OT: Chiefs-Bills
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Thanks. Surprised we didn’t “go back to the well” after landing Zach Challingsworth a few years prior.
Aliquippa (rightfully) gets all the attention for WPIAL small schools, but South Fayette had a nice run for a few years with those two and the Brumbaughs playing at quarterback.
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I respect the heck out of Maholmes. And he’s a likable guy. But man I wanted to see Josh Allen get to the Super Bowl this time.
That 4th down stop(and review) changed the game. I guess I don’t have a problem with the call and review…but it looked like the official on the far sideline had it marked as a 1st down for the Bills.
The Chiefs, well any great team for that matter, always seems to get the calls.
There wasn’t anything egregious with the officiating. The Chiefs are just a really good team that is well coached and they have a great Quarterback.
This team is incredibly fortunate.
The spot did change the game another assist from the officials.
That said the tight end has to make that catch and Buffalo made several questionable decision the biggest taking the point off the board chasing points in the first half.
Not a Philly fan but I hope they win this one.
Yeah, it was pretty clearly a first down and a bad spot by the refs. Bills defense was still allowed to make a stop after the Chiefs got the ball.
You’re right. I wouldn’t say egregious but…
A couple things…Kelce taunted in the end zone for the 2nd straight week. No penalty. If it were George Pickens or anyone else, he gets flagged. In fact, this time he drew a personal foul after it that resulted in a 2 point conversion. Then there was the long punt return where there were at least three holds that weren’t called. There were a couple other WTF moments too. Oh, like the long completion where the ball clearly hit the ground. Reviewed and not reversed? Come on…
In the end, Buffalo had to make the stops and then they fell one play short.
This was the 12th one score win of the year for them and Spagnola always seems to dial up the right play call defensively at the right time. It’s uncanny.
He was on the other side of the play, though. Allen went to the left, and he was on the right side. The other ref had the better view. It was verrry close, and the evidence did not seem clear enough to change the original call.
Yeah that’s kinda how I see it too. My position is that they just always seem to get those calls. The great teams do. But here’s the thing…what the heck is Buffalo doing in those plays? They barely get any push.
Then there’s this.
I also thought there was an obvious block in the back on that punt return.
Credit to them for the courage to throw the ball in late game situations and go for it on 4th down in your own territory., something we need how to smartly do next year..
Credit to them for the courage to throw the ball in late game situations and go for it on 4th down in your own territory., something we need how to smartly do next year..
There was an obvious missed face mask that should have been called on Buffalo. There are missed calls every game. The best team won the game.
they tricked everyone into thinking they weren't as good this year, they were "lucky", seemed very beatable, yet won every game but one, last one doesn't count... better team won, they were to the Bills what the Bills were to the Ravens...
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Uh, the throw that was nearly intercepted pretty clearly hit the ground. Gene S. said as much, yet they still gave them a first and goal even after the review.
And the Allen 4th down play was an obvious 1st down, as the only official who could actually see the ball indicated... yet, somehow they went with the spot by the guy who Allen's back was turned to and clearly couldn't see the ball.
Holds and whatnot will get missed. But plays in the spotlight such as these? It's just getting old.
Cook was playing great and should have gotten more touches.
Everyone knew Allen liked to go left with the QB sneak. They should have mixed it up.
Everyone knew Allen liked to go left with the QB sneak. They should have mixed it up.
No doubt about that. Going in you know the 2 QB’s are pretty much a wash but Cook is a difference maker that wasn’t utilized enough.
Well, it just isn’t the Super Bowl unless meathead and his girlfriend (Kelce and Swift) are there! I know I’d feel lost without them!!
I've never disliked a player as much as I dislike Kelce. I'd rather hang out with OJ Simpson.
So if call reversed, the Chiefs get a first down anyway on the penalty (caught Hamlin dead to rights on it, ahem)...Eat up more clock and score anyways while at the same time not leaving the Bills time to score their td before the half (which they did)....really a nothing burger..
This! All of the conspiracy theory folks seem to leave this out.
Not on the penultimate play that changed the game with the Bills up 1 and driving to potentially go up two scores. That’s what I’m referring to. I don’t have major issue with the spot, as it was that close…but most of the world does have a problem with it.
Best way to put it…if it was 4th and a half yard, and the Chiefs were going for it, would Mahomes have gotten the spot? History and brains would tell you yes. That said, the Chiefs would have run a better play and left no doubt. Which is why I don’t have major issue with it.
Didn’t they change the rule a while back, the ball can hit the ground and still be considered a catch now? Didn’t look to me that the ball moved at all when it hit the ground, it was still firmly in the grasp of hands. Based on that, I don’t have any problem calling it a catch.
What I question more is who’s catch it was. The defensive olayer was definitely the one who first made the catch and had possession. Didn’t look like the defensive player ever really lost possession, only that the KC receiver got his hands around the ball along with the defender on their way down.
I’d call it an incompletion only because it didn’t seem fair to give the receiver the catch over the defender when the defender possessed the ball first and never really lost possession.
They did change the rule, it was a weird play that could have been called multiple ways, but as has been stated before their was a penalty and KC would have kept the ball and gotten a 1st down.
but doesn't the WR gets the tiebreaker on a mutual catch, and one can show possession with only one hand, so the DB kind of helped the ball stay secured thru the fall... should've just broke it off before the fall, inconsequential call anyways... it helped the Bills have more time to try and score...
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I actually think game locale has more to do with an instantaneous 6 inch one way or the other spot debate in a ref's head than the player, ie Allen gets the call in Buffalo...As with most conspiracy nuts who think these games are rigged it always comes down to (as it does with most off the wall conspiracy theories) who is in on it and how do they keep quiet about it which ends up making them look like lunatics. I mean did they get Allen to not get an extra half yard? Do they have clandestine NFL run secretive meetings to discuss their plan of attack? Why would a ref risk making himself look like a fool in front of millions of viewers? Does this help his career?
Yeah I understand there was a penalty so the only impact was the additional yardage gained by calling it a catch.
Yes the receiver gets the tiebreaker. I just thought as opposed to mutual possession the defender had more possession of the ball. In the end, as many have stated, it likely didn’t change things much either way it was called.
It's allowed to hit the ground. However, at the time it hit the ground, Worthy had one hand on top of it (not under it, and he most certainly did not have control of it) while his other hand was completely off the ball.
Thus, it was an absolutely awful call. The second it hit the ground, it had to be either an incomplete pass (what I feel it was) or an interception. There were no other options based on Worthy's hands' placement when it hit the ground.
guessing I am just less bias since I'm not a fan of either Team, unlike some of the fully invested dopes on some of these posted tweets, pretty pathetic IMO... (I'm gonna quit, gonna quit football! No, you're not, that translate to more "quality" time with your fat, annoying wife... just like a few in the Lair, aren't giving away their club seats, if they really have them to begin with... ) one thing the Bills surely need to do, is get a better d-line/defense and unPitt the games they should've won, having the playoffs run through Highmark, weather and all. Josh is unreal, just like Pat... The better Team won, fooled everyone this season, like I wrote earlier, only lost one game and IMO their defense is playing better than ever... that said, Cook gashed them at few times, should've been handled the ball more...
This is probably the worst roster Buffalo has had in a few years. But yeah - Allen just played out of his mind most of the season.
Chiefs only had nine 3rd down plays and converted 5 of them. Made it on 4th one more time so really only three stops. You have to get stops to win.
That’s not a drop
It was a terrible arm punt of a throw nowhere near a receiver
Until it’s the afc championship, then he gags
But I thought that the WPIAL didn’t have any talent coming out of it now??
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