Orange Bowl off NY eve, back to prime time

[TIGER-PAUL]

The College Football Playoff has moved the times for the New Year's Eve semifinals back 1 hour each and announced that the Orange Bowl will now be played in primetime on Friday night, Dec. 30


http://www.usnews.com/news/sports/a...tball-playoff-moves-semis-to-earlier-kickoffs

 

[Swervin27]

was this article confusing to anyone else?? The headline says it is being move back 1 hour but it says the coverage begins at 3pm this year, compared to the Clemson game last year being at 4pm? Isnt that moving it an hour ahead?? IF this is being moved back an hour, at 5pm and having the second game at 8 or 9(ish), I am in favor of this. No brainer really, people work til 5 usually and by the time someone gets home, the first game is already 1/2 over..

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

It is only confusing because the people who run college football run it like professional boxing instead of like the NFL. Nobody is looking after the greater long term good of the sport, only their short term narrow self interests.

The rules are constantly changing to suit the elites and it's impossible for the fans to keep up.

Basically, if I have it right, this is how this lineup will likely look:

Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 3 p.m.: Peach Bowl
Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 7 p.m.: Fiesta Bowl

Sunday, Jan. 1, 2017, 8 p.m.: Orange Bowl

Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 1 p.m.: Cotton Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 5 p.m.: Rose Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 8:30 p.m.: Sugar Bowl

This is being done to placate the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls by giving all three "primetime" slots.

If the NFL is running a Sunday night game that week, which I imagine they will, the Orange Bowl clearly gets the worst end of the deal because the NFL game will draw better television ratings whereas the other two nights are unopposed.

I know people are going to find this statement to be over-the-top but I sincerely don't think the people running the playoff know what the hell they're doing.

You are running two games on New Year's Eve while everyone is out partying and another up against NFL games on a Sunday night? With all due respect, that's insane. Your ratings are going to suck worse next year than they did this past year when they were historically bad. What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Swervin27]

It is only confusing because the people who run college football run it like boxing instead of like the NFL. The rules are constantly changing to suit the elites and it's impossible for the fans to keep up.

Basically, if I have it right, this is how this lineup will likely look:

Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 3 p.m.: Peach Bowl
Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 7 p.m.: Fiesta Bowl

Sunday, Jan. 1, 2017, 8 p.m.: Orange Bowl

Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 1 p.m.: Cotton Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 5 p.m.: Rose Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 8:30 p.m.: Sugar Bowl

This is being done to placate the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls by giving all three "primetime" spots.

If the NFL is running a Sunday night game that week the Orange Bowl clearly gets the worst end of the deal because the NFL game will draw better television ratings whereas the other two nights are unopposed.

Thanks DVY. Ok well the whole Saturday thing mixes things up a bit.. If memory serves me correct, last year's games were on a Thursday on NYE.. If and when NYE falls on a weekday, I think they should go for later kickoff times, say 5pm - 8:30pm..

I guess 3 and 7 work as much as anytime on a Saturday but would be horrible for a weekday. I know we all like to call it quits early at the office on New Years eve and all..

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

While we are talking about this, I don't understand why college football stages it's championship game at 8:30 or 9 o'clock on Monday night? Honestly, I think that's very dumb, IMO.

Don't get me wrong, I get their reasoning. Monday night is a big night for television viewership and they probably want to make it like the NCAA men's basketball tournament, which is also played on a Monday night at 9 PM.

Personally, I think that is terribly shortsighted and foolish. It speaks to the boxing promoter mentality I described earlier.

A much better way for them to go would be to work it out with the NFL where they get one Saturday a few weeks before the Super Bowl that is Super Saturday very much in the mold of the NFL's Super Sunday. I truly don't think the NFL would mind that at all, as it would be a top-notch promotional vehicle for its still ongoing postseason.

This is not rocket science. Just emulate exactly what the NFL does leading up to the Super Bowl including all of the pre-game programming and pomp and circumstance. Then play the big game at 6 PM on a Saturday – the day most college football fans associate with that sport.

By doing it late on a Monday it starts to feel anti-climactic – which is the very last way you want your championship game described as being.

Also, by doing it that late on a week night you eliminate a large part of your young audience as they are in bed because they have school the next day. Hell, there are lots of adults that won't stay up to watch it if they don't have a stake in either team because they have work the next day.

College basketball games last about two hours - roughly the same amount of time as a movie of the week. With all of these spread offenses and archaic clock rules, college football games can last twice as long and sometimes more than that.

I know that it is a championship game and people love football at all levels but let's be honest with ourselves in a way the college football powerbrokers obviously can't be. People are not staying up to 1-2 AM to watch two teams they don't care about. Obviously, full-blown addicts like us will stay up to watch it but most normal people will not.

I am telling you, with the way things are trending, games are getting longer and longer and longer. It is completely out of control. One of these years we are going to get in Oregon/Baylor national championship game and it will start at 8:30 PM and end at 2:30 the next morning. That would be awesome! Perhaps we could have Chilly Billy or Matt Pinfield host the overnight affair?

I truly think a Super Saturday approach would dramatically change college football for the better and advertisers would like it as well as it would give them a cheaper alternative to the Super Bowl, who's rates are legendarily out of control.

 

[Swervin27]

Craziest (Yet possibly brilliant) suggestion of the day.. Drumroll please....... The nfl should move the super bowl to a Saturday.. Yes, I said it. I know Saturday evenings are bad tv nights and I know sunday is much better and ratings are good and all but with how big the super bowl is, it would transcend a typically bad tv night into a major party in this country, thus dominating the tv world and making what is a big day, an even bigger day..

OK, in reality I just miss getting fall down drunk for the superbowl and want to get back to that without having to go to work the next day with a hangover..

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Actually, in that same vein, I have seen some suggest that the NFL should move it's Super Bowl weekend back a week or two to Presidents' Day. That would make that Sunday feel like a Saturday for many people who would have off the next day due to the federal holiday.

I doubt they would ever do that but I have definitely heard far crazier suggestions.

 

[pitt-girl]

It is only confusing because the people who run college football run it like professional boxing instead of like the NFL. Nobody is looking after the greater long term good of the sport, only their short term narrow self interests.

The rules are constantly changing to suit the elites and it's impossible for the fans to keep up.

Basically, if I have it right, this is how this lineup will likely look:

Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 3 p.m.: Peach Bowl
Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 7 p.m.: Fiesta Bowl

Sunday, Jan. 1, 2017, 8 p.m.: Orange Bowl

Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 1 p.m.: Cotton Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 5 p.m.: Rose Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 8:30 p.m.: Sugar Bowl

This is being done to placate the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls by giving all three "primetime" slots.

If the NFL is running a Sunday night game that week, which I imagine they will, the Orange Bowl clearly gets the worst end of the deal because the NFL game will draw better television ratings whereas the other two nights are unopposed.

I know people are going to find this statement to be over-the-top but I sincerely don't think the people running the playoff know what the hell they're doing.

You are running two games on New Year's Eve while everyone is out partying and another up against NFL games on a Sunday night? With all due respect, that's insane. Your ratings are going to suck worse next year than they did this past year when they were historically bad. What the hell is wrong with you?

Isn't everyone going back to work and school January 2nd?

 

[NTOP]

Actually, in that same vein, I have seen some suggest that the NFL should move it's Super Bowl weekend back a week or two to Presidents' Day. That would make that Sunday feel like a Saturday for many people who would have off the next day due to the federal holiday.

I doubt they would ever do that but I have definitely heard far crazier suggestions.

I'd prefer they just cancel the whole thing. Flip a coin.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

It is only confusing because the people who run college football run it like professional boxing instead of like the NFL. Nobody is looking after the greater long term good of the sport, only their short term narrow self interests.

The rules are constantly changing to suit the elites and it's impossible for the fans to keep up.

Basically, if I have it right, this is how this lineup will likely look:

Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 3 p.m.: Peach Bowl
Saturday, Dec. 31, 2016, 7 p.m.: Fiesta Bowl

Sunday, Jan. 1, 2017, 8 p.m.: Orange Bowl

Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 1 p.m.: Cotton Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 5 p.m.: Rose Bowl
Monday, Jan. 2, 2017: 8:30 p.m.: Sugar Bowl

This is being done to placate the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar bowls by giving all three "primetime" slots.

If the NFL is running a Sunday night game that week, which I imagine they will, the Orange Bowl clearly gets the worst end of the deal because the NFL game will draw better television ratings whereas the other two nights are unopposed.

I know people are going to find this statement to be over-the-top but I sincerely don't think the people running the playoff know what the hell they're doing.

You are running two games on New Year's Eve while everyone is out partying and another up against NFL games on a Sunday night? With all due respect, that's insane. Your ratings are going to suck worse next year than they did this past year when they were historically bad. What the hell is wrong with you?

You are right. What the people running college football are failing to acknowledge, is much like the current Conservative wing of the Republican Party thinks. Not everyone is from Alabama or Oklahoma where they will drop everything to watch a college football game. They just don't seem to understand (or maybe they don't care) that people in major cities and with other things to do is not going to drop plans, alter traditions just to watch bowl games, regardless if they are "playoffs" or not.

This past year made no sense. New Year's Eve was on a Friday. New Year's Day was on a Saturday. College football has always played on a Saturday. But because of ONE GAME, the effing Rose Bowl, they completely altered what they wanted the playoffs to be. This sport is trying to move into the modern era, while still clinging on to 1975. And because of this ONE year, the 2 playoff games are going to played on NYE in the near future despite it not being the best for the sport! Just because they had to placate the Rose Bowl. Because the Rose Bowl can't move, right? Well....wrong. Because this year, the Rose Bowl will be played on January 2nd, because New Year's Day is a Sunday, and Sunday belongs to the NFL. Hypocrites!!!

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

What people have to realize, is we are all patsies. LOL. The West Coast fans get screwed by early Eastern starts (like Noon) during the season and the East Coast people get screwed by the lateness of the bowl games starting at 8:30 and having ridiculously long half time shows on top of it.

At least get the half time shows down to normal time, and start the pregame stuff early so the kickoffs are no later than 8:15. But again, the BCS Champ Game (whatever it is called) starting at 8:30 PM is 5:30 PM on the West Coast which screws people getting out of work and finishes after midnight on the East Coast which screws a lot of people who have to get up for work the next day!

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Basically, if I have it right, this is how this lineup will likely look:

Sunday, Jan. 1, 2017, 8 p.m.: Orange Bowl

You don't have it right. The Orange Bowl is going to be played on Friday, December 30. It will most likely start at either 8:00 or 8:30.

The people who run college football are not stupid enough to play one of their big bowl games at the same time as an NFL Sunday night national game.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

You don't have it right. The Orange Bowl is going to be played on Friday, December 30. It will most likely start at either 8:00 or 8:30.

The people who run college football are not stupid enough to play one of their big bowl games at the same time as an NFL Sunday night national game.

They are not that far off.