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Okay, this is free advice, and I am going to give it to yinz. Anything further I will be happy to help, but only as a paid consultant.

Any professional chef out there will understand exactly what I am saying.

Your French fries suck. Suck bad. Pathetic. Yes, most of you, the O, Primanti's, almost any of you, your fries suck. McDonald's fries are better than yours. Why? Who the bleep wants a limp fry. What is McD's fries better? Because it is fried more than once.

I don't give a damn about "fresh cut fries", fries should not be served looking and tasting like they need Viagra. Limp sticks of potato that while "fried" might as well be boiled. You people who own restaurants or cook in restaurants or even at home, you cut these beautiful looking French fries, you fry them, they turn a bit brown then you take them out and they are more limp than 65 year old scotch drinker.

Yet McD's fries are crisp. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIED TWICE!!! It is that simple. Anyone, especially you Primanti's, or the O, fry your fries like you do. Don't change a thing. Fry them. Then.........don't serve them. Put them aside. Put them in the fridge. Then.....FRY THEM AGAIN! Raise the oil temperature 25 to 50 degrees and fry the fries you already fried, again. For just a few minutes. And trust me, the results will speak for itself.

DO THIS! Don't question it. DO IT!! I am sick of these establishments who cut their own fries yet the fries are greasy, limp gross globs of potato. Yet some place pulls out a bag of Ore Ida fries and dumps them into their fryer and they are much better than yours. Why? Because they have already been fried once, even when frozen. Again, we can get into the basics and chemistry, but just do it. Fry your fries twice. Stop serving mediocre limp shards of greasy potatoes. I don't care if you hand cut them yourself from a real potato. Limp and greasy is limp and greasy. French fries are supposed to be crisp or not served at all.
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Okay, this is free advice, and I am going to give it to yinz. Anything further I will be happy to help, but only as a paid consultant.

Any professional chef out there will understand exactly what I am saying.

Your French fries suck. Suck bad. Pathetic. Yes, most of you, the O, Primanti's, almost any of you, your fries suck. McDonald's fries are better than yours. Why? Who the bleep wants a limp fry. What is McD's fries better? Because it is fried more than once.

I don't give a damn about "fresh cut fries", fries should not be served looking and tasting like they need Viagra. Limp sticks of potato that while "fried" might as well be boiled. You people who own restaurants or cook in restaurants or even at home, you cut these beautiful looking French fries, you fry them, they turn a bit brown then you take them out and they are more limp than 65 year old scotch drinker.

Yet McD's fries are crisp. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIED TWICE!!! It is that simple. Anyone, especially you Primanti's, or the O, fry your fries like you do. Don't change a thing. Fry them. Then.........don't serve them. Put them aside. Put them in the fridge. Then.....FRY THEM AGAIN! Raise the oil temperature 25 to 50 degrees and fry the fries you already fried, again. For just a few minutes. And trust me, the results will speak for itself.

DO THIS! Don't question it. DO IT!! I am sick of these establishments who cut their own fries yet the fries are greasy, limp gross globs of potato. Yet some place pulls out a bag of Ore Ida fries and dumps them into their fryer and they are much better than yours. Why? Because they have already been fried once, even when frozen. Again, we can get into the basics and chemistry, but just do it. Fry your fries twice. Stop serving mediocre limp shards of greasy potatoes. I don't care if you hand cut them yourself from a real potato. Limp and greasy is limp and greasy. French fries are supposed to be crisp or not served at all.
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Guess where I found great French fries.....Ruth's Chris. Yeah, that Ruth's Chris.

Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised, too. Now this was a couple years ago since I ate there last, but.....for some reason, I had the desire for French fries with my steak, and by gawd, they were fabulous. Who knew? And they gave me enough fries for the entire table.

I don't know whether they double-fry their fries or not, but they did it right.....
 
Everything at Ruth's Chris steakhouse taste good. It's one of my favorite joints. I have rarely had a disappointing experience there.
 
Again, I wrote this after some limp "fresh cut" fries at an anonymous restaurant yesterday for lunch (which is good cause it saved me calories), but also someone called Primanti's Sammiches "garbage" and I believe they are overrated, mainly because of the poor, limp French fries.

Of course Ruth's Chris double fries them. Maybe triple fries them. Who knows? Again, it is why fast food (McD's) fries or frozen fries out of a freezer are better than many homemade or fresh cut fries.

Again, it is so easy. Fry the fries at 325 degrees until cooked. Then put them aside. Refridgerate them, whatever. Then when ready to serve, crank it up to 375 degrees, dunk the fries in it for a couple of minutes and whammo, perfectly fried, crisp French fries. It is so easy, I don't know why it is so hard for people to figure it out.
 
Fatheads has good ones, but you can't let em linger or sog sets in.

Agree totally on O and Primanti's fries for the reason you say.
 
Primantis fries are extremely undercooked. Love the passion in the op. Call Me a Nazi but I'll take a sweet potato fries over regular ffs anyday
 
Sorry to all of you. The truly best fries in the world can only be found in Belgium. Known as Frites. Some of the best comes straight from a Frituur or frites stand.

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RJPittPanther said:
Sorry to all of you. The truly best fries in the world can only be found in Belgium. Known as Frites. Some of the best comes straight from a Frituur or frites stand.

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what is that served on it? Please tell me some sort of custard and not Mayo?? Spend time in Calgary quite often and found out im not a fan of poutine.. Cheese curd and gravy sounds like my cup of tea too..
 
Pghfan said:
what is that served on it? Please tell me some sort of custard and not Mayo?? Spend time in Calgary quite often and found out im not a fan of poutine.. Cheese curd and gravy sounds like my cup of tea too..
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It is mayo, but there are different kinds of mayo at the stands. We aren't talking Helman's or Dukes, we are talking the really good stuff. They use a very creamy mayo but also have a variety of Andalouse toppings. The truly best place to get Frites is at festivals and outside the big cities.
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Okay, this is free advice, and I am going to give it to yinz. Anything further I will be happy to help, but only as a paid consultant.

Any professional chef out there will understand exactly what I am saying.

Your French fries suck. Suck bad. Pathetic. Yes, most of you, the O, Primanti's, almost any of you, your fries suck. McDonald's fries are better than yours. Why? Who the bleep wants a limp fry. What is McD's fries better? Because it is fried more than once.

I don't give a damn about "fresh cut fries", fries should not be served looking and tasting like they need Viagra. Limp sticks of potato that while "fried" might as well be boiled. You people who own restaurants or cook in restaurants or even at home, you cut these beautiful looking French fries, you fry them, they turn a bit brown then you take them out and they are more limp than 65 year old scotch drinker.

Yet McD's fries are crisp. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIED TWICE!!! It is that simple. Anyone, especially you Primanti's, or the O, fry your fries like you do. Don't change a thing. Fry them. Then.........don't serve them. Put them aside. Put them in the fridge. Then.....FRY THEM AGAIN! Raise the oil temperature 25 to 50 degrees and fry the fries you already fried, again. For just a few minutes. And trust me, the results will speak for itself.

DO THIS! Don't question it. DO IT!! I am sick of these establishments who cut their own fries yet the fries are greasy, limp gross globs of potato. Yet some place pulls out a bag of Ore Ida fries and dumps them into their fryer and they are much better than yours. Why? Because they have already been fried once, even when frozen. Again, we can get into the basics and chemistry, but just do it. Fry your fries twice. Stop serving mediocre limp shards of greasy potatoes. I don't care if you hand cut them yourself from a real potato. Limp and greasy is limp and greasy. French fries are supposed to be crisp or not served at all.
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O double fries them.
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Okay, this is free advice, and I am going to give it to yinz. Anything further I will be happy to help, but only as a paid consultant.

Any professional chef out there will understand exactly what I am saying.

Your French fries suck. Suck bad. Pathetic. Yes, most of you, the O, Primanti's, almost any of you, your fries suck. McDonald's fries are better than yours. Why? Who the bleep wants a limp fry. What is McD's fries better? Because it is fried more than once.

I don't give a damn about "fresh cut fries", fries should not be served looking and tasting like they need Viagra. Limp sticks of potato that while "fried" might as well be boiled. You people who own restaurants or cook in restaurants or even at home, you cut these beautiful looking French fries, you fry them, they turn a bit brown then you take them out and they are more limp than 65 year old scotch drinker.

Yet McD's fries are crisp. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIED TWICE!!! It is that simple. Anyone, especially you Primanti's, or the O, fry your fries like you do. Don't change a thing. Fry them. Then.........don't serve them. Put them aside. Put them in the fridge. Then.....FRY THEM AGAIN! Raise the oil temperature 25 to 50 degrees and fry the fries you already fried, again. For just a few minutes. And trust me, the results will speak for itself.

DO THIS! Don't question it. DO IT!! I am sick of these establishments who cut their own fries yet the fries are greasy, limp gross globs of potato. Yet some place pulls out a bag of Ore Ida fries and dumps them into their fryer and they are much better than yours. Why? Because they have already been fried once, even when frozen. Again, we can get into the basics and chemistry, but just do it. Fry your fries twice. Stop serving mediocre limp shards of greasy potatoes. I don't care if you hand cut them yourself from a real potato. Limp and greasy is limp and greasy. French fries are supposed to be crisp or not served at all.
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recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Okay, this is free advice, and I am going to give it to yinz. Anything further I will be happy to help, but only as a paid consultant.

Any professional chef out there will understand exactly what I am saying.

Your French fries suck. Suck bad. Pathetic. Yes, most of you, the O, Primanti's, almost any of you, your fries suck. McDonald's fries are better than yours. Why? Who the bleep wants a limp fry. What is McD's fries better? Because it is fried more than once.

I don't give a damn about "fresh cut fries", fries should not be served looking and tasting like they need Viagra. Limp sticks of potato that while "fried" might as well be boiled. You people who own restaurants or cook in restaurants or even at home, you cut these beautiful looking French fries, you fry them, they turn a bit brown then you take them out and they are more limp than 65 year old scotch drinker.

Yet McD's fries are crisp. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE FRIED TWICE!!! It is that simple. Anyone, especially you Primanti's, or the O, fry your fries like you do. Don't change a thing. Fry them. Then.........don't serve them. Put them aside. Put them in the fridge. Then.....FRY THEM AGAIN! Raise the oil temperature 25 to 50 degrees and fry the fries you already fried, again. For just a few minutes. And trust me, the results will speak for itself.

DO THIS! Don't question it. DO IT!! I am sick of these establishments who cut their own fries yet the fries are greasy, limp gross globs of potato. Yet some place pulls out a bag of Ore Ida fries and dumps them into their fryer and they are much better than yours. Why? Because they have already been fried once, even when frozen. Again, we can get into the basics and chemistry, but just do it. Fry your fries twice. Stop serving mediocre limp shards of greasy potatoes. I don't care if you hand cut them yourself from a real potato. Limp and greasy is limp and greasy. French fries are supposed to be crisp or not served at all.
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Apparently the fries aren't the only thing around here that is fried. By the way, Micky D's fries are too salty. Here's a trick. Ask for no salt fries. You may have to wait a couple of minutes but you will get fresh fried fries instead of fries that may have been laying around a while. Then salt them to your taste.
 
Pghfan said:
Primantis fries are extremely undercooked. Love the passion in the op. Call Me a Nazi but I'll take a sweet potato fries over regular ffs anyday
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Sweet potato fries suck, you freakin Nazi.
 
Pghfan said:
dang, what about Old bay seasoning on my fries with a splash of malt vinegar. I like that. does that make me a nazi?
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Again, it is not about seasonings and accouterments, it is about the quality of the fry as far as crispiness and taste. Now....we want to go into frying mediums, oil is nice, duck fat is much better. But that is another thread.
 
Internet Tough Guy said:
My friends came up with the scoring system in this article. Wingharts fries were near the top. http://www.post-gazette.com/life/di...ench-fries-in-Pittsburgh/stories/201505100019
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In reading the comments under the story, it's clear that some P-G readers can't differentiate between a story that was written in the spirit of fun and a scientific research paper. Folks gotta lighten-up a bit; the subject was "French fries", not Middle Eastern disarmament. :rolleyes:
 
RJPittPanther said:
It is mayo, but there are different kinds of mayo at the stands. We aren't talking Helman's or Dukes, we are talking the really good stuff. They use a very creamy mayo but also have a variety of Andalouse toppings. The truly best place to get Frites is at festivals and outside the big cities.
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Okay - I LOVE my fries dipped in mayo or ranch dressing. My family knows that I won't even speak while I'm eating them. Dang it - why are the best things so bad for you??????
 
pitt-girl said:
Did Wingharts ever re-open in Market Square? I get the sense that they are in a bit of trouble.
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I'm not sure about Market Square but I believe the Southside location does very well. Oakland was a terrible fit for them and to be honest it was their worst location. Terrible cooks and servers along with a demographic that didn't fit what they are trying to do led to the demise of that location.

I'm not a whiskey drinker, so the appeal for me was always the food. I never thought their fries were that great, but my friends in the fries group disagreed. The tatanka pizza on the other hand is the only thing I'll order from there simply because it's the best buffalo pizza I've ever had.
 
as several have posted, the O most certainly double fries the fries. Best in the city imho. Most over-rated.....potato patch at Kennywood. gets points for fresh & not frozen, but not double fried and very limp.

Thrashers at the Maryland/Delaware shore is tough to beat also.
 
SoufOaklin4Life said:
I called primantis garbage because the sandwich isn't good unless you are drunk .
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I had my fantasy football draft at the primanti's in lebo last weekend, had a sandwich while I was sober (for the most part). OK sandwich but find it odd that people refer to this as some sort of "Must get" when visiting.. Actually cringe when I hear a yinzer tell an out of towner that the first thing they must do is grab a primanti's sandwich.. If you believe Pittsburgh's #1 tourist attraction is primantis, you are short changing this city. Like you said, pretty tasty at 2:30am but really, what isn't? On a side note, their pizza is surprisingly good.
 
Slick Manager of Champs said:
as several have posted, the O most certainly double fries the fries. Best in the city imho. Most over-rated.....potato patch at Kennywood. gets points for fresh & not frozen, but not double fried and very limp.

Thrashers at the Maryland/Delaware shore is tough to beat also.
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Thrashers does the vinegar and old bay (I think). Very tasty combo..
 
Pghfan said:
I had my fantasy football draft at the primanti's in lebo last weekend, had a sandwich while I was sober (for the most part). OK sandwich but find it odd that people refer to this as some sort of "Must get" when visiting.. Actually cringe when I hear a yinzer tell an out of towner that the first thing they must do is grab a primanti's sandwich.. If you believe Pittsburgh's #1 tourist attraction is primantis, you are short changing this city. Like you said, pretty tasty at 2:30am but really, what isn't? On a side note, their pizza is surprisingly good.
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I find Primantis to be tolerable ONLY with a healthy dose of hot sauce. That makes it a good, not great sandwich. Hot pastrami is my personal fave.
 
wbrpanther said:
I find Primantis to be tolerable ONLY with a healthy dose of hot sauce. That makes it a good, not great sandwich. Hot pastrami is my personal fave.
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Ditto with the hot sauce and ditto with the pastrami.. Tough to screw up grilled pastrami on good Italian bread, no matter how undercooked the fries are..
 
Pghfan said:
I had my fantasy football draft at the primanti's in lebo last weekend, had a sandwich while I was sober (for the most part). OK sandwich but find it odd that people refer to this as some sort of "Must get" when visiting.. Actually cringe when I hear a yinzer tell an out of towner that the first thing they must do is grab a primanti's sandwich.. If you believe Pittsburgh's #1 tourist attraction is primantis, you are short changing this city. Like you said, pretty tasty at 2:30am but really, what isn't? On a side note, their pizza is surprisingly good.
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Worst food, ever.
 
wbrpanther said:
I find Primantis to be tolerable ONLY with a healthy dose of hot sauce. That makes it a good, not great sandwich. Hot pastrami is my personal fave.
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Me too. Exactly. I would only get Pastrami, and with loads of hot sauce. And again, the greasy limp fries suck the life out of the sandwich.

Their cheesesteak is an embarrassment to anything in Philly.

And yes, I cringe to when people say "YOU GOT TO GO TO PRIMANTI'S AN' AT". Maybe, but only the Strip location for its nostalgia. But honestly, you can do better at 12 other places in the Strip than Primanti's, including the Taco or Asian stands along the sidewalks.

Give me a choice between Eating at Primanti's and getting 2 tacos for $5 dollars from Edgar's, I am going with the Tacos everytime.
 
Pghfan said:
I had my fantasy football draft at the primanti's in lebo last weekend, had a sandwich while I was sober (for the most part). OK sandwich but find it odd that people refer to this as some sort of "Must get" when visiting.. Actually cringe when I hear a yinzer tell an out of towner that the first thing they must do is grab a primanti's sandwich.. If you believe Pittsburgh's #1 tourist attraction is primantis, you are short changing this city. Like you said, pretty tasty at 2:30am but really, what isn't? On a side note, their pizza is surprisingly good.
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Primanti's somehow became the "signature" Pittsburgh sandwich because they're all over the Food Network and Travel Channel shows, I never understood why since the fish sandwich is the real signature sandwich of the area. I'll co-sign on Primanti's having good pizza for a chain restaurant.

But Primanti's like most cities signature dish or sandwich is vastly overrated, for me the only signature dish/sandwich that lived up to the hype was the Beef on Weck in Buffalo.
 
I'm a Mon Valley guy through and through. I also HATE Primanti Sandwiches but a similar style is sold in North Belle Vernon at a place called the Foster House. Those are good sandwiches made with the french fry and coleslaw blueprint. Blows Primanti's away (Not that hard to do) and tasty.
 
happjack said:
Primanti's somehow became the "signature" Pittsburgh sandwich because they're all over the Food Network and Travel Channel shows, I never understood why since the fish sandwich is the real signature sandwich of the area. I'll co-sign on Primanti's having good pizza for a chain restaurant.

But Primanti's like most cities signature dish or sandwich is vastly overrated, for me the only signature dish/sandwich that lived up to the hype was the Beef on Weck in Buffalo.
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Chicago's Italian Beef lives up to the hype. Of course, Tacos trump them all. Real Tacos, not that gringo Taco Bell stuff.
 
recruitsreadtheseboards said:
Me too. Exactly. I would only get Pastrami, and with loads of hot sauce. And again, the greasy limp fries suck the life out of the sandwich.

Their cheesesteak is an embarrassment to anything in Philly.

And yes, I cringe to when people say "YOU GOT TO GO TO PRIMANTI'S AN' AT". Maybe, but only the Strip location for its nostalgia. But honestly, you can do better at 12 other places in the Strip than Primanti's, including the Taco or Asian stands along the sidewalks.

Give me a choice between Eating at Primanti's and getting 2 tacos for $5 dollars from Edgar's, I am going with the Tacos everytime.
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If you are east of town on 22, stop in at the big new sports bar, Rick's. They have a Primanti knock off called the Pittsburger that destroys Primanti's.
 
Rick's is on 22 shortly before you get to Delmont (heading away from Pittsburgh, where it would be on your left hand side). It's been open for several years, so I'm not sure I'd call it new, and if you are a regular on that road I don't see how you could have missed the place. It's about the only thing on that stretch of the highway.
 
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