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saw this on twitter. now not sure if the NIL offer is confirmed but lets just pretend it is. at what point do these guys tell the Nfl to piss off and stay in college?

I get it, sooner you get in nfl, sooner you get the clock rolling for that second contract and the huge pay off and the pension blah blah but man, this is crazy..

8m to take a class or two online, hang out at beautiful football facilities and play college football pretending to be a college student for 8m or go compete with the 3rd string qb to make a roster..

it's a no brainer.. plus, how many of these guys even make it to the 2nd contract.


 
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Zeldas Open Roof said:
saw this on twitter. now not sure if the NIL offer is confirmed but lets just pretend it is. at what point do these guys tell the Nfl to piss off and stay in college?

I get it, sooner you get in nfl, sooner you get the clock rolling for that second contract and the huge pay off and the pension blah blah but man, this is crazy..

8m to take a class or two online, hang out at beautiful football facilities and play college football pretending to be a college student for 8m or go compete with the 3rd string qb to make a roster..

it's a no brainer.. plus, how many of these guys even make it to the 2nd contract.


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Well, he's a rich kid so he doesn't need the money. He gets to be drafted and will likely be at least a #3 for Miami. The money is meaningless for this one.
 
pittdan77 said:
Well, he's a rich kid so he doesn't need the money. He gets to be drafted and will likely be at least a #3 for Miami. The money is meaningless for this one.
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His mom is an elementary school teacher and his dad has an oil and gas leasing business, which could be very lucrative or not. My guess is his dad isn't making more than 500K/year so yea, Ewers is a "rich kid" but he's not "rich rich."
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
His mom is an elementary school teacher and his dad has an oil and gas leasing business, which could be very lucrative or not. My guess is his dad isn't making more than 500K/year so yea, Ewers is a "rich kid" but he's not "rich rich."
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he's probably already made over a few million. this is the kid that left high school a year early and went to tosu and got nil money, when he was 17. something about a law in texas that didnt allow high school kids to make money.

then he transferred back to texas, im sure was given a nice offer. so no, i dont think he's going to be hurting on cash but still, 8m vs 800k is a big difference.
 
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saw this on twitter. now not sure if the NIL offer is confirmed but lets just pretend it is. at what point do these guys tell the Nfl to piss off and stay in college?

I get it, sooner you get in nfl, sooner you get the clock rolling for that second contract and the huge pay off and the pension blah blah but man, this is crazy..

8m to take a class or two online, hang out at beautiful football facilities and play college football pretending to be a college student for 8m or go compete with the 3rd string qb to make a roster..

it's a no brainer.. plus, how many of these guys even make it to the 2nd contract.


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I doubt he was offered $8 million. No one can be THAT dumb. I'd tbink $3 million-$5 million.

Bottom line - you should only come out if you are a guaranteed 1st Rounder, maybe maybe a 2nd Rounder. If there's no guarantee you'd go in the 2nd Round, you should stay. Do less work for more money. You also get free food, free housing, and free classes in college. The extra classes may not be worth much but the food and housing are.
 
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His mom is an elementary school teacher and his dad has an oil and gas leasing business, which could be very lucrative or not. My guess is his dad isn't making more than 500K/year so yea, Ewers is a "rich kid" but he's not "rich rich."
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The oil and gas leasing business grossed $15 billion last year. Up $1.5 billion. People who run companies like that aren't making $500k per year.
 
Zeldas Open Roof said:
he's probably already made over a few million. this is the kid that left high school a year early and went to tosu and got nil money, when he was 17. something about a law in texas that didnt allow high school kids to make money.

then he transferred back to texas, im sure was given a nice offer. so no, i dont think he's going to be hurting on cash but still, 8m vs 800k is a big difference.
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He's not going to be hurting but it still doesn't make it not the dumbest decision in NFL draft history. I mean I assumed he was a 1st Rounder when he decided not to come back.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
I doubt he was offered $8 million. No one can be THAT dumb. I'd tbink $3 million-$5 million.

Bottom line - you should only come out if you are a guaranteed 1st Rounder, maybe maybe a 2nd Rounder. If there's no guarantee you'd go in the 2nd Round, you should stay. Do less work for more money. You also get free food, free housing, and free classes in college. The extra classes may not be worth much but the food and housing are.
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yeah, that's my point. 5th round pick at QB, that is far from a sure thing to have a lucrative nfl career. for every tom brady getting drafted in the 6th and making it, there are 100 qbs who didnt finish out their rookie contract..

I mean at best, he could be a landry jones type of guy, backup qb for a 1/2 dozen years. a nice life no doubt but if these college guys are getting 5, 6 7M dollar offers to put the nfl off for a year, why not?

have another 6m in your account and go be a backup qb in your mid 20s for a few years before you get passed over vs doing the same a year earlier, 6m poorer. i say you choose door 1.
 
Some of you in here are making it very clear your Pitt education didn’t exactly lead to financial freedom. People involved in the oil and gas industry can make a lot of money, and not everyone is motivated by money.
 
BigChungus90210 said:
Some of you in here are making it very clear your Pitt education didn’t exactly lead to financial freedom. People involved in the oil and gas industry can make a lot of money, and not everyone is motivated by money.
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Yes, they CAN make a lot of money and perhaps his father does. I said I bet he makes no more than 500K. Anyone can start and oil and gas leasing business. I can start one tomorrow and make almost nothing. Or you can become very wealthy. Most likely he is somewhere in the middle. Rich, but not rich rich.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Yes, they CAN make a lot of money and perhaps his father does. I said I bet he makes no more than 500K. Anyone can start and oil and gas leasing business. I can start one tomorrow and make almost nothing. Or you can become very wealthy. Most likely he is somewhere in the middle. Rich, but not rich rich.
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There’s no way he’s a lowly 500K per year salaried employee. He is the founder of an oil and gas company and has a stake in a bank. The guy at minimum has 50 mil in the bank and more likely over a hundred mil.
 
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This kid is an outlier, a vast majority of players will stay that extra year to make NIL money and possibly improve their draft standings. But I can see some QB's opting for the draft if they can't find the ideal spot transfer wise in college, sure there's NIL money but the teams that want you might not have the coaching staff to help you, or there might be some competition for the starting job.
 
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Yes, they CAN make a lot of money and perhaps his father does. I said I bet he makes no more than 500K. Anyone can start and oil and gas leasing business. I can start one tomorrow and make almost nothing. Or you can become very wealthy. Most likely he is somewhere in the middle. Rich, but not rich rich.
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Does he own an oil and gas company or own a bunch of property that he leases to an oil and gas company? Either way, those are both fairly fruitful investments.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
I doubt he was offered $8 million. No one can be THAT dumb. I'd tbink $3 million-$5 million.

Bottom line - you should only come out if you are a guaranteed 1st Rounder, maybe maybe a 2nd Rounder. If there's no guarantee you'd go in the 2nd Round, you should stay. Do less work for more money. You also get free food, free housing, and free classes in college. The extra classes may not be worth much but the food and housing are.
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I doubted that $8MM number from the moment I heard it! Who's going to turn down that type of cheese to gamble on the NFL when you don't have to.
 
Zeldas Open Roof said:
he's probably already made over a few million. this is the kid that left high school a year early and went to tosu and got nil money, when he was 17. something about a law in texas that didnt allow high school kids to make money.

then he transferred back to texas, im sure was given a nice offer. so no, i dont think he's going to be hurting on cash but still, 8m vs 800k is a big difference.
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This. He likely doesn’t need the money. So he’s “moving on with his life’s work” as Chaz Knoll once said
 
Ewers wasn't one of those super old college QBs. He's only 22 so entering the draft at 23 wouldn't lower his draft stock. He was a college star who has the upside as an NFL backup, so making $3-4 million for one more year in college would've been worth it. If he was a guaranteed 1st or 2nd round pick, that's different. I also think it's different if a player is 25 and just wants to get away from being on the same team as 18 year olds.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
His mom is an elementary school teacher and his dad has an oil and gas leasing business, which could be very lucrative or not. My guess is his dad isn't making more than 500K/year so yea, Ewers is a "rich kid" but he's not "rich rich."
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How the F would you know, or even be able to guess, what his dad makes a year? As usual you have no idea what you're talking about, but will make random sh!t up like you do.
 
This kid wants to be a pro and had no desire to transfer and play another season elsewhere. He’s made some nice bank already.

I don’t understand the money mindset on here. When the Iowa State coach turned down Detroit’s 8 year/$62 million offer a few years ago people were saying money isn’t everything. Now Ewers is a fool for not staying in college another season instead of doing what makes him happy.
 
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How the F would you know, or even be able to guess, what his dad makes a year? As usual you have no idea what you're talking about, but will make random sh!t up like you do.
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There are no barriers to entry to start up an oil and gas leasing business. I can start one tomorrow and go to door to door trying to convince rural folks to lease me their mineral rights. I said I don't know how much his dad makes. His company could be extremely successful and he could be making 7 figures. Or it may not be. I said I guessed he doesn't make more than 500K. As further evidence of this, his mom still works as a public school teacher in Texas, where they make significantly less than the national average.

All I am saying is that it is not some slam dunk guarantee that the family is extremely wealthy like some of you think. Maybe they are and maybe they are not. It's still the worst NFL Draft decision anyone has ever made.
 
LeftCoastPanther said:
This kid wants to be a pro and had no desire to transfer and play another season elsewhere. He’s made some nice bank already.

I don’t understand the money mindset on here. When the Iowa State coach turned down Detroit’s 8 year/$62 million offer a few years ago people were saying money isn’t everything. Now Ewers is a fool for not staying in college another season instead of doing what makes him happy.
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Matt Cambell is making $4 million per year and turned down $7.75 million per year from the NFL. There's not much you can do with $7.75 million per year that you can't do on $4 million per year. The guy is very wealthy. This is completely different than Ewers, a guy who may be unemployed in a couple years, giving up one last chance to make $3 million to $5 million.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Matt Cambell is making $4 million per year and turned down $7.75 million per year from the NFL. There's not much you can do with $7.75 million per year that you can't do on $4 million per year. The guy is very wealthy. This is completely different than Ewers, a guy who may be unemployed in a couple years, giving up one last chance to make $3 million to $5 million.
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It was 8 for $68.8 million after a quick search. This board is always saying "take the money" until they say there are more things in life than money. Comical. Ewers was done with college football, period. He should've played another year just for the money and be unhappy at another university?
 
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Zeldas Open Roof said:
yeah, that's my point. 5th round pick at QB, that is far from a sure thing to have a lucrative nfl career. for every tom brady getting drafted in the 6th and making it, there are 100 qbs who didnt finish out their rookie contract..

I mean at best, he could be a landry jones type of guy, backup qb for a 1/2 dozen years. a nice life no doubt but if these college guys are getting 5, 6 7M dollar offers to put the nfl off for a year, why not?

have another 6m in your account and go be a backup qb in your mid 20s for a few years before you get passed over vs doing the same a year earlier, 6m poorer. i say you choose door 1.
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Most NFL backup QB's are more valuable as starters on P4 level college teams. So unless you are slam dunk 1st rd QB, you are best to max out your college eligibility as a QB. QB. Not RB. QB's can afford to wait and develop where RB's only have so many carries.
 
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He should've played another year just for the money and be unhappy at another university?
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Yes. If he is unhappy playing "pro football" for Oregon or USC or someone like that while taking 1 class, then he must have severe mental/emotional problems. It's not really "college football" anymore. The kid has possibly just a couple more years to make big money and he threw away several million. And let's not pretend his stock couldn't have risen. Pickett, Burrows, many others have risen their stock by coming back.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Yes. If he is unhappy playing "pro football" for Oregon or USC or someone like that while taking 1 class, then he must have severe mental/emotional problems. It's not really "college football" anymore. The kid has possibly just a couple more years to make big money and he threw away several million. And let's not pretend his stock couldn't have risen. Pickett, Burrows, many others have risen their stock by coming back.
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Maybe he just wanted to be associated with the NFL and not college football.
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Are you 12?
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I'm not the one who holds on to a point that is so obviously wrong that they need two threads and the backing of their burner accounts to defend it. You're also broadcasting the fact that you've never seen the inside of a locker room as anything but a tourist because there isn't a football player alive that doesn't want to be in the NFL in some way, shape, or form. Geez, how many movies have they made about this? There are guys who would cut a nut off to play one season in the league and you're here calling the kid a moron because he is about to do something that thousands of guys would envy. It just simply isn't about the money for this guy. Get over it.
 
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I'm not the one who holds on to a point that is so obviously wrong that they need two threads and the backing of their burner accounts to defend it. You're also broadcasting the fact that you've never seen the inside of a locker room as anything but a tourist because there isn't a football player alive that doesn't want to be in the NFL in some way, shape, or form. Geez, how many movies have they made about this? There are guys who would cut a nut off to play one season in the league and you're here calling the kid a moron because he is about to do something that thousands of guys would envy. It just simply isn't about the money for this guy. Get over it.
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Ok, so you just have the intelligence of a 12 year old, my bad. Times have changed, buddy. It's not 1988. College football is pro football now and your hero made the worst decision in NFL draft history. He is paying $3 million or more to play for 1 pro team instead of a different pro team, where he could have potentially improved like Pickett or Burrow and became massively rich next April

Just take the L like you are so good at and we can move on
 
Sean Miller Fan said:
Ok, so you just have the intelligence of a 12 year old, my bad. Times have changed, buddy. It's not 1988. College football is pro football now and your hero made the worst decision in NFL draft history. He is paying $3 million or more to play for 1 pro team instead of a different pro team, where he could have potentially improved like Pickett or Burrow and became massively rich next April

Just take the L like you are so good at and we can move on
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But you still might get tired of that scene.
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That isn't the reason. He would have been a full-time professional taking a gym class. He's just a complete dumbass to walk away from that money. Or maybe he was ready to retire from football so he can sit the bench in the NFL for a few years then start working for daddy's company, going door to door asking farmers to buy their mineral rights.
 
Zeldas Open Roof said:
saw this on twitter. now not sure if the NIL offer is confirmed but lets just pretend it is. at what point do these guys tell the Nfl to piss off and stay in college?

I get it, sooner you get in nfl, sooner you get the clock rolling for that second contract and the huge pay off and the pension blah blah but man, this is crazy..

8m to take a class or two online, hang out at beautiful football facilities and play college football pretending to be a college student for 8m or go compete with the 3rd string qb to make a roster..

it's a no brainer.. plus, how many of these guys even make it to the 2nd contract.


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