Oh Canada....

[SVPanther]

Here's the premise. if you ain't in college athletics for the $$$$$$$, you ain't gonna be in it for long. Ergo, Canada is gone. He's got a wealth of opportunities to chose from: If he wants to go for big bucks now while preserving the opportunity to HC in a P5 conference in a year or two - LSU is a great fit especially if Oregeon gets the HC job.
If he wants to take over a program now (since most powers want prior HC experience) he pays his dues in the MAC, probably at WMU.
In this context, it's hard to see how another year at Pitt advances his career over the opportunities that are available to him today. Props to Canada on a job well done!

 

[steel_curtain]

Here's the premise. if you ain't in college athletics for the $$$$$$$, you ain't gonna be in it for long. Ergo, Canada is gone. He's got a wealth of opportunities to chose from: If he wants to go for big bucks now while preserving the opportunity to HC in a P5 conference in a year or two - LSU is a great fit especially if Oregeon gets the HC job.
If he wants to take over a program now (since most powers want prior HC experience) he pays his dues in the MAC, probably at WMU.
In this context, it's hard to see how another year at Pitt advances his career over the opportunities that are available to him today. Props to Canada on a job well done!

-Pat Narduzzi is the 2nd lowest paid coach in the ACC. We could make Canada the highest paid OC in the country if we chose. We already pay him 640K+.

-LSU pays its OC 1 Million, 2nd highest paid OC in the country. If we bumped Canada's pay up 200K, he would be the 3rd highest paid OC in the entire country. You think we are going to lose our OC for 200K? Especially after the problems he had at both N.C. State and Wisconsin and he dumped both program? And after he already rejected Tennessee? Believe it or not, while money is nice, trust me, relationships matter too. Canada is having a good ole time at this University and working with Narduzzi.

 

[SVPanther]

-Pat Narduzzi is the 2nd lowest paid coach in the ACC. We could make Canada the highest paid OC in the country if we chose. We already pay him 640K+.

-LSU pays its OC 1 Million, 2nd highest paid OC in the country. If we bumped Canada's pay up 200K, he would be the 3rd highest paid OC in the entire country. You think we are going to lose our OC for 200K? Especially after the problems he had at both N.C. State and Wisconsin and he dumped both program? And after he already rejected Tennessee? Believe it or not, while money is nice, trust me, relationships matter too. Canada is having a good ole time at this University and working with Narduzzi.

Ok, you take relationships, I take $$$$$ and career advancement. If faced with the same scenario, I suspect 90 % are gone. Name one coach anywhere who would accept less because "relationships." Doesn't exist.

 

[steel_curtain]

Ok, you take relationships, I take $$$$$ and career advancement. If faced with the same scenario, I suspect 90 % are gone. Name one coach anywhere who would accept less because "relationships." Doesn't exist.

-Fine, throw it out the window.

-We already renegotiated Narduzzi's salary. $1+ Million makes him the 2nd highest paid OC in the country. Higher than everyone not named Bama. $850K makes him 3rd highest paid. Higher than Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, USC, or any other team not named Bama or LSU.

-This is actually comical. In the offseason half the fanbase didnt want him. LOL

 

[SVPanther]

Memo: self interest triumphs over all. Pitt's not going to break the bank nor should they. OC' are fungible. Beyond that, no rational person - is gonna pass up an offer that could lead to $3MM in a couple years. Hey, great job Canada, did a great year at Pitt, next man up.

 

[steel_curtain]

Memo: self interest triumphs over all. Pitt's not going to break the bank nor should they. OC' are fungible. Beyond that, no rational person - is gonna pass up an offer that could lead to $3MM in a couple years. Hey, great job Canada, did a great year at Pitt, next man up.

-Break the bank? We just dumped a $3 Million dollar basketball salary of Jamie Dixon. If you dont think we can easily afford an extra 200K you are delusional.

-And who the hell is going to offer Matt Canada a job of over $3Million? You are crazy.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Pitt will balk and lose him. Field hockey needs the ACC money.

 

[PhPanther1]

Head coaches want "their guy" more than they want to go get a guy to make a lateral move because he's had a good year. Canada has some bad OC years on his resume, so he's not a slam dunk to go anywhere.

 

[steel_curtain]

Pitt will balk and lose him. Field hockey needs the ACC money.

-Barnes isnt that dumb. Pitt has been upgrading its facilities all year, including the $4+ Million football upgrade we got earlier this year.

-We are talking about 200-400K tops here, LOL

 

[SVPanther]

1. Good grief. LSU will offer more.
2. He has the chance to he HC at a competitive MAC school and if successful, get top power 5 job in a couple years.
3. He's been at Pitt 1year. Who knows how they perform next year.
4. Take off the blue and gold glasses. What's the rational choice? Pretty obvious unless you want the old lady to hit you over the head with a frying pan.

 

[#99HUGHgreen]

Here's the premise. if you ain't in college athletics for the $$$$$$$, you ain't gonna be in it for long. Ergo, Canada is gone. He's got a wealth of opportunities to chose from: If he wants to go for big bucks now while preserving the opportunity to HC in a P5 conference in a year or two - LSU is a great fit especially if Oregeon gets the HC job.
If he wants to take over a program now (since most powers want prior HC experience) he pays his dues in the MAC, probably at WMU.
In this context, it's hard to see how another year at Pitt advances his career over the opportunities that are available to him today. Props to Canada on a job well done!

Hey SVPanther... let's all try to stick to being panther fans instead of acting like one of those self righteous sports analysts who feels the need to stir things up by suggesting every successful coach MUST always move on to a bigger school that offers more money (not taking into account many other quality of life or coaching chemistry factors that may simply prove to be more important to them).

While I'd imagine he'll have some schools interested in him, there are many reasons it would make sense for Canada to stay right where he is (at least for one more year).

Note: The self-righteous comment is not directed at you... it's directed at those... well, pompous, self-righteous sports anylysts.

 

[steel_curtain]

1. Good grief. LSU will offer more.
2. He has the chance to he HC at a competitive MAC school and if successful, get top power 5 job in a couple years.
3. He's been at Pitt 1year. Who knows how they perform next year.
4. Take off the blue and gold glasses. What's the rational choice? Pretty obvious unless you want the old lady to hit you over the head with a frying pan.

-You just said Matt Canada would be making $3 Million Dollars. This is how dumb your comment is. He would be on the fringe of one of the Top 25 highest paid head coaches overall in all of college football and has never even Coached as a Head Coach a single game.

-And Canada is just going to jump to LSU went LSU doesnt have a head coach or even a plan at this point. And they are looking at Brian Kelly? ROFL at LSU

 

[SVPanther]

Ok, he bleeds blue and gold, already has a Yinzer accent after living here for 10 months and has totally lost any ability to make rational self interested economic choices for himself and his family. Gotya. Good lord. And to think Im a Pitt Grad. So stupid of me. my bad.
There. Better?

 

[steel_curtain]

Ok, he bleeds blue and gold, already has a Yinzer accent after living here for 10 months and has totally lost any ability to make rational self interested economic choices for himself and his family. Gotya. Good lord. And to think Im a Pitt Grad. So stupid of me. my bad.
There. Better?

-Pat Narduzzi Coached a Total of 2, count them now, 2 Colleges before he came to Pitt over the span of 13 years.

-Matt Canada has been at a Total of 5 Colleges dating back the last 19 Seasons.

-So unlike what you think, what you wish, what you want, we have 2 Coaches on board that DO NOT bounce from college to college like a beach ball. Canada chose to dump Wisconsin and NC State because of the treatment he was getting with both of them. Wisconsin was retarded, but thats their business.

 

[PantherO]

Whatever the case.... If it comes down to Pitt needing to pay Canada, then I hope they do. This is the most fun Pitt team to watch in years. Even the losses are exciting because you can never count the offense out.

 

[Swervin27]

What makes you guys think he is ready for a P5 head coaching job? I don't see a big-time school offered him a head job, Cordinator yes but not a head job

 

[VAPITTALUM]

What makes you guys think he is ready for a P5 head coaching job? I don't see a big-time school offered him a head job, Cordinator yes but not a head job

Agreed Swervin. Canada's offense has put up incredible numbers behind a very good OL, who will likely have every current starter drafted into the NFL over the next couple of years (save maybe Officer). Canada is not going to jump ship after one successful season to go be a head coach at a lower-level MAC school likely making less than what he is currently making at PITT as an OC.

PJ Fleck at WMU is the highest paid MAC coach with a total compensation of $820,360. No way would Canada come in as the highest paid MAC coach. If, as Steel said, the PITT administrators were willing to bump his pay to ~$800K, he would most certainly stay for at least another season.

 

[Swervin27]

Agreed Swervin. Canada's offense has put up incredible numbers behind a very good OL, who will likely have every current starter drafted into the NFL over the next couple of years (save maybe Officer). Canada is not going to jump ship after one successful season to go be a head coach at a lower-level MAC school likely making less than what he is currently making at PITT as an OC.

PJ Fleck at WMU is the highest paid MAC coach with a total compensation of $820,360. No way would Canada come in as the highest paid MAC coach. If, as Steel said, the PITT administrators were willing to bump his pay to ~$800K, he would most certainly stay for at least another season.

I think we should be more concerned about a troubling SEC program to grab him. some coach who wants to save his skin bringing him in, doubling his salary to help the offense.. Would really love if we can get one more year out of this guy. That's life in college football now, you have yourself a successful Coordinator, and you are not Alabama, you should be happy to get 2 or 3 years TOPS from this guy..

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Here's the premise. if you ain't in college athletics for the $$$$$$$, you ain't gonna be in it for long. Ergo, Canada is gone. He's got a wealth of opportunities to chose from: If he wants to go for big bucks now while preserving the opportunity to HC in a P5 conference in a year or two - LSU is a great fit especially if Oregeon gets the HC job.
If he wants to take over a program now (since most powers want prior HC experience) he pays his dues in the MAC, probably at WMU.
In this context, it's hard to see how another year at Pitt advances his career over the opportunities that are available to him today. Props to Canada on a job well done!

Well hey SVP, then you can lobby to get your guy Walt in as OC! That would probably make your holidays complete!

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Hey SVPanther... let's all try to stick to being panther fans instead of acting like one of those self righteous sports analysts who feels the need to stir things up by suggesting every successful coach MUST always move on to a bigger school that offers more money (not taking into account many other quality of life or coaching chemistry factors that may simply prove to be more important to them).

While I'd imagine he'll have some schools interested in him, there are many reasons it would make sense for Canada to stay right where he is (at least for one more year).

Note: The self-righteous comment is not directed at you... it's directed at those... well, pompous, self-righteous sports anylysts.

SVP has had a bug up his but about Pitt ever since the whole Walt Harris thing went down over 10 years ago. Best to ignore is ramblings.

 

[Swervin27]

Well hey SVP, then you can lobby to get your guy Walt in as OC! That would probably make your holidays complete!

Walt would be a great QB coach, would love it if we ever went that route.. Hell, maybe one of those paid consultant loopholes that the bigger schools are taking advantage of.. Bring him on in spring and summer camp to work with the QBs especially..

I know I know, Canada is the QB coach..

 

[PhPanther1]

I think we should be more concerned about a troubling SEC program to grab him. some coach who wants to save his skin bringing him in, doubling his salary to help the offense.. Would really love if we can get one more year out of this guy. That's life in college football now, you have yourself a successful Coordinator, and you are not Alabama, you should be happy to get 2 or 3 years TOPS from this guy..

Agree. He should be mentoring the next guy so that we can promote from within with minor changes to our scheme.

 

[oldpantherfan]

WHO FRIGGIN CARES !!!!!! Lets not forget while your smooching his booty that if it wasn't for Canada's early conservative play calling late in games we would have one lost at best (Miami as the other games were winnable) and top 10 maybe top 5 and talking playoffs in Narduzzi's second year.
Besides if he wants to go let him go he can be replaced, so unless your paying for part of his contract or raise why are you even worried about it.
As long as Narduzzi doesn't leave !!!

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I think Canada gets a raise and sticks around. If I'm him, I'm salivating at the talent I will have over the next few years. And it seems that PN gives him free reign with the offense. Stick around for a few more years and parlay the success into a lower to mid-level P5 job (like at his alma mater Indiana). He can leave now and take a MAC job, stay there for 3-4 years, and parlay that into exactly the same thing...a lower to mid-level P5 job. So I'm not sure leaving for a HC job makes sense. And jumping to another OC position is risky given the relationship w/ PN and the job security he seems to have here.

 

[ChazzMo]

And I'm wondering what advice HCPN gives him. Remember, Narduzzi bided his time as a hotshot coordinator for YEARS until the "right job" came along. Why would an LSU want a guy who hasn't ever done it at this level and hasn't given any indication he might be a football CEO type? And for that matter, why would OCMC jump into the cauldron of big time SEC craziness for his first HC job? His stock goes down if he fails, and he may not get a second chance. All in all - I think he stays 2 more years.

 

[HailtoPitt]

-Barnes isnt that dumb. Pitt has been upgrading its facilities all year, including the $4+ Million football upgrade we got earlier this year.

-We are talking about 200-400K tops here, LOL

Barnes also hired Stallings, so the evidence both from Barnes and Pitt's history is not good here. Chances are Pitt will NOT pay him enough to keep him.

 

[TD_6082]

Tennessee may try kicking the tires again. I don't see how DeBord survives this year.

 

[PhPanther1]

Well, Narduzzi said today...
"We're going to do what we can to make sure Matt (Canada) stays here for a while," Narduzzi said of possible interest in Pitt's OC.

 

[Swervin27]

give him one of those meaningless promotional titles of Associate Head Coach.. Make him feel better about himself.. WIth a nice little 200k pay raise with it of course..

 

[Jpripper88]

1. Good grief. LSU will offer more.
2. He has the chance to he HC at a competitive MAC school and if successful, get top power 5 job in a couple years.
3. He's been at Pitt 1year. Who knows how they perform next year.
4. Take off the blue and gold glasses. What's the rational choice? Pretty obvious unless you want the old lady to hit you over the head with a frying pan.

I don't think that is true at all. He might be able to get a very bad MAC job and barely get a raise, if any.

For instance, he was passed over for HC at Northern Illinois when Doeren left for NC State, but the HC there makes less than Canada does at Pitt. Power 5 OC to G5 HC is a big downgrade in prestige and pay in most cases.

 

[cruzer]

Geez SVP. You must be getting old. Losing your fastball. A very weak attempt at stirring up shit. You'll have to up your game if you're going to get banned again.

Cruzer

 

[steel_curtain]

I think we should be more concerned about a troubling SEC program to grab him. some coach who wants to save his skin bringing him in, doubling his salary to help the offense.. Would really love if we can get one more year out of this guy. That's life in college football now, you have yourself a successful Coordinator, and you are not Alabama, you should be happy to get 2 or 3 years TOPS from this guy..

-Except colleges DO NOT PAY OC'S OVER $1 MILLION PER YEAR. So for anyone that keeps saying this over and over like some 2nd rate SEC team is just going to come in and double his salary, it isnt happening. The best DC's in the entire country rarely make that much. There were only 9 OC's and DC's COMBINED LAST year that made over $1 Million. And only 1 of those 9 LAST year was an OC. 1, in the entire country.

 

[PITTLAW]

Here's the premise. if you ain't in college athletics for the $$$$$$$, you ain't gonna be in it for long. Ergo, Canada is gone. He's got a wealth of opportunities to chose from: If he wants to go for big bucks now while preserving the opportunity to HC in a P5 conference in a year or two - LSU is a great fit especially if Oregeon gets the HC job.
If he wants to take over a program now (since most powers want prior HC experience) he pays his dues in the MAC, probably at WMU.
In this context, it's hard to see how another year at Pitt advances his career over the opportunities that are available to him today. Props to Canada on a job well done!

Curious why when things are actually going pretty well, our "fans" resort to this kind of negative-Nellie inspired discussion? Talking about hypothetical offers and jobs is fine, I guess if you love living in a potential negative future, but why not just enjoy what is happening now? Hopefully most of you are not so miserable and negative in your personal lives? If you must worry about the future, how about beating Syracuse? Geez. Hail to Pitt!

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

Curious why when things are actually going pretty well, our "fans" resort to this kind of negative-Nellie inspired discussion? Talking about hypothetical offers and jobs is fine, I guess if you love living in a potential negative future, but why not just enjoy what is happening now? Hopefully most of you are not so miserable and negative in your personal lives? If you must worry about the future, how about beating Syracuse? Geez. Hail to Pitt!

As I posted above, SVP has been stirring up sheet ever since his buddy Walt was not re-signed. A 10 year grudge is not healthy.

 

[VAPITTALUM]

Curious why when things are actually going pretty well, our "fans" resort to this kind of negative-Nellie inspired discussion? Talking about hypothetical offers and jobs is fine, I guess if you love living in a potential negative future, but why not just enjoy what is happening now? Hopefully most of you are not so miserable and negative in your personal lives? If you must worry about the future, how about beating Syracuse? Geez. Hail to Pitt!

It is interesting to hear some who are afraid of success. Building a successful program means that you likely have excellent coaches. While stability is a great thing for any program, and PITT has obviously had the misfortune of many years of instability, success will mean that some of those coaches who paved the way to success are hired into more prominent and better paying positions.

What I don't want to see happen is coaches being poached by other programs, which is more of a lateral move.

 

[pittmeister]

Geez SVP. You must be getting old. Losing your fastball. A very weak attempt at stirring up shit. You'll have to up your game if you're going to get banned again.

Cruzer

Never a happy moment...

Narduzzi is leaving...

Canada is leaving...

Big win, but where are the recruits?

Local recruits are leaving, we're doomed. Narduzzi can't recruit!

Posters worried about how well WVU & PSU are doing...

These low testosterone, high estrogen posters need to enjoy the ride and STFU!

 

[steel_curtain]

-Great article by Chris Peak today after interviewing Narduzzi and asking about Matt Canada. And who would have thought, Narduzzi is quoting the same exact things about liking a particular job and program and not everything is about money ad I said earlier in this very thread.. Did Narduzzi read my comments in this thread before the interview? No I'm not Narduzzi either. haha. Welcome aboard Narduzzi and Canada trying to build a future power.

 

[QuitCallingMeWanny]

LOL @ SVPanther he must want to dust off his Walt bobble head

 

[thebadby2]

Gotta keep those coordinators. Continuity is critical as we have learned the hard way at Pitt. I expect Canada gets a realistic raise and we keep him around. Duzzi as well.

We really need to get past this stepping stone program status if we're ever going to enjoy any sustained success.

 

[revampedpanthers]

1. Good grief. LSU will offer more. if they want him they will offer more than 640k but Pitt would most likely go to the 800k range. I think canada likes the fact that PN basically lets him do whatever he wants on offense. I don't know if he can get another OC gig that pays over 800k and lets him do what he wants. Taking a job under a offensive HC would be taking a step back in prestige and lower his chances of a HC job.
2. He has the chance to he HC at a competitive MAC school and if successful, get top power 5 job in a couple years.maybe. And if he wants to be a HC he might take a pay cut to be the guy. But I don't know if he will get many HC offers at the better mac level programs yet. I think one more year of success and he likely starts getting those offers but there is always a chance some AD falls in love with his 1 year of success at Pitt and makes a offer, I expect he is one year away from a good MAC/sunbelt job. Right now he might get a HC offer at a bad G5 job but I don't think it would be smart to take it and don't think he will.
3. He's been at Pitt 1year. Who knows how they perform next year.agree its a risk if he gets a HC offer or a offer for big money at a place like LSU.
4. Take off the blue and gold glasses. What's the rational choice? Pretty obvious unless you want the old lady to hit you over the head with a frying pan.

Disagree as already discussed Pitt will likely be willing to pay him near the top of all OC. He also is friends with PN and see's how PN was able to use multiple years of success as a Coordinator to get a good P5 job. Maybe he gets a raise stays at Pitt for 3 or 4 more years until some decent P5 job opens up.