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Ok, I officially think this team is much better than Stallings last team..... and arrow is up...

Well said.

I get pulling for this team, it is playing hard and it does seem to have chemistry. I said we could get better if Burton shook of the dust, Horton came back and we played Jeffress and Collier less.

All of that is well and good, but is delusion to think if everything had gone right this team could have won 20 games. The talent is just not there. Everyone is extremely inconsistent and there is no margin for error. Talk about this team with everyone coming back being good is insane.


it also seems that people are trying to mitigate how bad this team is or elevate them somehow by kicking the dead horse that was the 2017-2018 team. (See thread title)

That team will live in Pitt infamy, but let’s have a little context versus this team When kicking them:

That team in my mind, played a harder schedule, OC and league. While this team has suffered personnel losses in Nike and Horton, I think the loss of Luther for all league games was a bigger loss. He was the only semi competent big. It would be the equivalent of losing Hugley for this team.

Finally, regarding the overall rosters. 2017-2018 was the second year of the regime and first year of the rebuild, This is the fourth year of this regime and third year of the (first) rebuild.

in conclusion, this team needs evaluated by itself, not comparison. That evaluation needs based on its entire body of work, not a five game snap shot. The teams needs evaluated on its talent and future secured talent.

Capel needs evaluated on his entire body of work.

I have enjoyed watching the last five games. Horton may be coming back soon.

I am for letting the rest of the season play out, but would be lying if I said I expected the rest of the season to look like the last 5 games. Talent and consistency seems very likely to bite us more often than not.
Does it look that crazy now, given what the team looks like with Horton being back to full duty, and if Nike was back? Saying we could have 17 or 18 wins right now is not in the least crazy.
 
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back up here
stallinga went 8-5 in ooc that 0-18. capel is not close to that and has far WORSE ooc losses than stallings did
capel will not go 0-18 only because of how bad the acc is this year. but say capel is no where close to stallings at this point is non sense.
he has been worse at the same point in the season
woof.
 
The biggest knock against this program and coach remains the same as it was all season....Capel can't recruit. Recruiting is the lifeblood of college sports and Capel has failed miserably. Now if he can somehow sign a top 50 elite 2022 kid out of high school and get a few very high quality transfers from the portal, he can start to salvage this program, assuming he can keep them.
 
lolol. stallings was in a much harder acc.

btw the topic at that time was the season to date. which you had yet another non factual skewed atgument for.

hey everyone we beat three more crappy teams in the worst acc conf in 40 yrars.

woof.

hows jeffs lap? is it warm? does he tip well? wipe your chin
 
lolol. stallings was in a much harder acc.

btw the topic at that time was the season to date. which you had yet another non factual skewed atgument for.

hey everyone we beat three more crappy teams in the worst acc conf in 40 yrars.

woof.

hows jeffs lap? is it warm? does he tip well? wipe your chin
Lol. Woof.
 
Lol. Woof.

You're pathetic. You get on here crowing about a Pitt basketball program that will finish below 0.500 overall and have a losing record in a weak ACC. Do you know how foolish you sound?

Go ahead and enjoy a win over a mediocre UNC team, that's your right. But quit with the constant trolling other posters who don't agree with you and acting like some little kid. Like I said, you must be 10 years old. Are you even in middle school?
 
You're pathetic. You get on here crowing about a Pitt basketball program that will finish below 0.500 overall and have a losing record in a weak ACC. Do you know how foolish you sound?

Go ahead and enjoy a win over a mediocre UNC team, that's your right. But quit with the constant trolling other posters who don't agree with you and acting like some little kid. Like I said, you must be 10 years old. Are you even in middle school?
Nope, I’ll continue to call out clowns like Gary .
 
I think Capel could at least have guided the senior Pitt team to a tourney birth the year after Dixon left. The transfer portal changed the game and had odd timing. If Johnson, Toney, McGowens could not have transferred and he brought in Gueye, Hughley, Horton, Burton, etc., that is a pretty solid 7-8 this year. I am willing to wait one more year. People wanted Duzz gone as early as the third game this year and chances are we get another Stallings and not an improvement.
 
I think Capel could at least have guided the senior Pitt team to a tourney birth the year after Dixon left. The transfer portal changed the game and had odd timing. If Johnson, Toney, McGowens could not have transferred and he brought in Gueye, Hughley, Horton, Burton, etc., that is a pretty solid 7-8 this year. I am willing to wait one more year. People wanted Duzz gone as early as the third game this year and chances are we get another Stallings and not an improvement.

I tend to agree with most of what you said. I'm also willing to wait another year, partly because I don't think Capel is going anywhere and we have to give him another year. Play the hand you're dealt.

Capel is better than Stallings, but a middle school coach is better than the sleepy Stallings we had for 2 years. So that isn't saying much.

But as I said before, Capel's downfall is and continues to be his total lack of recruiting. Maybe he can get lucky in the portal and get another Gueye or Burton, but not likely. I love the way Gueye plays on both ends of the floor and regret that we only have him for 1 year. I don't have much confidence in Capel's recruiting ability until he proves otherwise and can KEEP the guys he does recruit.

If we made the change and dumped Capel, I don't think "chances are we get another Stallings". We would likely get someone at least equivalent to Capel and hopefully better.
 
Nope, I’ll continue to call out clowns like Gary .

For what purpose? It's childish and infantile and proves nothing except your immaturity. It certainly doesn't prove that Gary is wrong and you're right. People are here with different opinions and we all share them. If you don't agree with someone, tell them your opinion. Unless someone is blatantly attacking you or making threats, who cares what they think?
 
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