Offense recruiting
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is anyone concerned that the Duzzi regime will be to offensive recruiting what the Chryst regime was to defensive recruiting?
So far our class is defense-heavy, and I will go on record now as saying that we need to recruit more QBs. We can't put all our eggs in one QB per class, especially when those QBs weren't obvious P5 prospects to begin with. We just can't take the chance that they will he some hidden gems that nobody else was smart enough to spot. .
I agree. I would like them to get a dual threat QB that has a nice offer sheet. Plus, they need to recruit more than one or two bigtime recievers. Especially, if Boyd decides to go pro.
Folks are worried about our recievers not being open this year. As the reason why we are not throwing the ball down field. Wait till next year with Boyd gone........oouch!
Its their first class, and they HAVE to recruit heavier on defense to make up for pc under recruiting that side of the ball for three cycles, and it is not going to be a full class, probably 19-20 or so.
And, if they do successfully get one qb per class, that will be a better rate of qb recruiting than the program has seen this century.
I do get that we are seeing a paucity of offensive talent, but again, they have to get the defensive and talent in the program reset, that just is what they have to do in this class.
At the same time, they are trying to get a couple studs in clark and sanders ...
And, if they do successfully get one qb per class, that will be a better rate of qb recruiting than the program has seen this century.
I do get that we are seeing a paucity of offensive talent, but again, they have to get the defensive and talent in the program reset, that just is what they have to do in this class.
At the same time, they are trying to get a couple studs in clark and sanders ...
I think this is shortsighted. They do have a QB in the class, a high end WR, are in on Winfree and Matthews at WR, have received an OL verbal, have Moss at RB...if anything offensively, they will bring in Winfree or Matthews, a TE and maybe one more OL? They have three months to go before signing day and it appears they are doing just fine. The big names have taken notice of Narduzzi over the last month due to our success. It is hard to bring in 20 4 star or star recruits when you are a new coach with the team coming off many 6-6 seasons. I am extremely optimistic where the staff is with recruiting both sides of the ball with these considerations in mind.
ill be content with WRs if we can get the Winfree kid.. Him, FLowers and Mr 2 star NJ guy who puts up ridiculous stats, is fine.. Matthews is no longer being recruited for WR btw.. I actually like our QB depth, Two top end seniors next year if Chad doesn't bolt with 3 other guys on roster.. The Pine Richland kid will be a player, I've been saying it since last year..
They have recruited a four star WR and have a line on a talented JC transfer.
Everyone sees the same issue you do, but they have so many WRs on the roster already, you can't let other positions slip, and if you are relying on a frosh to come in and be that big of a factor you are putting all your chips on making an inside straight on the river. Someone already on the team is going to have to step up.
winfree and the maryland situation, how bad did it get? also, nobody is chasing winfree now, its a fair question to ask why.
nothing is a shoe in with this kid. and yet posters are already talking about him being a starter. time will tell, hope the light goes on with this kid.
nothing is a shoe in with this kid. and yet posters are already talking about him being a starter. time will tell, hope the light goes on with this kid.
Yep, even if the background stufff gets him here, it would be good to temper expectations a bit.
His video does look interesting, at least at that level he is playing a LOT faster than his competition.
I feel like they see the defense as a huge issue. After what happened last Thursday, I fail to see how anyone could deny that we need to be more physical and need some better talent.
You can't whiff on sacks and get out-muscled in the secondary and expect to win. There was plenty of offense in that game to win it. Take away one of the "big" plays and Pitt wins that game. You can argue the same for the Iowa game. Needed one stop and you probably win that game.
You can't whiff on sacks and get out-muscled in the secondary and expect to win. There was plenty of offense in that game to win it. Take away one of the "big" plays and Pitt wins that game. You can argue the same for the Iowa game. Needed one stop and you probably win that game.
How many receivers do you want??? They already have a very nice prospect in Flowers and an electric slot receiver candidate in Ffrench, plus they're rumored to be involved with Winfree and Matthews.
Currently on the roster, other than Boyd, we have:
Ford
Challingsworth
Zeise
Weah
Henderson
Tipton
Lopes
Ivery
Wuestner
Manny Stocker
Two walk-ons
Now, your point may be that these guys are all bums and need to be recruited over. I'm not ready to say that. I have no idea about Lopes, Ivery, and Stocker. Ford is solid, and Challingsworth, Zeise, Henderson and Tipton all have the athleticism to be starters. Weah has the speed, but I just don't see the ball skills.
It's naive to think that any freshman we bring in will bypass our current depth. We have plenty of WRs, and I believe that some of them will be surprisingly good when given the chance, especially Henderson and Tipton.
Your right. We have a ton of talent at the wideout spot. Now and in the pipeline lol. Seriously do you even follow Pitt to make this claim?
The wide out position does not take a couple years to show your capable of being a good player. You know you have good recievers very early in their college careers. Pitt fans have seen this many times over the years.
So, assuming they do in fact sign Winfree, and Flowers and Ffrench honor their verbals, that isn't enough WR's in this class?
Henderson, Zeiss, Challingsworth and Tipton can play at this level. At least one or two of them will be fine.
We also appear to be getting Clark, the very athletic TE who will be playing in '17.
Don't see the urgency here............
Well according to our offensive coordinator its a huge problem ( which i don't believe is the problem with offense ).
Don't be suprised to see some of the kids you mentioned to get over recruited.
lets hope henderson, zeiss, chally and tipton can play at this level. none are proven. assuming and proven are two different things.
wr's that are good, make plays early in their career. its one of the easiest positions for players to make a mark early in their career.
wr's that are good, make plays early in their career. its one of the easiest positions for players to make a mark early in their career.
Shere I don't disagree with you, but you cant continue to bring in a 1/2 dozen WR recruits every year.. With Ffrench, Flowers and hopefully Winfree, that should be adequate and you hope someone seperates themselves in the spring..
Frustrating because I've been waiting for this the last two years.. I think it goes without saying that there is some dead weight there that needs cut loose after this season, or as my man JRip says, needs to move on with their life's work. No reason to throw out names, we all know who they are.. They've been given their chance, time to give the younger guys their chance now..
And what do they have, like 5 catches between them? As bad as the WRs have been outside of Boyd, if some of them where any good, wouldn't they get some playing time RIGHT NOW?
Well, Ford's OK, not a great deep threat, but a serviceable possession receiver. Tipton's been hurt, and don't know what the deal is with Henderson. They burned his shirt, so he must have been showing something in camp. Challingsworth is a tall guy who should be another serviceable possession receiver, doesn't seem to get many chances?
Seems Boyd should be the deep threat, and Ford and others the possession guys, but it's been just the opposite.
Winfree and Flowers show promise as being early contributors next year, Ffrench....who knows what we've got there, but he's certainly productive in HS.
Agree with your first sentence, I get that. But you need some OLs in every class, and just because 1 QB per class may be better than past regimes doesn't mean it's good enough. That;s fine when you have established returning starters and backups, but when you're trying to find your QB, you need to bring in a few of them and see who emerges. I think we're potentially in a precarious position at QB with only Bertke, DiNucci and MacVittie in our pipeline. Peterman is a Band-Aid, and Voytik is apparently not the right guy to run this offense. Maybe one of those guys will prove to be outstanding, but i sure wouldn't count on that if i were Dooz.
Clark and Sanders are both long shots. I wouldn't be surprised if Clark never plays a down of live game football at a P5 school. I'd like to see us take a shot at Josh Jackson, the VT commit from Saline MI. That kid's a player, far more so than MacVittie has been in HS for instance. His dad was a college QB and a coach under Lloyd Carr at Michigan, and he has eaten, breathed and slept football his whole life. On top of that he;s an excellent student. Just a winner in every way. I'd like to see a true dual threat QB in the mix for us--it opens up so many more options in the offense.
On the WR's, I think Boyd is such an over-the-top talent that he is open all of the time and will always get the first look. That takes targets away from the second and third guy but it doesn't mean they're not good talent. Just means Boyd is something special. Look at the #1 guy in the NFL versus the #2 on most clubs. Outside of a couple of unique cases, the #1 guy gets most of the targets. The flip side of that is it makes the QB lazy. When Boyd does get covered, Peterman looks like he freaks a little bit. I think that can be fixed though.
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