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OT: at what point does it make more sense to stay in college with NIL money

What college teams were trying to sign him?
There was a report during the CFP that Ewers was offered $6 million, I don't think the team was ever leaked. It also could've been a story leaked to distract him and Texas ahead of a playoff game.
 
If you are being offered more to play college rather than pro ball, it’s time to rethink your dream to play pro ball. The market place is an unbiased barometer of your ability in any endeavor.
 
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His mom is an elementary school teacher and his dad has an oil and gas leasing business, which could be very lucrative or not. My guess is his dad isn't making more than 500K/year so yea, Ewers is a "rich kid" but he's not "rich rich."
And you don't stay rich making the kind of business decision he did.
 
If you are being offered more to play college rather than pro ball, it’s time to rethink your dream to play pro ball. The market place is an unbiased barometer of your ability in any endeavor.
Since NFL rookie salaries are slotted that’s not necessarily true in all cases. Particularly at QB.
 
Not sure, but I bet Texas A&M and Oklahoma would've been interested.
Would either of them or another team at that level guarantee him the starting job? We don't know what his options were besides social media speculative gossip, if his offers were competing for a starting job at a P2 school or guaranteed starting job at the next level down with not the best coaching staff, passing on NIL money and getting into the NFL system isn't a totally bad option.

Also, I can see this kids agent pushing him on the idea that teams who need any kind of QB would draft them early, that didn't happen this year.
 
Would either of them or another team at that level guarantee him the starting job? We don't know what his options were besides social media speculative gossip, if his offers were competing for a starting job at a P2 school or guaranteed starting job at the next level down with not the best coaching staff, passing on NIL money and getting into the NFL system isn't a totally bad option.

Also, I can see this kids agent pushing him on the idea that teams who need any kind of QB would draft them early, that didn't happen this year.

He lead his team to the Final Four. Do you honestly think he wouldn't have been offered several million by somebody, anybody?
 
He lead his team to the Final Four. Do you honestly think he wouldn't have been offered several million by somebody, anybody?
Sure, but he might not have been guaranteed a starting job at a high profile school or he didn't want to play for the lower level schools or coaches that offered him. As I said earlier this kid is an outlier since his family is rich enough to go kill exotic animals, most players will stay in school another year and get the NIL payday.
 
Would either of them or another team at that level guarantee him the starting job? We don't know what his options were besides social media speculative gossip, if his offers were competing for a starting job at a P2 school or guaranteed starting job at the next level down with not the best coaching staff, passing on NIL money and getting into the NFL system isn't a totally bad option.

Also, I can see this kids agent pushing him on the idea that teams who need any kind of QB would draft them early, that didn't happen this year.
When you look at the projected starters for A&M and Oklahoma and their pedigrees, I would think they would both be interested.

A&M has a nice prospect in Marcel Reed. He did well in the opportunities he got last season. But he is still young. Going to be a RS Sophomore this year. I think

Oklahoma took a transfer from Washington State who hasn't yet accomplished what Ewers has. I would think they would've jumped at Ewers.

UNC may've been interested as well as they also took a transfer that is projected to start from South Alabama I believe.

ND is going to start a homegrown kid after going the portal route for their past 2 QBs. They may've been interested.

I'm not as well versed on the rest of the P4 teams and their QB plans. But As SMF said, Ewers took his team to the playoff. There would've been a ton of interest and definitely more $ in NIL than there is for an NFL rookie later rounder.
 
Sure, but he might not have been guaranteed a starting job at a high profile school or he didn't want to play for the lower level schools or coaches that offered him. As I said earlier this kid is an outlier since his family is rich enough to go kill exotic animals, most players will stay in school another year and get the NIL payday.

So to be clear, had Ewers entered the transfer portal, your contention is that it's possible that NOBODY would have offered him several million?
 
Another thing to keep in mind is that in college football, you can make 7 figures for 13 or so games. For NFL you are talking 3 preseason games and 17 regular season games.
 
So to be clear, had Ewers entered the transfer portal, your contention is that it's possible that NOBODY would have offered him several million?
I didn't say nobody would have offered him money, we have no idea who offered him, if he wasn't guaranteed a starting job or teams that offered had weak O-Lines, WR's or QB Coaches/OC's, maybe going to the NFL as a backup was the best for him long term. We also have no idea what was in the kids head and what his agent/advisors were telling him when the decision was made, they could have all been over confident that he'd kill it in the combine/team work outs and someone would take him early. He got drafted by the Dolphins, sure it was the 7th round, but Tua is one hit away from retirement and Zach Wilson stinks, there's a very good chance Ewers is starting this season.
 
Another thing to keep in mind is that in college football, you can make 7 figures for 13 or so games. For NFL you are talking 3 preseason games and 17 regular season games.
If you're going to view this from a single year, you're shorting yourself on dollars. The guy signed a 2-year deal that will net something like $4.3 million. Will likely do at least the same or better in two years. If he flames out in college in that one more, "super lucrative" deal, he'll be couple of million shy over four years. From a risk perspective, knowing that next year's draft class at QB is way better, this probably made sense if you look at it from a total value scenario where he risked slipping completely out of the draft if things go sideways. On the other hand, he could be worth three or four times more than that in two years and this won't look like a bad deal.

Roasting Ewers over this is dumb when you have daddy's boy losing tens of millions for acting like a turd. All Sanders had to do was show up and act like a likeable person and he's set. Instead, he's locked into five years at a really low number. Ewers is likely going to out earn daddy's boy over the next five years.
 
I didn't say nobody would have offered him money, we have no idea who offered him, if he wasn't guaranteed a starting job or teams that offered had weak O-Lines, WR's or QB Coaches/OC's, maybe going to the NFL as a backup was the best for him long term. We also have no idea what was in the kids head and what his agent/advisors were telling him when the decision was made, they could have all been over confident that he'd kill it in the combine/team work outs and someone would take him early. He got drafted by the Dolphins, sure it was the 7th round, but Tua is one hit away from retirement and Zach Wilson stinks, there's a very good chance Ewers is starting this season.

You are saying 2 things that both can't be true.

On the one hand, you seem to agree that somebody would have offered him several million but on the other hand, you are insinuating that these teams who made him a big money offer wouldn't have guaranteed him the starting job. Do you understand that that makes no sense. No one who is paying Ewers $3 million for 8 months is going to put him through a QB competition with some backup making 250K.
 
The guy signed a 2-year deal that will net something like $4.3 million.

I dont understand how anyone can be wrong about everything. I can ask you what color grass is and you'd say purple. I can ask you who the President is and you'd say Forrest Gump. You are just wrong about everything. Its a special talent.

He didn't sign a $2 million/year contract with the Dolphins.
 
You are saying 2 things that both can't be true.

On the one hand, you seem to agree that somebody would have offered him several million but on the other hand, you are insinuating that these teams who made him a big money offer wouldn't have guaranteed him the starting job. Do you understand that that makes no sense. No one who is paying Ewers $3 million for 8 months is going to put him through a QB competition with some backup making 250K.
A P2 team that wants to contend for a National Championship isn't going to guarantee him anything when it comes to starting, if the backup out performs him at spring practices and training camp, then that kid is #1 going into the season, the big time teams ideally want to bring in a few guys and go with the best one. There's no salary cap like the NFL, so bringing in a high priced free agent that could possibly get beat out by someone cheaper isn't that big of a deal.
 
A P2 team that wants to contend for a National Championship isn't going to guarantee him anything when it comes to starting, if the backup out performs him at spring practices and training camp, then that kid is #1 going into the season, the big time teams ideally want to bring in a few guys and go with the best one. There's no salary cap like the NFL, so bringing in a high priced free agent that could possibly get beat out by someone cheaper isn't that big of a deal.

So what you are saying is that some team would have paid this Final Four QB $3 million to enter an open competition with some young kid who has never played and that nobody, not one team out there, would have paid him $3 million AND guaranteed him a starting job?
 
So what you are saying is that some team would have paid this Final Four QB $3 million to enter an open competition with some young kid who has never played and that nobody, not one team out there, would have paid him $3 million AND guaranteed him a starting job?
We don't know who offered him what, we have no idea if his potential competition was some true freshman, a 5 star recruit, a transfer from a G5 school, a transfer from the ACC or Big 12, a P2 transfer, or a QB who's been there the past few seasons. Sure some team could have offered him a few million and a starting job, but what if they didn't have the best O-Line or receivers? Or had someone like Pat Narduzzi as head coach and Frank Cignetti Jr. as OC/QB Coach? Why not take a shot at the draft this year and instead of waiting a year when there's a deep QB talent pool.
 
We don't know who offered him what, we have no idea if his potential competition was some true freshman, a 5 star recruit, a transfer from a G5 school, a transfer from the ACC or Big 12, a P2 transfer, or a QB who's been there the past few seasons. Sure some team could have offered him a few million and a starting job, but what if they didn't have the best O-Line or receivers? Or had someone like Pat Narduzzi as head coach and Frank Cignetti Jr. as OC/QB Coach? Why not take a shot at the draft this year and instead of waiting a year when there's a deep QB talent pool.
It's implausible for someone who only deals in absolutes to consider anything realistic.
 
We don't know who offered him what, we have no idea if his potential competition was some true freshman, a 5 star recruit, a transfer from a G5 school, a transfer from the ACC or Big 12, a P2 transfer, or a QB who's been there the past few seasons. Sure some team could have offered him a few million and a starting job, but what if they didn't have the best O-Line or receivers? Or had someone like Pat Narduzzi as head coach and Frank Cignetti Jr. as OC/QB Coach? Why not take a shot at the draft this year and instead of waiting a year when there's a deep QB talent pool.

Do you think it is very safe to assume Ewers would have made $3 million as a college football starting QB? I mean this is an extremely safe assumption, maybe not? People are saying $5 million to $8 million and I don't believe those necessarily but he left a minimum of $2 million on the table with the potential of improving his stock like Joe Burrow, who was a 7th Round grade.
 
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