OT: great hockey

[Fk_Pitt]

By now, most of you all have seen it, but the goal below was one of the best goals I’ve seen in a long time.

1) the NHL needs more of this instead of systemic and drab 5v5 hockey. But that would require a complete overhaul of the game, which means it won’t happen.

2) but wow. I saw online the pens were tied with a minute left and I said to my daughter who was binging a show to hurry up and change the channel because overtime was coming up and there’s nothing better than 3v3 NHL OT hockey. And boy, I’m glad she did because that was great stuff.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Soccer needs to relax its offsides rule and maybe drop 2-3 players because there is just not enough shots on goal.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Soccer needs to relax its offsides rule and maybe drop 2-3 players because there is just not enough shots on goal.

Agfeed on offside. I think your entire body needs to be offsides to count as offsides, not literally just your nose

 

[Black Panther]

Maybe they could do it this way in OT for the playoffs as well? That would be epic.But it will never happen.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Soccer needs to relax its offsides rule and maybe drop 2-3 players because there is just not enough shots on goal.

Not a hockey fan, but I've always thought they should get rid of offsides if they want to grow the game. Would that not generate more offense?

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Soccer needs to relax its offsides rule and maybe drop 2-3 players because there is just not enough shots on goal.

Eh. Yeah we can agree on offsides. It’s ridiculous, especially with VAR. if they have to look at it for 2 minutes, just call it onside, call it a goal and move on.

with hockey though, the players, their size, the pads and the tactics have just clogged things up.

hockey purists probably hate 3v3 and think it’s too gimmicky. But I love it.

 

[USN_Panther]

Eh. Yeah we can agree on offsides. It’s ridiculous, especially with VAR. if they have to look at it for 2 minutes, just call it onside, call it a goal and move on.

with hockey though, the players, their size, the pads and the tactics have just clogged things up.

hockey purists probably hate 3v3 and think it’s too gimmicky. But I love it.

I love watching 3v3. As a goalie, I hate playing it. So many odd man rushes.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Not a hockey fan, but I've always thought they should get rid of offsides if they want to grow the game. Would that not generate more offense?

Probably not. Because if there was no offsides then teams would tend to have their defensemen play deeper to try to stop the opponent from getting behind them. So there would be less pinching in by defensemen to hold the puck in the offensive zone and even when not pinching in defensemen would abandon the point on offense much quicker. Which would lead to more pucks getting cleared out of the offensive zone and more of the game being played in the middle of the ice, where no scoring actually happens.

 

[HailtoPitt]

The NHL just needs to better enforce their own rules to allow the best players to excel. The fact that teams need "enforcers" says a lot.

 

[Fk_Pitt]

I prefer the pens playing 3vs3 more than them playing 4vs3.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

The Pens are just wilting. This is a team who desperately needs a break. I am starting to lean on the burn it all down thing if they go out in rd 1.

 

[h2p_5150]

Hockey needs the off-sides rule IMO. I'd tweak a few things to improve the game. First thing I'd change is to stop allowing teams to ice the puck when short-handed. You committed a penalty, deal with the consequences. I'd also make it so that scoring a short-handed goal ends a powerplay. You should be punished for giving up a goal when your opponent is down a player.

 

[4Mark_Marty]

Hockey needs the off-sides rule IMO. I'd tweak a few things to improve the game. First thing I'd change is to stop allowing teams to ice the puck when short-handed. You committed a penalty, deal with the consequences. I'd also make it so that scoring a short-handed goal ends a powerplay. You should be punished for giving up a goal when your opponent is down a player.

I like the no icing on penalty kill. I've been a proponent of that rule change for years. Limiting the size of the goalie equipment would be a good change too.

 

[Pitt79]

Maybe they could do it this way in OT for the playoffs as well? That would be epic.But it will never happen.

That's what I have believed for years. NHL Playoff OT sucks, I've had that experience of staying awake through 4 OTs and the Pens lose at 3am.

Here's the thing, first off, now I quit watching beyond one OT in playoff hockey, because who knows? you could be up all night? On the other hand it sucks to watch the entire regulation game and not see the final outcome.

Secondly, what about teams that are good at 3 on 3 OT hockey? Maybe they're only in the playoffs because of all the games they won in 3 on 3 OT? So why does their strength get negated in the playoffs? It's the same with swallowing the whistle and "letting them play", the teams best at power plays are negated in favor of talentless bone head goons from Ontario.

It's a no brainer, 3 on 3 and a shootout, or if the old head stupid Canucks from Ontario get too upset, just do 15 minutes of 3 on 3, someone will score and we get a resolution in a reasonable amount of time.

 

[wbrpanther]

Soccer needs to relax its offsides rule and maybe drop 2-3 players because there is just not enough shots on goal.

Them maybe they can get some sort of following world wide.

 

[Pitt79]

Hockey needs the off-sides rule IMO. I'd tweak a few things to improve the game. First thing I'd change is to stop allowing teams to ice the puck when short-handed. You committed a penalty, deal with the consequences. I'd also make it so that scoring a short-handed goal ends a powerplay. You should be punished for giving up a goal when your opponent is down a player.

Or make the power play the full 2 minutes, even if you score on a power play, it doesn't end, you get the rest of the 2 minutes.

 

[Pitt79]

Limiting the size of the goalie equipment would be a good change too.

It's ridiculous how big the gear is, not as bad as lacrosse though

 

[Pitt79]

Them maybe they can get some sort of following world wide.

Soccer already has following world wide

I guess you have to watch it, truth is scoring isn't everything, a 0-0 soccer game can be very exciting, or a 1-1 tie can feel like a great win or huge loss. I agree totally with being very lenient on the offsides, but reducing the # of players, no.

 

[JD1976]

That's what I have believed for years. NHL Playoff OT sucks, I've had that experience of staying awake through 4 OTs and the Pens lose at 3am.

Here's the thing, first off, now I quit watching beyond one OT in playoff hockey, because who knows? you could be up all night? On the other hand it sucks to watch the entire regulation game and not see the final outcome.

Secondly, what about teams that are good at 3 on 3 OT hockey? Maybe they're only in the playoffs because of all the games they won in 3 on 3 OT? So why does their strength get negated in the playoffs? It's the same with swallowing the whistle and "letting them play", the teams best at power plays are negated in favor of talentless bone head goons from Ontario.

It's a no brainer, 3 on 3 and a shootout, or if the old head stupid Canucks from Ontario get too upset, just do 15 minutes of 3 on 3, someone will score and we get a resolution in a reasonable amount of time.

“Playoff OT sucks”

I guess we are going to be on the complete polar opposite side of this one.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Yeah again, I think if they just call some of the rules. What I hate is how a puck accidentally gets shot over the glass and it is an automatic penalty, no question asked. Or pretty much when you slash the stick, it is called. But a cross check to the back or worse, head and it is 50/50 if it is called.

Everyone is trying to fix a sport that just frankly is limited in its popularity. Unlike soccer folks, I have long past worried if other people like the sport and in some ways I am glad it is not overly commercialized.

 

[The Ole Six-Fiver]

Hockey needs the off-sides rule IMO. I'd tweak a few things to improve the game. First thing I'd change is to stop allowing teams to ice the puck when short-handed. You committed a penalty, deal with the consequences. I'd also make it so that scoring a short-handed goal ends a powerplay. You should be punished for giving up a goal when your opponent is down a player.

I’m a pretty involved hockey fan but never actually thought of the last couple items you suggest. I really like those ideas.

 

[Pitt79]

“Playoff OT sucks”

I guess we are going to be on the complete polar opposite side of this one.

No problem, 3 on 3 OT is FUN AND EXCITING and you have a resolution within 15-20 minutes. the prospect of watching another entire game past midnight, after already watching a full game is depressing.

 

[JD1976]

No problem, 3 on 3 OT is FUN AND EXCITING and you have a resolution within 15-20 minutes. the prospect of watching another entire game past midnight, after already watching a full game is depressing.

Well I do dislike having to stay up past midnight, but the payoff is generally worth it.

 

[Pitt79]

Well I do dislike having to stay up past midnight, but the payoff is generally worth it.

Yes, we are going to be on the complete polar opposite side of this one.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Yes, we are going to be on the complete polar opposite side of this one.

I know this...playing multiple OT's in the post season is vastly superior to relying on Penalty Kicks in soccer (or a hockey shootout) because then it becomes basically a coin flip.

 

[Pitt79]

I know this...playing multiple OT's in the post season is vastly superior to relying on Penalty Kicks in soccer (or a hockey shootout) because then it becomes basically a coin flip.

Play 3 on 3 for 20 minutes, someone will score way before the sun comes up.

 

[The Ole Six-Fiver]

I don’t always love it when trying to wake up the next day for work, but I have to say I love me some epic multi OT playoff games (Penguins games anyway, probably not any other random teams). I really don’t like regular season shoot outs and I’d hate that for ending playoffs. Maybe because it’s frustrating that the Penguins aren’t way better than the opponent at it given the supposed skill guys we have.

 

[goalieman]

I don’t always love it when trying to wake up the next day for work, but I have to say I love me some epic multi OT playoff games (Penguins games anyway, probably not any other random teams). I really don’t like regular season shoot outs and I’d hate that for ending playoffs. Maybe because it’s frustrating that the Penguins aren’t way better than the opponent at it given the supposed skill guys we have.

Agree ...... IMO overtime in any Stanley Cup Playoff game as presently formatted is exciting/exhilarating and if it's Game 7 of any series but especially the Stanley Cup Finals, it's about as good as it gets in sports ! ..... most hockey fans feel that way, as a matter of fact, not long ago (2020) a survey was done of hockey fans across the entire NHL and two questions were asked regarding overtime in the playoffs ...... here are those questions and the results ......

#1 - Should the NHL Playoff Overtime format be changed ? ..... 14% YES 86% NO

#2 - Should a shootout ever determine the results of a playoff game ? ..... 6% YES 94% NO

The average length of an overtime game in the NHL playoffs = 12:13

57% of overtime playoff games are over in less than 10 minutes.

80% are over in less than one period, 90% over in 1.5 periods and more than 94% over in less than two periods.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Agree ...... IMO overtime in any Stanley Cup Playoff game as presently formatted is exciting/exhilarating and if it's Game 7 of any series but especially the Stanley Cup Finals, it's about as good as it gets in sports ! ..... most hockey fans feel that way, as a matter of fact, not long ago (2020) a survey was done of hockey fans across the entire NHL and two questions were asked regarding overtime in the playoffs ...... here are those questions and the results ......

#1 - Should the NHL Playoff Overtime format be changed ? ..... 14% YES 86% NO

#2 - Should a shootout ever determine the results of a playoff game ? ..... 6% YES 94% NO

The average length of an overtime game in the NHL playoffs = 12:13

57% of overtime playoff games are over in less than 10 minutes.

80% are over in less than one period, 90% over in 1.5 periods and more than 94% over in less than two periods.

Agree. It is fantastic, it is just unbelievably nerve racking, there are no commercials. I was at some of the all time great OT games. the 5 OT game against the Flyers. I was at the 4 OT game in DC against the Caps. What memories.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Secondly, what about teams that are good at 3 on 3 OT hockey? Maybe they're only in the playoffs because of all the games they won in 3 on 3 OT? So why does their strength get negated in the playoffs?

Just because someone is strong at not-really-hockey doesn't mean that they should cater to them in the playoffs.

In fact what they ought to be doing is going to a 3-2-1-0 point system for regular season games to help minimize the teams that are strong at not-really-hockey doing well in the standings.

 

[Pitt79]

Just because someone is strong at not-really-hockey doesn't mean that they should cater to them in the playoffs.

In fact what they ought to be doing is going to a 3-2-1-0 point system for regular season games to help minimize the teams that are strong at not-really-hockey doing well in the standings.

I agree with the 3-2-1-0, I think I thought that up myself. But seriously, i don't care about it being ''real hockey'', i just want it to end in a reasonable amount of time, not at 3am.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

i just want it to end in a reasonable amount of time, not at 3am.

Is there someone specific that comes over to your house and puts the gun to your head, or is it a different person for each game?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I agree with the 3-2-1-0, I think I thought that up myself. But seriously, i don't care about it being ''real hockey'', i just want it to end in a reasonable amount of time, not at 3am.

I have said that for years. The current way the NHL awards points, regulation games are only worth 2 points, OT games are worth 3. Make all the games 3 point games.
Reg win 3 points
OT win 2 points
OT loss 1 point
Reg loss 0 points

That makes all games equal.

 

[Pitt79]

Is there someone specific that comes over to your house and puts the gun to your head, or is it a different person for each game?

No, I PERSONALLY just want to go to bed, I enjoy watching sports, a 2-3-4 hour game is fine, I DON'T WANT to watch a 7-8 hour game. I'm sure I'm not alone, I bet over half or more of people turn off those NHL playoff games that last until 3 am way before they are over, just do the damn 3 on 3 OT so it can end. 3 hours is enough.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

No, I PERSONALLY just want to go to bed, I enjoy watching sports, a 2-3-4 hour game is fine, I DON'T WANT to watch a 7-8 hour game. I'm sure I'm not alone, I bet over half or more of people turn off those NHL playoff games that last until 3 am way before they are over, just do the damn 3 on 3 OT so it can end. 3 hours is enough.

Those multi OT games happen what, every 5-7 years.

 

[Pitt79]

I have said that for years. The current way the NHL awards points, regulation games are only worth 2 points, OT games are worth 3. Make all the games 3 point games.
Reg win 3 points
OT win 2 points
OT loss 1 point
Reg loss 0 points

That makes all games equal.

I'd say...

Regulation Win 3 points
OT Win 2 points
SO Win 1 point
All Losses ZERO points

That way everyone is desperate to score before the next clock runs out. Teams that desperately need 3 points at the end of the season would be pulling their goalie in tie games, it would lead to a lot of great scenarios
.

 

[Pitt79]

Those multi OT games happen what, every 5-7 years.

Personally, I'd rather just watch the 3 on 3 OT and if needed the shootout, and have the game be over within 15-20 minutes. I don't care if it's "real hockey" it's more fun than another hour or 2 of "real hockey". I also would like the NFL to adopt an OT system like college football, that's more fun too, and it ends in a reasonable time, both teams get a shot and there's never a tie., and I don't care if it's "real football".

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

No, I PERSONALLY just want to go to bed, I enjoy watching sports, a 2-3-4 hour game is fine, I DON'T WANT to watch a 7-8 hour game. I'm sure I'm not alone, I bet over half or more of people turn off those NHL playoff games that last until 3 am way before they are over, just do the damn 3 on 3 OT so it can end. 3 hours is enough.

Those multi OT games happen what, every 5-7 years.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I'd say...

Regulation Win 3 points
OT Win 2 points
SO Win 1 point
All Losses ZERO points

That way everyone is desperate to score before the next clock runs out. Teams that desperately need 3 points at the end of the season would be pulling their goalie in tie games, it would lead to a lot of great scenarios
.

No. I am sorry, shoot outs is a coin flip. You get to that point, the loser deserves a point.

 

[Pitt79]

No. I am sorry, shoot outs is a coin flip. You get to that point, the loser deserves a point.

I don't care, the extra point from an OT win would increase desperation as the clock is running out, depending on many factors urgency to score could reach extreme levels, like a team pulling the goalie in 3 on 3 if they need 2 points to make the playoffs, all that increases FAN FUN.