal valued at $15 million per year through 2025."

 

[joefromlancaster]

Just have to wonder if NBC would consider a package deal with the ACC
to lock up both? Could be a very good partnership

 

[pittdan77]

In the 18-19 fiscal year the average non-Notre Dame ACC member got paid $29.5 million. Notre Dame, based on not playing football, got $7.9 million. They got an additional $15 million from NBC for football, making their total $22.9 million.

In other words, Notre Dame gets approximately $6.6 million per year less in television money than the other ACC schools get.

It’s almost as if the ACC started a conference network and ND has a renewal coming.