OT James Wiseman Ineligibile
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Biggest non-shocker of the year... Penny Hardaway bought his recruiting class.
This isn't OT. This makes me sick. An injunction? Serious? Just make an AAU Senior Circuit for the Hardaways of the world (and there are many) and keep college hoops somewhat legit. This cat didn't need to attend college to begin with. And I'm not naive to think this is an isolated thing. It's out there in the open NCAA. Watcha gonna do???
Sean Miller and Bill Self laughing all the way to the bank. Screw the NCAA. What’s the penalty.
like Jay Bilas said the other night. Cheating and nobody seems to care. The fans don’t really care. The penalty for cheating doesn’t matter so go ahead and cheat. Look at Louisville’s ranking. Oh boy were they hurt by scandal
like Jay Bilas said the other night. Cheating and nobody seems to care. The fans don’t really care. The penalty for cheating doesn’t matter so go ahead and cheat. Look at Louisville’s ranking. Oh boy were they hurt by scandal
On the one hand, of course Wiseman got paid something. He's the #1 pick in the draft next year. On the other hand, Penny has coached him since what, 5th or 6th grade? If I had the money Penny does and had known the family for that long, you'd best believe I'd be helping them out whether they decided to play for me or not. That's just being a good human.
This all happened before Penny became Memphis' coach I presume? If so, that maybe softens things a bit, but still highly shady.
Just sue the NCAA like Penn St did. Just keep fighting them until they back down. Penn St. showed you can get away with anything.
Yeah they do look terrific. Kentucky-level freshmen playing in the AAC. They legit could enter the NCAA tourney undefeated with our without Wiseman.
Watching a CBSSN halftime report, kinda seems like Memphis is just going to file some lawsuits and play him. By the time, the all the appeals are done, the NCAAT will be over. Memphis will have to vacate their Elite 8 and Penny will get suspended 10 games. Big whoop. Good for Memphis on this. Play the kid!
They are projected as a #1 seed by some computer models primarily because they will have a Gonzaga-like schedule and enter the NCAAT 31-3
It was the local county judge. Memphis is asking for trouble here. Once this C- law student turned judge has his ruling reversed, Memphis is going to be held accountable. I'm no fan of the NCAA, but you allow this to happen, then all hell breaks loose.
Memphis is in a world of trouble.
Every school bends the rules, a lot knowingly break them, but most can keep their dirty laundry in house. Hardaway wanted the Memphis job even while Pastner was still there. He built Team Penny/Bluff City to be a feeder system into Memphis when he got the job and it’s no secret how things work at that level of basketball.
Memphis reminds me of Louisville. They’re the biggest game in their town and sold their soul for success. Memphis has a lot of corporate money behind them, but nothing nearly as powerful as Adidas U does, so I’m not sure that’s going to be able to save them. The back room judge filing a restraining order and the high powered criminal attorney taking the case all facilitated by the school to save their golden goose.
Every school bends the rules, a lot knowingly break them, but most can keep their dirty laundry in house. Hardaway wanted the Memphis job even while Pastner was still there. He built Team Penny/Bluff City to be a feeder system into Memphis when he got the job and it’s no secret how things work at that level of basketball.
Memphis reminds me of Louisville. They’re the biggest game in their town and sold their soul for success. Memphis has a lot of corporate money behind them, but nothing nearly as powerful as Adidas U does, so I’m not sure that’s going to be able to save them. The back room judge filing a restraining order and the high powered criminal attorney taking the case all facilitated by the school to save their golden goose.
I love what Memphis is doing. The NCAA has no power. Pitino, Miller, and Wade haven't been suspended. Arizona and LSU arent on probation is but somehow Georgia Tech is for what seems like some pretty minor stuff. They are going to continue to play him and then vacate all their wins if they have to but they may not have to do all of that until after the NCAAT so who cares.
Even if all of the legal process plays out before March and they are ruled to vacate all their wins, they can simply just win their conference tournament without Wiseman and go into the NCAAT with like a 3-2 official record or something.
Lol. Penny had no knowledge of being the Memphis coach when Wiseman transferred. He didn’t “buy” this recruiting class. He helped Wiseman’s mother out to help his AAU/HS teams. Hell, this kid almost went to Kentucky. This should be a non story. If Penny paid them in the last year this should be a story but he hadn’t steered any kids from his aau program or HS to Memphis so this a loose interpretation by the NCAA.
What’s funny is Calipari probably blew the whistle on this after losing out on him.
What’s funny is Calipari probably blew the whistle on this after losing out on him.
The NCAA is a joke. The elite schools like UNC, Kansas, Arizona, etc. get a free pass, but they have no problem going after the SMU’s of the world.
Don’t forget the Duke’s of the world. We’re all talking about James Wiseman’s move yet Marvin BAGley and Zion’s families moved to Durham, NC for 6 months. Hmm...
For sure - there are certain untouchables. The NCAA is a gutless organization who pushes around the smaller schools on the food chain.
It’s time to expose the sham that is “amateur” athletics in the 2x high revenue sports. These kids aren’t students and aren’t going to these dirty schools that are funded by Nike and Adidas for any other reason other than to train for the NFL or NBA. Take the shackles off and let the kids who are ready to go pro pursue their craft and make a college scholarship mean something again. Let the scumbag coaches ply their trades in NBA & NFL minor leagues where the hypocrisy has been lifted. It won’t happen however because the system in place now is too lucrative for everyone involved and all it takes is a bunch of crooked universities, boosters and coaches and a toothless, look the other way institution like the NCAA to let it all happen.
There's a quite a bit of horse-trading on the AAU scene. Everyone has families who need assistance along the way- big deal who cares. I agree with SMF, some if it is just being a good human to help others get ahead.
Why don't we just do away with college basketball altogether? It's nothing at all like it was intended to be and it's getting worse. Just form a pro league and associate a college name with each team. The kids don't have to go to school and can be professional. Then the fans and alumni can still have the entertainment of the sport and the kids can get paid, as they are anyhow. Most of them can't read or write but they can at least play with their balls. This whole college sports things is a sham and a fraud right now.
It has always been this way. How do you think UCLA and Wooden became a Powerhouse?
I'm just saying, quit the sham. This isn't college sports. Most of these kids couldn't graduate from high school if they weren't pushed through the system because of their sports. Most of them definitely don't belong in college. Let them do what they're good at for a while and get paid, but don't call it the NCAA or a college team. It's a pro team that is linked to a college. But when they're done playing, and that's usually within 5 years, they're screwed. That's on them.
Yes, "most" of these kids are borderline morons and couldn't possibly be disciplined enough to be a high end athlete and graduate high school. As your post proves- they obviously don't have the high intellectual level of a message board poster.
Penny had been connected to that job back when Pastner was coaching. By the time this all went down, he absolutely had an idea of what the future might hold.
To be honest, when I first heard the $11,500, my first thought was "Penny, you cheap b@astard." My second thought was "hopefully that's just the money they found out about and he helped them more than that."
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