OT: Another plane crash today

[Sean Miller Fan]

Two dead in midair plane crash at Marana airport

"This is an unprecedented event, and we are grateful for the swift response from the Marana Police Department and Northwest Fire District.”

www.kgun9.com

This is beyond weird. Gotta be some good conspiracy theories out there. Maybe the New Jersey drones are shooting them down? But this is almost every day for the last month

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Two dead in midair plane crash at Marana airport

"This is an unprecedented event, and we are grateful for the swift response from the Marana Police Department and Northwest Fire District.”

www.kgun9.com

This is beyond weird. Gotta be some good conspiracy theories out there. Maybe the New Jersey drones are shooting them down? But this is almost every day for the last month

I think someone here will say it’s because the old FAA leader who didn’t know the first thing about airplanes was dismissed.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Two dead in midair plane crash at Marana airport

"This is an unprecedented event, and we are grateful for the swift response from the Marana Police Department and Northwest Fire District.”

www.kgun9.com

This is beyond weird. Gotta be some good conspiracy theories out there. Maybe the New Jersey drones are shooting them down? But this is almost every day for the last month

Maybe you are looking for more than is there. Look at page 2.

Monthly Aviation Dashboard

www.ntsb.gov

 

[HailtoPitt]

Got to look at each one independently. For the DC crash, the helicopter supposedly did not have the altimeter set correctly and was flying too high. For Toronto, the plane appeared to land too steeply and short, possibly because of a string cross wind and the pilot didn't have the right adjustment to account for it.

 

[Conemaugh]

Got to look at each one independently. For the DC crash, the helicopter supposedly did not have the altimeter set correctly and was flying too high. For Toronto, the plane appeared to land too steeply and short, possibly because of a string cross wind and the pilot didn't have the right adjustment to account for it.

Looked to me like the Toronto plane landed so hard the landing gear failed... a wing hit the ground, and then it flipped over.

Not a pilot, but damn that landing looked hard.

For the DC crash, that one has to have multiple layers of failure.....which is usually the case for extreme events.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Maybe you are looking for more than is there. Look at page 2.

Monthly Aviation Dashboard

www.ntsb.gov

The US averages 400 fatal crashes per year? I get that those would all be small private planes but man, that's really difficult to believe. I always thought it was interesting that life insurance companies ask if you are a pilot. Maybe those small private planes have a very high crash rate.

 

[Pitt666]

Small crashes happen often but haven’t been reported much nationally in past. It’s when major airlines keep going down where I would start to worry.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

It's ironic but the snow on the runway in Toronto likely saved all of their lives. It limited the friction and drag when the plane flipped over therefore keeping the fuselage intact and also limited the amount of jet fuel that was burning.

 

[BigChungus90210]

The US averages 400 fatal crashes per year? I get that those would all be small private planes but man, that's really difficult to believe. I always thought it was interesting that life insurance companies ask if you are a pilot. Maybe those small private planes have a very high crash rate.

The large passenger plane issues seem like kind of an anomaly, but it's largely media availability bias. Everyone was hyperfocused on the FAA, then plane crashes get more publicized than normal cause an adjacent topic is a hot issue, and people draw the conclusion that they're happening more frequently but they're really not.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The large passenger plane issues seem like kind of an anomaly, but it's largely media availability bias. Everyone was hyperfocused on the FAA, then plane crashes get more publicized than normal cause an adjacent topic is a hot issue, and people draw the conclusion that they're happening more frequently but they're really not.

I'd like to see the death rates on personal planes because 400/year seems like an awful lot. I know it's a big country but those death rates seem astronomical compared to other modes of transportation

 

[CJsE]

I'd like to see the death rates on personal planes because 400/year seems like an awful lot. I know it's a big country but those death rates seem astronomical compared to other modes of transportation

You can check every one of those accidents. That link is to the NTSB website and each one should have the investigation details available.

Also, 400 out of 15 million flights per year isn’t that much, like 0.000003%, but it’s still way above getting into a car.

 

[Pitt666]

You can check every one of those accidents. That link is to the NTSB website and each one should have the investigation details available.

Also, 400 out of 15 million flights per year isn’t that much, like 0.000003%, but it’s still way above getting into a car.

And there are about 40k car fatalities a year or about 100 deaths per day. Life can change in an instant. Control what you can control though. Wear a seatbelt. Make sure all passengers wear seatbelts. Dont drive while under influence. Dont text and drive.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

You can check every one of those accidents. That link is to the NTSB website and each one should have the investigation details available.

Also, 400 out of 15 million flights per year isn’t that much, like 0.000003%, but it’s still way above getting into a car.

It's not 15 million private/small aircraft flights. I'd wonder how many of those 15 million are these private/small planes that fall out of the sky on a daily basis. I'm just surprised by this. My guess is the death rate for these flights is much higher than driving, which is why life insurance companies ask about it.

 

[Jeffburgh]

And there are about 40k car fatalities a year or about 100 deaths per day. Life can change in an instant. Control what you can control though. Wear a seatbelt. Make sure all passengers wear seatbelts. Dont drive while under influence. Dont text and drive.

Only major accident I had was back in 1993 and I was on the way to work on a windy country cambria county road. There was a heavy ice storm the evening before, but the roads had been cleared and it was a bright sunny morning.

I had this old chevy celebrity, and just out of college no $ so it had really bald tires. I was driving the speed limit (45ish) coming off a crest into a left downward turning bend when I hit a spot that a penndot truck dumped WAY too much salt and lost all traction.

Went straight over the bank down the hill until I hit a tree square forward - it went halfway up my engine. No air bags at that point in time, but as I always did and always will had my seat belt on. Snapped by neck pretty good, but after a minute I was able to get out of the car and walk back to the road.

Never would have breathed another breath had I not been buckled in.

 

[Pitt666]

Only major accident I had was back in 1993 and I was on the way to work on a windy country cambria county road. There was a heavy ice storm the evening before, but the roads had been cleared and it was a bright sunny morning.

I had this old chevy celebrity, and just out of college no $ so it had really bald tires. I was driving the speed limit (45ish) coming off a crest into a left downward turning bend when I hit a spot that a penndot truck dumped WAY too much salt and lost all traction.

Went straight over the bank down the hill until I hit a tree square forward - it went halfway up my engine. No air bags at that point in time, but as I always did and always will had my seat belt on. Snapped by neck pretty good, but after a minute I was able to get out of the car and walk back to the road.

Never would have breathed another breath had I not been buckled in.

Appreciate you sharing and glad you are still here.

 

[MorningCoffee13]

Two dead in midair plane crash at Marana airport

"This is an unprecedented event, and we are grateful for the swift response from the Marana Police Department and Northwest Fire District.”

www.kgun9.com

This is beyond weird. Gotta be some good conspiracy theories out there. Maybe the New Jersey drones are shooting them down? But this is almost every day for the last month

This is a tiny rural airport. No conspiracy. Planes crash. A lot. Particularly private planes.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

And there are about 40k car fatalities a year or about 100 deaths per day. Life can change in an instant. Control what you can control though. Wear a seatbelt. Make sure all passengers wear seatbelts. Dont drive while under influence. Dont text and drive.

That's why I always bring a Rubik's Cube and a lengthy novel with me when I'm driving, so I'll have something to occupy my mind and keep me distracted from texting.

 

[Charles De Mar]

Two dead in midair plane crash at Marana airport

"This is an unprecedented event, and we are grateful for the swift response from the Marana Police Department and Northwest Fire District.”

www.kgun9.com

This is beyond weird. Gotta be some good conspiracy theories out there. Maybe the New Jersey drones are shooting them down? But this is almost every day for the last month

Or maybe there’s this.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

LOL! Krassenstein brothers are dolts.