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O.T. -- Will there be a trial for The Three Stooges in 2016?

I fear the State's case must be weak or they would have been more forceful in moving this thing forward. Add in the three ring circus with the AG, the state Judiciary, all circling back to the Sandusky fiasco, and who knows? There is also the messy issue of the PSU counsel playing both sides of the fence....kind of a dicey legal issue that muddies the water as well.

Not sure what happened to "Justice delayed is justice denied"? My guess is the defense in this case is clever and they're taking advantage of every loophole/technicality etc. to delay this trial, thinking the longer it goes on, the more people forget about the facts. Then there may quietly be a settlement, or outright dismissal and it will be gone and forgotten.

Sad state of affairs, but this has always been the saddest kind of tragedy all around. I'm sure it will never be forgotten by the abused kids, and that is the biggest tragedy of all.
 
Larry , Moe and Curley would resent the comparison and sue for slander!
 
The budget would be passed within hours if they withheld the salaries of the legislature for their failure to perform their duties.

We got no one to blame for it other than ourselves.

These clowns get reelected at a rate of like 90%, and most of the morons who blew up the pension system providing cover to bump theirs 16 years ago remain and are now in positions of leadership.
 
No. Nobody cares about the Sandusky stuff anymore. Sending them to trial would hurt the healing process.
 
I fear the State's case must be weak or they would have been more forceful in moving this thing forward. Add in the three ring circus with the AG, the state Judiciary, all circling back to the Sandusky fiasco, and who knows? There is also the messy issue of the PSU counsel playing both sides of the fence....kind of a dicey legal issue that muddies the water as well.

Not sure what happened to "Justice delayed is justice denied"? My guess is the defense in this case is clever and they're taking advantage of every loophole/technicality etc. to delay this trial, thinking the longer it goes on, the more people forget about the facts. Then there may quietly be a settlement, or outright dismissal and it will be gone and forgotten.

Sad state of affairs, but this has always been the saddest kind of tragedy all around. I'm sure it will never be forgotten by the abused kids, and that is the biggest tragedy of all.

While I agree. I believe even the prosecution has lost their will/stomach to proceed. And while everyone would agree it is best to put if behind, I think they are hoping that as time goes by, the prosecution obviously isn't really interested in moving this forward, they find some snag to dismiss the case.

There is probably some really ugly stuff that with the 3 Stooges out of their jobs, Sandusky in Jail, and JoePa dead, they figure "why drudge up and pile on". Not to mention seeing the zealots in action, fearing political backlash against them, even fearing a bit for their safety.

I don't think the delay is purely on the defense's side. I guess I am saying they are all hoping this goes away. Face it, the prosecution seen some of the obvious black and white evidence against Paterno and PSU and how the cult fails to even acknowledge, the most obvious facts. The prosecution probably sees this as a lose/lose proposition. Go forward, and lose the case, well they look like fools. Go forward and win the case then; a) what is gained? b) the PSU cult public will never accept anything but total vindication and c) political suicide.

Justice has absolutely ZERO part in this would be trial.
 
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While I agree. I believe even the prosecution has lost their will/stomach to proceed. And while everyone would agree it is best to put if behind, I think they are hoping that as time goes by, the prosecution obviously isn't really interested in moving this forward, they find some snag to dismiss the case.

There is probably some really ugly stuff that with the 3 Stooges out of their jobs, Sandusky in Jail, and JoePa dead, they figure "why drudge up and pile on". Not to mention seeing the zealots in action, fearing political backlash against them, even fearing a bit for their safety.

I don't think the delay is purely on the defense's side. I guess I am saying they are all hoping this goes away. Face it, the prosecution seen some of the obvious black and white evidence against Paterno and PSU and how the cult fails to even acknowledge, the most obvious facts. The prosecution probably sees this as a lose/lose proposition. Go forward, and lose the case, well they look like fools. Go forward and win the case then; a) what is gained? b) the PSU cult public will never accept anything but total vindication and c) political suicide.

Justice has absolutely ZERO part in this would be trial.
This isn't an original thought on my part, but I'm of the opinion that if the case would ever go into the courtroom, there might be evidence brought forth that would expose some high-placed "others" who are involved. So for this reason, a lot of people want this story to go away.

Mark Madden's original ideas - as farfetched as they sounded at the time - might have legs after all. When it all draws to a close, I suspect that we'll never really know the full story.
 
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This isn't an original thought on my part, but I'm of the opinion that if the case would ever go into the courtroom, there might be evidence brought forth that would expose some high-placed "others" who are involved. So for this reason, a lot of people want this story to go away.

Mark Madden's original ideas - as farfetched as they sounded at the time - might have legs after all. When it all draws to a close, I suspect that we'll never really know the full story.

I believe this also. That is why I say it is a Lose/Lose for the prosecution, hence they want it to go away as much as the defense lawyers.
 
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I believe the madden story as well. It was derailed when that Philly guy who makes accusations up was discredited and then that part of the story was quickly put to bed
 
Unfortunately we will never know the whole truth. Does anybody reall believe that Sandusky didn't start molesting young BOYS until he was in his FIFTIES!
 
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I fear the State's case must be weak or they would have been more forceful in moving this thing forward. Add in the three ring circus with the AG, the state Judiciary, all circling back to the Sandusky fiasco, and who knows? There is also the messy issue of the PSU counsel playing both sides of the fence....kind of a dicey legal issue that muddies the water as well.

Not sure what happened to "Justice delayed is justice denied"? My guess is the defense in this case is clever and they're taking advantage of every loophole/technicality etc. to delay this trial, thinking the longer it goes on, the more people forget about the facts. Then there may quietly be a settlement, or outright dismissal and it will be gone and forgotten.

Sad state of affairs, but this has always been the saddest kind of tragedy all around. I'm sure it will never be forgotten by the abused kids, and that is the biggest tragedy of all.

I don't think that it's a matter of a strong or weak case. It's a catch 22. You do the right thing morally and it's political suicide in PA. So what's the best choice. Button up and kick the can down the road.

You can't keep a job or advance in PA politics by kicking sh!t at an institution that many successful residents take pride in. I'm not defending the lack of action, nor do I believe that's the right course, but I get it.
 
I don't think that it's a matter of a strong or weak case. It's a catch 22. You do the right thing morally and it's political suicide in PA. So what's the best choice. Button up and kick the can down the road.
And no one kicks the can further down the road than a PA politician. Our outrageous (but needed) gasoline tax is the result of the years of neglectfully kicking the can down the road re: bridge and road maintenance.
 
This isn't an original thought on my part, but I'm of the opinion that if the case would ever go into the courtroom, there might be evidence brought forth that would expose some high-placed "others" who are involved. So for this reason, a lot of people want this story to go away.

Mark Madden's original ideas - as farfetched as they sounded at the time - might have legs after all. When it all draws to a close, I suspect that we'll never really know the full story.

In my opinion the longer this case drags out the more it looks like this stuff goes far deeper than people can imagine. Some really ugly rumors surfaced when all this stuff hit the fan and I believed then as I believe now that they are true.
 
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I believe the madden story as well. It was derailed when that Philly guy who makes accusations up was discredited and then that part of the story was quickly put to bed

I never heard exactly what Madden said but rumor has it he was told to shut his trap about it and don't bring it up again. the implication being he could end up like Ray Gricar.
 
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And no one kicks the can further down the road than a PA politician. Our outrageous (but needed) gasoline tax is the result of the years of neglectfully kicking the can down the road re: bridge and road maintenance.
I've been thinking that a savvy reporter ought to research where all the new gas tax money is going.
 
I've been thinking that a savvy reporter ought to research where all the new gas tax money is going.
I dunno...you might have a point.

But in my area, there've been all kinds of road construction/maintenance projects. And it seems as though we detoured around new bridge construction through most of 2015. I've assumed that the gasoline taxes had something to do with that.
 
Unfortunately we will never know the whole truth. Does anybody reall believe that Sandusky didn't start molesting young BOYS until he was in his FIFTIES!

there were rumors floating around state college since the late 70s when jerry was in his mid 30s

of course no one cared enough to investigate that far back
 
I've been thinking that a savvy reporter ought to research where all the new gas tax money is going.


How long have they been working on the parkway west now? What about all the work they recently completed on the Squirrel Hill tunnel? Didn't they just finish up a bunch of work on 79? In a couple months they start redoing the Liberty Bridge. And so on.

With all the bitching that residents of western PA have done in the last couple of years about how all the construction is screwing up their commutes and their trips to sporting and cultural events is it really all that hard to figure out where some of that money is going?
 
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