OT: ESPN Insider 10 most overpaid cfb coaches

[marinomd]

James from State College comes in at # 9. To be fair in their top 10 unpaid coaches, Chryst was in the top 10 so take it for what it's worth.

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[CaptainSidneyReilly]

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They want payment to see so no one will see what you wanted posted. Maybe you can post what you think of their listings for all of us. I have quit going to ESPN less and less and going to CBS Sports more and more and other Sports Websites.

Here Is another But Older Article On The Subject:
LINK:
The 15 Most Overpaid Coaches In College Football
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/these-15-college-football-coaches-get-the-least-bang-for-the-buck-2012-6?op=1#ixzz3VRizmHWL



#1 Houston Nutt, Mississippi

#2 Kevin Wilson, Indiana

#3 Turner Gill, Kansas

#4 Randy Edsall, Maryland

#5 Mike Locksley, New Mexico

#6 Mack Brown, Texas (Resigned)

#7 David Cutcliffe, Duke

#8 Jerry Kill, Minnesota

#9 Kirk Ferentz, Iowa

#10 Will Muschamp, Florida (Fired)

#11 Gene Chizik, Auburn

#12 Derek Dooley, Tennessee

#13 Bob Stoops, Oklahoma

#14 Nick Saban, Alabama

#15 Mike Riley, Oregon State (HIRED MOREAT NU)
Various Older LINK: CFB COACHES RANKINGS CATEGORIES:

10 Most Overpaid: (Todd Graham & Paul Rhoads On This Lists)
LINK:
http://www.answers.com/article/1182122/10-most-overpaid-college-football-coaches

10 Revolutionary College Football Coaches: (CoachRod Listed)
LINK
http://www.answers.com/article/1196902/10-revolutionary-college-football-coaches

10 Best Active College Football Coaches (UP TO DATE)
LINK:
http://www.answers.com/article/1181327/10-best-active-college-football-coaches

10 Greatest College Football Coaching Rebuilding Jobs (Interesting List)
LINK:
http://www.answers.com/article/1196897/10-greatest-college-football-coaching-rebuilding-jobs

10 Worst College Football Coaches of the BCS Era (Steve Pederson Choice Makes List)
LINK:
http://www.answers.com/article/1180197/10-worst-college-football-coaches-of-the-bcs-era

10 Great College Football Coaches That Failed at the NFL Level
LINK:
http://www.answers.com/article/1196882/10-great-college-football-coaches-that-failed-at-the-nfl-level

ANOTHER LINK:
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/101912884/college-football-coach-salaries-overpaid-underpaid


Overpaid

1. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa ($4,075,000). Did you expect anyone else? Ferentz extended through 2020 back in 2010, after the Hawkeyes finished the 2009 season with an 11-2 record and an Orange Bowl win. That was a peak, because Iowa followed with records of 8-5, 7-6 and 4-8 the next three seasons before recovering to go 8-5 last year and currently hold a 7-3 record in 2014. With every bad loss, though, comes memories of just how committed Iowa is to Ferentz, who's been head coach since 1999: If fired, Ferentz's buyout grants him 75 percent of his salary through the remainder of it. There's still a long time until 2020, making every 20-17 loss to a bad Iowa State team and every 51-14 loss to Minnesota all the more painful.

Ferentz has done some good things at Iowa, with four seasons with double-digit wins and two BCS bowls, but the unimaginative type of football that Iowa plays, featuring lots of head-scratching losses, makes it feel ridiculous for Ferentz to be so high on the list -- above the likes of Gus Malzahn, Gary Patterson, Jimbo Fisher, Art Briles and others -- even if he's one of the most experienced coaches in the country.


2. Charlie Weis, Unemployed ($2,500,000). Weis was fired by Kansas on Sept. 28, after a 2-2 start. He is higher on the list than many notable names, including Wisconsin's Gary Andersen, Minnesota's Jerry Kill, Oregon's Mark Helfrich and Duke's David Cutcliffe, all of whom are successful people still coaching winning football teams. Weis mostly gets paid to not coach, and it gets better: Not only is Kansas on the hook after its baffling decision to hire him in the first place, but Notre Dame is still paying him too. That was three jobs ago, with a stop as Florida's offensive coordinator in between. Good work if you can get it. Weis finished 6-22 in two-plus seasons at Kansas, beating South Dakota State, South Dakota, Louisiana Tech, West Virginia, Southeast Missouri State and Central Michigan.


3. Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech ($2,605,300). Kingsbury is a promising coach with a sharp offensive mind who played a significant role in the meteoric rise of Johnny Manziel as Texas A&M's offensive coordinator in 2012. He's also just 35 years old and was given a subsequently been accused of giving out the team's signals to opponents. Things have been messy thus far.


4. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M ($5,000,000). Sumlin is fourth on the list, after he was given a new six-year, $30 million contract last December, following a disappointing season in which Texas A&M was ranked sixth in the preseason but finished 9-4. He's a great recruiter; he raised the profile of Texas A&M with Manziel in 2012; and he had instant success in a transition year to the SEC. Still, he's a decent 27-10 in three seasons with no conference titles and a midseason collapse this year (including a 59-0 loss to Alabama), and while Texas A&M appears to have a high ceiling under him, it seems a little soon for him to be making more money than several coaches who have won national championships (Urban Meyer, Les Miles, Jimbo Fisher). He may get there, and Texas A&M wanted to lock him up with interest coming from elsewhere, but that doesn't mean Texas A&M's output has reached that $5 million price tag yet.


5. Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia ($3,080,000). Holgorsen is one of the sport's brightest offensive minds, and West Virginia began turning things around this season after plummeting to 4-8 last year. The Mountaineers are 6-4 and could end up 7-5 at the end of the regular season with a loss to Kansas State, but they did beat Baylor and lose to TCU by only a point. Still Holgorsen, comes in at 23rd on the list, ahead of guys like Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss, Dan Mullen at Mississippi State, Bill Snyder at Kansas State and even his coaching mentor, Mike Leach. He could prove worth it, and this year's turnaround is promising, but the Mountaineers are 17-18 over the last three seasons.
Underpaid

1. David Cutcliffe, Duke ($1,840,341). Always underappreciated, USA Today's report places Cutcliffe as eighth among 11 reported ACC salaries. Ten years ago, he was fired by Ole Miss for going 4-7 after going 10-3 and losing Eli Manning. Now, he's one of college football's biggest bargains, given that he led Duke to an ACC Coastal championship. This is no small feat. Duke is bowl-eligible for the third straight season after not appearing in a bowl since 1994, and it could win 10 games for the second year in a row. Steve Spurrier left Duke for Florida after an 8-4 season in 1989, which was one of Duke's best years in decades. In other words, what Cutcliffe is doing is unheard of and something very few coaches could do. Duke doesn't have elite talent, but it is always well-coached and well-prepared, and yet Cutcliffe is one spot below Tim Beckman on the list. Evaluating private-school salaries can be dicey (again, Brian Kelly likely earns much more than the reported number), but regardless it's easy to believe that Cutcliffe is underpaid.


2. Bill Snyder, Kansas State ($2,900,000). It is very, very difficult to win at Kansas State, located in relatively isolated Manhattan, Kan. Need evidence? Just look at the went winless in back-to-back seasons before he took over and had been to one bowl game ever -- the 1982 Independence Bowl as a reward for going 6-4-1. After winning the program's first Big 12 title in 2003, Snyder had a couple sub-.500 seasons and subsequently retired. The program was handed to Ron Prince for three bad years, and Snyder returned to steer the ship back in the right direction, winning another Big 12 title in 2012 and keeping the team in contention this season. He's 29th on the list, behind plenty of names who have accomplished a whole lot less.


3. Doc Holliday, Marshall ($609,820). After a slow start to his tenure at Marshall with two losing seasons in his first three years, Holliday has put the Thundering Herd back on the map, going 10-4 last season and now sitting at a perfect 10-0 this season. The schedule might be laughably bad, continuing to leave Marshall out of the selection committee's top 25, but a major bowl bid is still possible for a team that struggled to stay relevant after the highs of the Bob Pruett/MAC era behind players like Randy Moss, Chad Pennington and Byron Leftwich. Now, Marshall is wiping the floor with the competition as the dominant program in Conference USA, where the 57-year-old Holliday is the fifth-highest paid coach. He's in line for a raise, unless he gets called up to a big job like Florida.


4. Mark Helfrich, Oregon ($2,000,000). Maybe Helfrich is exactly where he should be, and maybe this is a win for being reasonable. He's been the head coach for one full season, when Oregon went 11-2 but ended up in the Alamo Bowl, and it's to be determined how sustainable the program will be after the departure of Chip Kelly, plus the departure of potential Heisman winner Marcus Mariota. Still, Oregon -- Team Nike, with Phil Knight's billions behind it -- is at least getting a bargain when it's paying its head coach $2 million, which ranks 51st on the list, including below Mike MacIntyre at Pac-12 foe Colorado. It also might be getting a bargain considering it is paying far less than any other playoff contender, who are all paying at least $3 million.


5. Nick Saban, Alabama ($7,160,187). Can one be the nation's most expensive coach while also being underpaid? Sure, if you're Nick Saban. College football coaches in general are probably overpaid, but based on the current market, Saban might also be a steal. He's won three national championships and coached Alabama's first Heisman Trophy winner. He signs No. 1 recruiting classes. He has resurrected Alabama back to its status as the premier program in college football and the flagship program of the SEC, the sport's best and most powerful conference. Saban is one of the greatest coaches in the history of college football, and he has undoubtedly been worth every penny to Alabama.

 

[marinomd]

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Here's the copy and pasted info. Not sure I agree with Sumlin, Mullen, or Freeze, and definitely disagree on Dantonio. IMO too soon to tell with most of the others minus Ferentz who is not earning his $$.


1. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa

Estimated 2015 salary: $4 million

Iowa fans are already rolling their eyes. They've heard all this before because they've seen their school handcuffed for years by the worst contract in college football. If not for a buyout that at one point would have pushed $20 million, Ferentz likely would have been out. No, he definitely would have been out. Instead, because of an unheard of 10-year deal he signed after the 2009 season, Iowa continues to pay top-10 money for a program that isn't sniffing the top 10 in the polls. Coaches agree that Iowa isn't the easiest place to win, but the resources and facilities are well above average and the division is the most winnable in the country. For $4 million per season, the Hawkeyes should get something more -- far more -- than Ferentz's 6.8 victories a year since he signed the extension. As the buyout becomes more reasonable as the contract nears its 2020 completion, it'll be interesting to see at what point the administration is willing to pull the trigger.
2. Kevin Sumlin, Texas A&M[/B]

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Stacy Revere/Getty ImagesKevin Sumlin knows the pressure mounts in College Station.[/B]
Estimated 2015 salary:[/B] $5 million

Now entering year No. 4, Sumlin admitted to me in February that the next two or three seasons represent a defining time for his tenure at A&M. He's no longer new at the school, and the school is no longer new in the SEC. There are talented players on the roster. It's time to produce, even if the Aggies play in the most difficult division in the sport. Sumlin's salary was bumped a year ago to $5 million because A&M feared losing him to USC or the NFL. Even Steve Spurrier has dug at Sumlin for making so much without requisite results. As confident and as good of a football coach as Sumlin is, he is aware that he still has to prove himself. The players and resources are present. Now's the time.
3. Charlie Strong, Texas

Estimated 2015 salary: [/B]$5 million

It was clear Texas was going to handsomely pay whomever it hired to replace Mack Brown. Similar to Sumlin, Strong's track record does not seem commensurate with the paycheck. As good as Louisville was by the time he left, his resume does not yet suggest top-five pay. Unlike Sumlin, Strong is still relatively new so the pressure is not nearly as high. Yet. You know the wealthiest of the Texas Exes alumni are astutely aware of what the head coach is making -- and whether they're getting the value for their cash. Right now, the answer is no. But it's early. The next two seasons will be big for Strong and his staff to justify the hire and the price tag. In what every discussion of Texas football seems to boil down to, they really do need to find a quarterback.
4. Bret Bielema, Arkansas

Estimated 2015 salary:[/B] $4 million

Arkansas showed marked improvement in Bielema's second season. Still, the Razorbacks went 7-6 -- including a 2-6 mark in the league -- and yet Bielema was vaulted up alongside the coaches at the Mississippi schools after their upstart, borderline-breakout seasons. Bielema won 68 games at Wisconsin. He seems to have Arkansas moving in the right direction. It was still a big leap of confidence from AD Jeff Long and the school's administration for Bielema's recent extension and raise to top-10 money.
T5. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State and Hugh Freeze, Ole Miss

Estimated 2015 salaries:[/B] $4.25 million and $4.3 million, respectively

Speaking of those Mississippi schools and their recently extended coaches. … Their teams were among the best stories in college football in the first two months, but both lost steam down the stretch and suffered bad New Year's Six bowl defeats. Nevertheless, amid overtures from other programs, Mullen and Freeze were bumped up a million-plus a year. It's on them now to prove they weren't just one-year wonders -- or two-thirds-of-a-season wonders. On the meta level, it says a lot that Arkansas, Mississippi State and Ole Miss are willing to pay $4 million-plus for their coaches. They're not messing around in the SEC West. They're willing to shell out the cash that Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Texas A&M are. And that's why the division will continue to be the most difficult in college football.

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AP Photo/Orlin WagnerThe hope of his alma mater rests on Kliff Kingsbury's shoulder.
7. Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech

Estimated 2015 salary:[/B] $3.1 million

The Golden Boy returned to his alma mater, started the 2013 season 7-0 -- and then hit a wall. The Red Raiders are 5-13 since then. Their 4-8 mark in 2014 was the school's worst since 1990. A dizzying number of defensive coordinators have played a role in a lack of stability; Kingsbury is hopeful that David Gibbs is a settling force for that side of the ball.
8. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State

Estimated 2015 salary:[/B] $3.6 million

Dantonio has done a terrific job making Michigan State perennially competitive and relevant. However, thanks to a $2 million bonus for staying put which brought his 2014 compensation to more than $5 million -- money second only to Nick Saban but, as opposed to Saban, he has just one outright conference title to show for it.
9. James Franklin, Penn State

Estimated 2015 salary:[/B] $4 million

Franklin's ability to sell a program is unparalleled among major college coaches, but has he done enough to demonstrate he's worth this paycheck? The next few years will bear out that answer as Penn State attempts to rebound from its darkest days.
10. Chris Petersen, Washington

Estimated 2015 salary: [/B]$3.75 million

It's still too early to judge how this will work out for U-Dub and Petersen, but it was certainly a high price point to get him to leave Boise State. It feels like Washington hit the lotto to get Petersen, but Petersen is the one getting lotto money. It's time to prove his worth.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

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It is just one guy's opinion but I definitely agree with Sumlin at No. 2 and Coach Handsome at No. 3. Sumlin walked into a program loaded with high level NFL talent at Texas A&M and hasn't done a lot with it. Is he going to continue to have top five picks at OT? Is he going to continue to have Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks? Is he going to continue to have elite receivers? Is it going to have all of those things at the same time?

I know the SEC is very good but it seems to me like you should've done more with what he had.

Kingsbury is just another guy. His offense puts up a lot of points but everyone who runs that offense puts up a lot of points. Highly overrated.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Re: Marinomd, Thank You!

These are the School's, Athletic Directors & University President's driving up cost of all of College football whereby the cost has increased 4 to 1 compared to revenues. These few cause all increases in not only Coaching salaries but Staffs and University Athletic Departments.

After reviewing the various Links over the years, provided in different categories in the Links above posted by me, I have come to the conclusion this is just a slow day for College Football at ESPN in the midst of the March madness, NFL Mock Drafts, NBA & NHL seasons, so why not do a hit piece that means absolutely nothing and one season at these salaries can set these guys for life.

I very much appreciate you providing the detail Links on the Overpaid Coaches.

Thanks again!

This post was edited on 3/26 7:46 AM by CaptainSidneyReilly

 

[OriginalEther]

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Regarding Sumlin, maybe it's a little early either way, but he took a program that had been about .500 for about a decade (his predecessor, Mike Sherman, went 25-25 during his 4 years, and that was with Ryan Tannehill. Franchonie didn't fare much better), and won 20 games (including the Cotton and Chick-Fil-A bowl) in his first 2 seasons, all while moving to the SEC.

That sounds like money well spent.

 

[thebadby2]

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Agree 110%. Sumlin made A&M relevant again. And he made Manziel by running his offense to maximize his talents. If Manziel had played for a lot of other schools, including any that run a more pro-style O, he'd have been buried on the bench.

 

[Pitt79]

Mississippi was pretty good last year weren't they?

As for Saban, all these coaches are overpaid, but he's won how many championships?

 

[OriginalEther]

I thought Saban was on the underpaid list, as crazy as it sounds.

Last season may have been flukes, but along the same lines as Sumlin/Tex AM, the two Mississippi coaches make those schools relevant last season. Aside from maybe when Eli Manning was playing for Ole Miss, when could you have said that?

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

No they weren't - SEC hype machine

built Ole Miss up. Played no P5 out of conference games, humiliated in bowl game, finished 9-4. Beat bama, that's about it. So whaat is it you like about them?

 

[OriginalEther]

Re: No they weren't - SEC hype machine

Partly agree. But even employing that schedule in the past, and having the benefit of the SEC hype machine, they were just canon fodder. A team that SEC East teams hoped was on the schedule. Now it appears that they aren't. Whether or not they can keep it up is the question.

While not as good as some of the previous teams, they did play Boise last year.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Re: No they weren't - SEC hype machine

I think A&M CLEARLY fired Sherman too soon. Let's see if Sumlin can bring in the caliber of talent Sherman did? Maybe he can? Personally, I see a program that was fairly stacked and he did okay with it but not quite as much as I would have hoped for a team with so many first round draft choices right there and ready to produce.

I think he is HIGHLY overrated at this point.