OT: Massive Drug Shortages , again

[PittPharm2002]

So about 6 years ago when Puerto Rico was Baxter manufacturing was crippled /
Whats is new again - this time the North Carolina plant .

Guess all this consolidation of drug manufacturers was a bad idea -
So again , we’ll be looking to import IV fluids and drugs from foreign manufacturers .

If you have any elective surgery coming up- be aware it will likely get rescheduled.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

So about 6 years ago when Puerto Rico was Baxter manufacturing was crippled /
Whats is new again - this time the North Carolina plant .

Guess all this consideration of drug manufacturers was a bad idea -
So again , we’ll be looking to import IV fluids and drugs from foreign manufacturers .

If you have any elective surgery coming up- be aware it will likely get rescheduled.

Consolidation.

Also seriously impacted is electronics. The world's largest producer of pure quartz was flooded out in Black Rock, NC

 

[PittPharm2002]

Consolidation.

Also seriously impacted is electronics. The world's largest producer of pure quartz was flooded out in Black Rock, NC

Thanks , damned autocorrect .
15 years ago this wasn’t such an issue .
But all the generic manufacturers and novel drug manufacturers got bought out by Baxter , B-D, Pfizer , etc .
So now we also have twice annual Pfizer/Hospira drug shortages of crash cart medications - while they shut down to save on labor and increase profits

 

[USN_Panther]

Good luck if it is IV fluids. We're short due to a fire at an Australian plant. Another hit to the supply chain gets dicey.

 

[CJsE]

So about 6 years ago when Puerto Rico was Baxter manufacturing was crippled /
Whats is new again - this time the North Carolina plant .

Guess all this consolidation of drug manufacturers was a bad idea -
So again , we’ll be looking to import IV fluids and drugs from foreign manufacturers .

If you have any elective surgery coming up- be aware it will likely get rescheduled.

60% of our supply coming from a single plant? 60%??!!

 

[PittPharm2002]

60% of our supply coming from a single plant? 60%??!!

Yep
How
Idiotic is that ?
Baxter can’t afford to run 2-3 plants in different parts of the country ?!?

 

[Upg bobcat]

Yep
How
Idiotic is that ?
Baxter can’t afford to run 2-3 plants in different parts of the country ?!?

More surprised that Baxter actually has a U.S. plant. I would expect those big companies to be manufacturing in India or China. Mylan closed their Morgantown plant in 2021 and shifted manufacturing to India I believe.

 

[PittPharm2002]

More surprised that Baxter actually has a U.S. plant. I would expect those big companies to be manufacturing in India or China. Mylan closed their Morgantown plant in 2021 and shifted manufacturing to India I believe.

They have them internationally too
But FDA has to inspect every plant for domestic use here .
There will be expedited reviews to import I’m sure

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Yep
How
Idiotic is that ?
Baxter can’t afford to run 2-3 plants in different parts of the country ?!?

You would think that there would be some rules/mandates on critical materials that prevent this type of situation. I am in the defense/energy segment and one of the always audit questions and provisions is having the ability to supply materials if there was a disaster. If you didn't have multiple facilities, then they had to have multiple sources.

 

[CJsE]

Yep
How
Idiotic is that ?
Baxter can’t afford to run 2-3 plants in different parts of the country ?!?

I mean at this point who would want a Baxter plant popping up in their area knowing that they attract devastating hurricanes?

 

[PittPharm2002]

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I mean at this point who would want a Baxter plant popping up in their area knowing that they attract devastating hurricanes?

t he fact we are getting tornadoes in south west pa regularly is showing no one place is ideal

 

[Conemaugh]

You would think that there would be some rules/mandates on critical materials that prevent this type of situation. I am in the defense/energy segment and one of the always audit questions and provisions is having the ability to supply materials if there was a disaster. If you didn't have multiple facilities, then they had to have multiple sources.

Yup, having one is the same as having none.

 

[TitoBeagle]

Jesus Christ… They better not run out of Cocaine!!!!!!!!

 

[USN_Panther]

Jesus Christ… They better not run out of Cocaine!!!!!!!!

The supply chain for cocaine is run by very competent business men and women. They have many redundancies in supply, importation and distribution.

 

[TitoBeagle]

The supply chain for cocaine is run by very competent business men and women. They have many redundancies in supply, importation and distribution.

YA to bad the government isn’t as efficient and productive as those guys..

 

[PittPharm2002]

YA to bad the government isn’t as efficient and productive as those guys..

Baxter is the government?

 

[Fk_Pitt]

You would think that there would be some rules/mandates on critical materials that prevent this type of situation. I am in the defense/energy segment and one of the always audit questions and provisions is having the ability to supply materials if there was a disaster. If you didn't have multiple facilities, then they had to have multiple sources.

Where are the vast majority of antibiotics manufactured? Anyone know?

If not here and if they’re manufactured inside the borders of an adversary…that sounds like the recipe for a major blow to national security.

 

[Upg bobcat]

Where are the vast majority of antibiotics manufactured? Anyone know?

If not here and if they’re manufactured inside the borders of an adversary…that sounds like the recipe for a major blow to national security.

Like I said, my guess is that it's India or China. That was certainly the case as of 2021 at least: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/c...ebuild-its-manufacturing-capacity-11619640612.

The article does mention our government's Strategic National Stockpile, which does cover antibiotics and other types of drugs for purposes of emergency situations (and there are government stockpiles, such as the National Defense Stockpile, of other types of goods and materials our society might need, besides drugs).

 

[Fk_Pitt]

Like I said, my guess is that it's India or China. That was certainly the case as of 2021 at least: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/c...ebuild-its-manufacturing-capacity-11619640612.

The article does mention our government's Strategic National Stockpile, which does cover antibiotics and other types of drugs for purposes of emergency situations (and there are government stockpiles, such as the National Defense Stockpile, of other types of goods and materials our society might need, besides drugs).

80% China was always my understanding.

But you can’t always trust what you read…

 

[PittPharm2002]

Where are the vast majority of antibiotics manufactured? Anyone know?

If not here and if they’re manufactured inside the borders of an adversary…that sounds like the recipe for a major blow to national security.

You’d need to be a bit more specific -
The vast majority are generics so there are multiple manufacturers (Mylan , Hospira , Fresenius Kabi, Teva ,etc .)
The manufacturing is less the concern since its domestic -
It’s the API or raw ingredient materials which are foreign sourced .
Mostly because they sure don’t want to pay the labor domestically

 

[Fk_Pitt]

You’d need to be a bit more specific -
The vast majority are generics so there are multiple manufacturers (Mylan , Hospira , Fresenius Kabi, Teva ,etc .)
The manufacturing is less the concern since its domestic -
It’s the API or raw ingredient materials which are foreign sourced .
Mostly because they sure don’t want to pay the labor domestically

Thanks

 

[USN_Panther]

Like I said, my guess is that it's India or China. That was certainly the case as of 2021 at least: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/c...ebuild-its-manufacturing-capacity-11619640612.

The article does mention our government's Strategic National Stockpile, which does cover antibiotics and other types of drugs for purposes of emergency situations (and there are government stockpiles, such as the National Defense Stockpile, of other types of goods and materials our society might need, besides drugs).

I'm reading a book called Raven Rock. It is about the nuclear shelters built after WW2 and during the cold war to shelter the branches of government and military commanders. It's pretty scary what would happen to the rest of the population in nuclear war.
The Greenbrier Resort was one of these facilities. It is up for sheriff sale presently.

 

[Teh Teh]

Yep
How
Idiotic is that ?
Baxter can’t afford to run 2-3 plants in different parts of the country ?!?

It is monopolies... period.

Every industry is the same. Airlines, automobiles, health care, etc...