OT: All we need now is a Hoops Champ
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I do count the Pipers
The 1967–68 Pittsburgh Pipers season was the 1st season of the ABA. The Pipers finished first in the Eastern Division and won their first and only ABA title.[1]
The 1967–68 Pittsburgh Pipers season was the 1st season of the ABA. The Pipers finished first in the Eastern Division and won their first and only ABA title.[1]
Prior to national tournaments starting, Pitt was named national champions by Helms and Premo-Porretta for 1927-28 (21-0) and by Helms in 1929-30 (23-2).
Yes, these are as legitimate as every single national championship in football ever awarded prior to the playoffs.
NOPE, Pitt Football in ACC Winning a Championship First and Foremost is actually easier now than Winning a ACC Basketball Championship. Overcoming FSU, Clemson, and Miami in football is easier than overcoming UNC, Duke, CUSE, and ULou in Basketball! Football Rules and makes more money as well.
Also drew the top crowds in the league. Incredibly, the owner (Gabe Rubin, a name that will live in infamy) moved the team to Minnesota after that first season, where the franchise lost TONS of money. New ownership brought the team back to Pittsburgh as the Condors, but the fan base was alienated by Rubin's Minnesota caper and never came back. Had that not happened, the Pipers would likely have been one of the ABA franchises that survived and would be in the NBA today.
I went to a Pipers game, but didn't they win as the Condors?
Help me out. John.Brisker was our top gun when I saw them. Brisker mysteriously disappeared.
Naw, the Condors never posted a winning season, but yeah, Brisker was their star.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Condors
And yes, Brisker disappeared under circumstances that have yet to be fully explained.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brisker
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Yeah but with Hoops, you only need 2-3 players. And Cap come on, we won the Big East in BB, overcoming Syracuse, UConn, Villanova, L'ville, G'town, etc.....
That was all well before my time, but I just saw an article on John Brisker speculating that he was killed like in Uganda under the Idi Amin rule. Or something like that.
Seeing as how "we" havent had a championship in football or basketball since 1976, I would be happy with either. I think football is much closer, but basketball can be improved much more quickly. Selfishly, I like football better, so if I could only pick one it would definitely be football.
Eventually that ban was lifted--they settled a lawsuit Hawkins had filed against the NBA. (What all of that stemmed from is that he got caught up in something that these days is quite commonplace with the shady types who hang around AAU basketball )
Since the 68 Pipers had one of the all time great players in Connie Hawkins, of course we count them.
Dr. J before there was a Dr. J
Or any coach for that matter short of a Coach K, Cal, etc.. deciding by some miracle to come here.
