Only 2 for the ACC?

[Sean Miller Fan]

Duke, UNC, and VT are the only 3 inside the NET Top 50 but VT is 9-7.

I am crossing my fingers its only Duke and UNC because the league needs a "Come to Jesus" meeting. Basketball matters in the ACC but the SEC has made them their b!tch. I'm not sure what the league can do but one idea would be for the league to have a minimum coaching salary. Inotherwords, cheapo mid-major hires not allowed. Gotta make SEC-type hires.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Duke, UNC, and VT are the only 3 inside the NET Top 50 but VT is 9-7.

I am crossing my fingers its only Duke and UNC because the league needs a "Come to Jesus" meeting. Basketball matters in the ACC but the SEC has made them their b!tch. I'm not sure what the league can do but one idea would be for the league to have a minimum coaching salary. Inotherwords, cheapo mid-major hires not allowed. Gotta make SEC-type hires.

How much would you like to wager that the ACC has more than 2 teams in the NCAA tournament?

 

[DT_PITT]

How much would you like to wager that the ACC has more than 2 teams in the NCAA tournament?

Probably four.

 

[WillFerrell]

ACC will be much better next year.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

How much would you like to wager that the ACC has more than 2 teams in the NCAA tournament?

It will get more than 2. Probably 4 but a chance for 2. This is the worst the ACC has ever been. It has a network. Something has to change.

 

[gary2]

It will get more than 2. Probably 4 but a chance for 2. This is the worst the ACC has ever been. It has a network. Something has to change.

How many coaches get fired this season?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

one idea would be for the league to have a minimum coaching salary.

Of all the absolutely ridiculous ideas you have espoused this right here is on the short list of the most crazy.

 

[gary2]

Of all the absolutely ridiculous ideas you have espoused this right here is on the short list of the most crazy.

How about heavy incentive contracts, with some slight penalty for lack of performance. Maybe just reductions in buyout?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Of all the absolutely ridiculous ideas you have espoused this right here is on the short list of the most crazy.

Drastic steps need to be taken from the league. I don't think they can do nothing. You have any ideas?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

How about heavy incentive contracts, with some slight penalty for lack of performance. Maybe just reductions in buyout?

Why would the league mandate any of that?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Why would the league mandate any of that?

Because it is a horrible basketball league and that's embarrassing AF. Its the Atlantic 10 + Duke and UNC

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Drastic steps need to be taken from the league. I don't think they can do nothing. You have any ideas?

I think the league should fine every school in the conference that doesn't make the tournament one billion dollars. Then they can take those billions and billions of dollars and give them back to the schools so they can all build brand new, state of the art facilities with all the best of everything, and they can use those billions to hire all the best head coaches and assistant coaches. And they've still have a few billion left over to pay all the top high school players to go to ACC schools, giving the ACC a monopoly on all the best talent.

All that is only slightly more absurd than your idea that the ACC should force the schools to spend a certain amount of money on their basketball coach.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Because it is a horrible basketball league and that's embarrassing AF.

If the quality of ACC basketball is that embarrassing to you perhaps you ought to find another hobby.

Preferably something that doesn't involve interacting with the public at large.

 

[gary2]

Why would the league mandate any of that?

Not saying the league would mandate that. Suggesting schools wanting to win dictate it to replace the coaches they will be firing.

Too many unsuccessful coaching hires are the expensive, burned out recycled.

 

[DT_PITT]

Of all the absolutely ridiculous ideas you have espoused this right here is on the short list of the most crazy.

He's creating a pretty long short list.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Not saying the league would mandate that. Suggesting schools wanting to win dictate it to replace the coaches they will be firing.

Well right, an individual school might want to try something like that. SMF is suggesting that the league mandate stuff like that, and that's simply never going to happen.

Now as to your idea specifically, the reason why schools don't do something like that is because it severely limits their pool of potential coaches, because no coach with any other options is going to agree to something like that.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

He's creating a pretty long short list.

Soon we will be to the point where we are going to need to make a short list for the short list.

 

[DT_PITT]

Why would the league mandate any of that?

Details. SMF is a big picture guy.

But you have proven your value too with the billion dollar fine idea. That's some quality stuff.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I think the league should fine every school in the conference that doesn't make the tournament one billion dollars. Then they can take those billions and billions of dollars and give them back to the schools so they can all build brand new, state of the art facilities with all the best of everything, and they can use those billions to hire all the best head coaches and assistant coaches. And they've still have a few billion left over to pay all the top high school players to go to ACC schools, giving the ACC a monopoly on all the best talent.

All that is only slightly more absurd than your idea that the ACC should force the schools to spend a certain amount of money on their basketball coach.

Or perhaps mandate a minimum basketball budget. These are doable steps.

 

[pittjas]

Or perhaps mandate a minimum basketball budget. These are doable steps.

Pitt is spending a lot of money on basketball. Most of these schools are.

 

[gary2]

Well right, an individual school might want to try something like that. SMF is suggesting that the league mandate stuff like that, and that's simply never going to happen.

Now as to your idea specifically, the reason why schools don't do something like that is because it severely limits their pool of potential coaches, because no coach with any other options is going to agree to something like that.

Place a bet on your ability to pick a winner,( someone also willing to bet on themselves) rather than buy someone else’s winner.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

He's creating a pretty long short list.

Soon we will be to the point where we are going to need to make a short list for the short list.

 

[DT_PITT]

Or perhaps mandate a minimum basketball budget. These are doable steps.

I'm for tar and feathering coaches whose teams don't make the tournament.

Our perhaps just put them in the stocks and pillory in downtown Greensboro so that they can begin to experience the public shame you have to endure as an ACC fan.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Well right, an individual school might want to try something like that. SMF is suggesting that the league mandate stuff like that, and that's simply never going to happen.

Now as to your idea specifically, the reason why schools don't do something like that is because it severely limits their pool of potential coaches, because no coach with any other options is going to agree to something like that.

The ACC is going to do something from a league-wide perspective. I don't know what it will be but they will do something. This is essentially the "Stallings" era right now for ACC Basketball. ESPN is paying them a lot of money and gave them a network. They have to give them interesting content.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Take a risk on your ability to pick a winner,( someone willing to bet on themselves) rather than buy someone else’s winner.

That's great, but when you are taking a risk on your 11th to 15th best candidates instead of your 1st to 5th best candidates you are simply asking for trouble.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Our perhaps just put them in the stocks and pillory in downtown Greensboro so that they can begin to experience the public shame you have to endure as an ACC fan.

We can use the billions to help pay for rotten vegetables for the fans to throw at them!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Pitt is spending a lot of money on basketball. Most of these schools are.

They obviously need to spend more, specifically in the HC category.

 

[pittjas]

They obviously need to spend more, specifically in the HC category.

No they don’t. Plenty of coaches who would do better here and we could get for cheaper.

We’re getting fleeced. Money isn’t the issue.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

In another post, you said this Pitt team is "not that far away." Well, all we've done is play close games with the other bad-to-mediocre teams in the conference. So if Pitt isn't far away, then neither are Notre Dame, BC, Louisville, Virginia, etc. And Syracuse might be vying for a Final Four soon. So the conference must be in good shape.

 

[KennyHeisman8]

How many coaches get fired this season?

Not Capel. I hope he gets a 20 year extension.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Details. SMF is a big picture guy.

But you have proven your value too with the billion dollar fine idea. That's some quality stuff.

This "Big Picture" guy is trapped in the immediacy bias of an off year for the ACC. He is conflating a most likley quickly passing one season "problem" into a totally dire "sky is falling" catastrophe.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

It’s the weakest I remember ever and can’t help thinking that 15 schools diluting the product right now especially with the fb schools investing more in it.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

The ACC is going to do something from a league-wide perspective. I don't know what it will be but they will do something. This is essentially the "Stallings" era right now for ACC Basketball. ESPN is paying them a lot of money and gave them a network. They have to give them interesting content.

The content is interesting to most fans, especially ACC fans, even if it is an off year.

 

[pittchagg]

I’ll be surprised if there are fewer than five by the time it’s all said and done.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

This "Big Picture" guy is trapped in the immediacy bias of an off year for the ACC. He is conflating a most likley quickly passing one season "problem" into a totally dire "sky is falling" catastrophe.

The conference got 7 teams in last year, which sounds good but that's less than 50% of your league, which isnt good. But beyond that, the seeds were terrible. No 1, 2, or 3 seeds.

4, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11

2-5 in the 1st Round
2-0 in 2nd Round
0-2 in Sweet 16

The league is on a downward trajectory with no end in sight. Its not a 1 year thing.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

It’s the weakest I remember ever and can’t help thinking that 15 schools diluting the product right now especially with the fb schools investing more in it.

I don't think its 15 team thing. Its simply a matter of coaching. The SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, and even Big East have better coaches.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

It’s crazy so many fb schools have caught up or passed bb blue bloods.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

It’s crazy so many fb schools have caught up or passed bb blue bloods.

Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas

Spend money on coaches