If this team wins a conference game or two, and fails to lose by 20+ it will be better by far
there is no apologizing for that team/ they were awful .
This team is bad too .
Ok, I officially think this team is much better than Stallings last team..... and arrow is up...
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there is no apologizing for that team/ they were awful .
This team is bad too .
I am guessing this years ACC schedule, even with 2 extra game is easier than their ACC schedule
Like accuracy when possible
Dont appreciate using the past to elevate the present. The present should be forced to stand on its own merits.
Better by comparison a sorry excuse. Just another in the ling line of excuses made for the Capel era.
Nobody is elevating the present /
Comparing this bad team to the crater left by stalking in that season isn’t elevating anything .
You aren’t seeking accuracy .
You’re weirdly fixated on stallings .
And almost universally we all understand this is likely his last season .
Just like last time the team was even worse the coach had to go
I will agree with the almost universally until the last 5-6 Games.
Some on the board are now wavering including some very respected posters.
I think the wavering is more related to hoping that Pitt will win more games than originally expected rather than advocating for Capel. Not saying I’m correct but that’s my interpretation.
Now to be clear there are a few still riding for Capel but I think that’s mostly a different set than you’re talking about. But could be some crossover.
I’ll play along .
What if we actually have a decent acc season - say 7-9 wins in conference including a game or two in the acc tournament ?
Let’s also say with that positive momentum we land a few more good recruits -
Are you telling me you’re in the fire him no matter what camp ?
Or would that unlikely scenerio change your opinion?
because if it doesn’t- you’re not actually interested in accuracy -
You’re on an agenda.
What happened to almost universally accepted As likely? Is another well respected poster wavering?
We can’t have that. You may start a run on wavering.
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So you are in the fire regardless camp?
Even if things turn around ?
Ya know what that’s called ?
Obstinance
as I said as unlikely as it is- if you can’t adjust your opinion on a very positive conclusion to the season, you’re not a reasonable person .
As I told someone who seemed to be wavering: Talk to me in a month and I will listen.
same message to you.
I don’t need you to listen -
You answered the question.
Your opinions on the internet won’t matter , and neither do mine or anyone else’s .
I’ll just show up and cheer, donate , and support the program as I can .
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the football season , so perhaps I’m just more optimistic that things aren’t fait accompli
Lyke just simply has to see the empty Pete. Forget what Capel told the ACC audience the other morning. And what he’ll push forward to Lyke. Yeah, he played the first game with one guard..yadda…yadda. It’s still a bigtime business at last peek. Apathetic atmosphere will weigh heavily on his ability to align Lyke’s thinking with his.
I don’t really agree. I think the 2018 team did have some heart. They were just incredibly talented challenged.
I also think that despite their talent-challenged nature, their subsequent college careers showed that they weren’t coached in a way that got the most out of the talent that they did have.
in any case, it doesn’t matter anymore, and the comparisons can (hopefully) end.
As hopeful as we are after a win today, it still comes down to butts in the seats and $$$. The Pete is still more than half empty and the program is losing money. It will take a lot more wins like today to get this program even close to being on par with the last year of Dixon's tenure.
What are you talking about? Official attendance today, 8,431. That's way more than half full!
No, really, stop laughing, that was the official attendance for today.
That team played defense - hence no heart in my world
This team is likewise lacking in talent - but plays way harder on both ends
we were damned efficient on both ends today - and won going away .
Never was an option with stallings
The current team is way more talented than the Stalling's teams. It is really not that close. They lack the talent to compete with the top teams, but in this conference, that is really Duke and NC. I just want them to defend everytime out. If they do, they have enough talent to keep me interested. Maybe, just maybe they will improve instead of fade as the year goes.
Will point out my typo
Stallings team played no defense
This one grinds on both ends
Gueye is one of the most pleasant surprises
Burton reminds me of what we thought that ecu transfer was-just a baller.
We arent a good team -
But having Nike getting the pt eze gets and we win a few more games
i think capel gets another season - and hope he infused more lately with recruits and transfers
IMHO, the only way Capel is gone by the end of this season is if the team quits playing hard and together plus there are no recruits or transfers added by the end of the ACC tournament.
Otherwise, Capel &Co. are back for at least one more season, I believe. No inside info--just a personal opinion.
This thread is absurd. Six pages of Gary defending quite possibly the worst Pitt basketball coach of all time.
Man to man this team is better. Hugley is way better than anyone on that team including Marcus Carr. Burton is as good or better than JWF. Gueye is far superior to Brown.
Like come on. This team is bad but the Stallings team was historically bad.
Man to man this team is better. Hugley is way better than anyone on that team including Marcus Carr. Burton is as good or better than JWF. Gueye is far superior to Brown.
Like come on. This team is bad but the Stallings team was historically bad.
Right now, this Pitt team is playing defense and rebounding. We're normally not going to outscore any team if the scores get into the 70's or beyond. We don't score like that. But if we can play defense and rebound, we'll be in most games and will win some, like we did yesterday.
Let's not make this more complicated than it is. It's about defense and rebounding (and limiting turnovers) if Pitt is to win. You can throw all of the fancy plays and schemes out there that you want. This Pitt team absolutely must play great defense and rebound if they have any hope of getting to more than 7 or 8 ACC wins this year. They did that yesterday.
Let's not make this more complicated than it is. It's about defense and rebounding (and limiting turnovers) if Pitt is to win. You can throw all of the fancy plays and schemes out there that you want. This Pitt team absolutely must play great defense and rebound if they have any hope of getting to more than 7 or 8 ACC wins this year. They did that yesterday.
Love your optimism as to what this team could be capable of doing. Would like to believe you are correct.
However, IMHO, just getting to anything like 7-8 ACC wins (vs 3-4) will take playing great defense and rebounding extremely well. Doing better than 7-8 wins isn't feasible no matter how well this team plays--not enough talent and 3-ball shooting ability, IMO.
My question is: Are we closer to the team that lost to Syracuse or that beat Louisville?
Also: Can we really compete playing mostly five with one a walk on?
What is Jeffress best position? is he an inside scorer or an outside scorer? is he strong enough to play against big, older players? is he quick enough to play against quick, athletic players?
is it unthinkable that Payton or Oladapo might be better choices than Jeffress and Collier? Collier is quick and athletic, he is not strong or experienced. Collier can help on defense, but when locked on his man, offers little resistance. I would like to see older, stronger, more capable of contributing on offense replace the younger, weaker, offensive black holes that are Jeffress and Collier. Maybe even gain a made free throw or two.
Capel seems determined to continue to play a hand that has been a proven loser.
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What’s your fascination with Jeffress ?
With the loss of Nike and Horton he was the next man up in the rotation . Without the loss of those two players his minutes would be severely curtailed .
So far in games he’s shown clearly that he’s not ready offensively for extended play . Obviously from what the coaches see in practice, which we don’t see , he deserves the minutes he’s getting or they’d be using other players .
Go with it .
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