OT: My NFL OT Solution

[upj87]

Simple premise. Should the team with the first possession score, the team with the second possession must outscore them. Sudden death after no score on these two possessions.

Each team guaranteed one possession in overtime. Should the team taking the kickoff score a touchdown, said touchdown is worth 7 points. No extra points attempted or allowed to be attempted.

Second must team outscore the first team to win the game on their possession whether it be after a 7 point td (ie TD and two point conversion) or a field goal ( a td) or a no score (fg or td). .

Seems like a simple solution to me...


Tell me where I went wrong.

 

[pittbb80]

Simple premise. Should the team with the first possession score, the team with the second possession must outscore them. Sudden death after no score on these two possessions.

Each team guaranteed one possession in overtime. Should the team taking the kickoff score a touchdown, said touchdown is worth 7 points. No extra points attempted or allowed to be attempted.

Second must team outscore the first team to win the game on their possession whether it be after a 7 point td (ie TD and two point conversion) or a field goal ( a td) or a no score (fg or td). .

Seems like a simple solution to me...


Tell me where I went wrong.

I do like the idea of No extra points and the other team getting a shot if the team that gets the kickoff first scores a Td. That seems pretty fair to me. It forces the first team to go for two if they score. The second team then can tie it up or win it........

Id even go for the college system of each team getting the ball at lets say mid field and then the first team to score more points on their possession wins.......NO extra points allowed.

 

[Pitt79]

I like the college OT system, it's pretty damn entertaining, I DON'T CARE if it's "real football" it's fair, both teams get a shot, and it actually is fun to watch IMO.

 

[upj87]

I do like the idea of No extra points and the other team getting a shot if the team that gets the kickoff first scores a Td. That seems pretty fair to me. It forces the first team to go for two if they score. The second team then can tie it up or win it........

Id even go for the college system of each team getting the ball at lets say mid field and then the first team to score more points on their possession wins.......NO extra points allowed.

The second team then can tie...why? the object is to secure a win in overtime as quickly and fairly as possible. The necessity to go for the win in my scenario is on the team that gave up points on the first drive.

 

[pittbb80]

The second team then can tie...why? the object is to secure a win in overtime as quickly and fairly as possible. The necessity to go for the win in my scenario is on the team that gave up points on the first drive.

Because it makes it fair for both teams and doesn't give the team winning the coin toss an advantage.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Simple premise. Should the team with the first possession score, the team with the second possession must outscore them. Sudden death after no score on these two possessions.

Each team guaranteed one possession in overtime. Should the team taking the kickoff score a touchdown, said touchdown is worth 7 points. No extra points attempted or allowed to be attempted.

Second must team outscore the first team to win the game on their possession whether it be after a 7 point td (ie TD and two point conversion) or a field goal ( a td) or a no score (fg or td). .

Seems like a simple solution to me...


Tell me where I went wrong.

Not bad.

 

[DiehardPanther]

I would just use the College OT Rules, except make them start on the 40 yard line.

 

[pittdan77]

Play 9 on 9 for ten minutes. If the score is still tied after ten minutes, pick five lineman and kick FG's off of a tee from the 20 in a best of 5. If still no winner, go through listed starters on the line until someone comes out ahead.

Imagine the 320 pound nose tackle owning up to his missed kick.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Just play the entire 5th quarter. If there is no winner, then play the 6th quarter.

 

[Pitt79]

Just play the entire 5th quarter. If there is no winner, then play the 6th quarter.

That's like the soccer OT, they play 20 extra minutes, not sudden death.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

Football is different than other sports because possessions are so important. Hoops you play an extra time period. In baseball you play the entire inning. Hockey is sudden death.

I say play an extra quarter or go to the college rule, but start at the 40 like suggested above. The current system is stupid, and creating other weird scoring and possession scenarios isn't going to solve anything.

 

[paulbl99]

That's like the soccer OT, they play 20 extra minutes, not sudden death.

Except playing 20 minutes of soccer is nothing compared with the physicality of real football...

Don’t know if winning the coin toss is such an advantage or not, but if it is system where both teams get a possession except if opening possession results in a TD by O or D....afterwhich it’s sudden death is OK

 

[Pitt79]

Except playing 20 minutes of soccer is nothing compared with the physicality of real football...

Depends on what position you play I suppose, probably most interior lineman wouldn't survive 20 minutes of soccer. Maybe WRs and DBs could, but likely soccer players wouldn't survive playing in the interior line, but the sports are not really comparable.

 

[Pitt79]

I think they should do what the NHL does and have separate rules for regular season and postseason.

For regular season, go with college rules overtime. For the playoffs, just play a 5th quarter, a 6th quarter, etc. until a winner is decided like what @HailtoPitt said.

I wish NHL would just do regular season OT in the playoffs, nothing I hate more than a weeknight, NHL playoff game I have watched from the start, going into overtime at 10:30pm! After watching a few Pens games have 3-4-5 OTs into the wee hours, I set a policy that I watch max, ONE OT, then go to sleep, I don't care it it's "real hockey", I'd rather see the five minute 3 on 3, then maybe the shoot out, then know the result and go to bed.

 

[burnie1105]

I like the core concept, but I would tweak it so that the first team isn't required to take a 7 point TD (i.e. they can decide to kick for a PAT or go for two). I think 'the second team has to outscore the first' is simple and good enough.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Don’t know if winning the coin toss is such an advantage or not

It's not. NFL teams that win the overtime coin toss win 53% of the games. College teams that win the coin toss win 55% of the time.

 

[Pitt79]

See, I’d prefer the games to end on time, but there’s nothing like a sudden death overtime goal!

Some of my favorite Pens memories are Petr Sykora and Nick Bonino’s OT goals. Can’t imagine those moments any other way.

Don't matter to me, since I'm not staying up until 3:00am to see it happen ever again. I'd rather just package the game neatly to not last 8 hours.

 

[h2p012]

It's not. NFL teams that win the overtime coin toss win 53% of the games. College teams that win the coin toss win 55% of the time.

Where are you getting these figures? The rams were the first team since the rule changes in 2010 to win a NFL OT Playoff game without also winning the coin toss.


thats 12.5% winning percentage. Before this past weekend it was 0%.

it should be noted that 3 (including this one) of those games several punts and/or other changes of possession, but the team that won the OT coin toss still did end up winning the game before the Rams did without winning it

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I wish NHL would just do regular season OT in the playoffs, nothing I hate more than a weeknight, NHL playoff game I have watched from the start, going into overtime at 10:30pm! After watching a few Pens games have 3-4-5 OTs into the wee hours, I set a policy that I watch max, ONE OT, then go to sleep, I don't care it it's "real hockey", I'd rather see the five minute 3 on 3, then maybe the shoot out, then know the result and go to bed.

Oh man, I was at the 5OT game against the Flyers in, what year was that, 2000? Wow....most exhausting, draining experience watching a sporting event in my life. And the most time needed a beer after the game only to realize it was past 2:00AM and all the bars were closed.

 

[Pitt79]

Oh man, I was at the 5OT game against the Flyers in, what year was that, 2000? Wow....most exhausting, draining experience watching a sporting event in my life. And the most time needed a beer after the game only to realize it was past 2:00AM and all the bars were closed.

That was one of the ones I stayed up and watched on TV, I think I did it a couple more times, then eventually set my ONE OT limit. Of course if it was Game 7 of the finals I'd lift that restriction, but not otherwise.

 

[McKee Place]

See, I’d prefer the games to end on time, but there’s nothing like a sudden death overtime goal!

Some of my favorite Pens memories are Petr Sykora and Nick Bonino’s OT goals. Can’t imagine those moments any other way.

Did you mean Petr Nedved? That game was amazing and exhausting (I suppose for the actual players as well...but dang the poor fans! )

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Did you mean Petr Nedved? That game was amazing and exhausting (I suppose for the actual players as well...but dang the poor fans! )

that was 95 I think, that was a 3 OT Game. I remember that one.. there were a few we were in.. biggest problem with these 3-4 OT period games is that they quit serving beer after 2nd period so you are basically watching a whole game then some dead sober. that's no good for anyone..

 

[plcp]

Simple premise. Should the team with the first possession score, the team with the second possession must outscore them. Sudden death after no score on these two possessions.

Each team guaranteed one possession in overtime. Should the team taking the kickoff score a touchdown, said touchdown is worth 7 points. No extra points attempted or allowed to be attempted.

Second must team outscore the first team to win the game on their possession whether it be after a 7 point td (ie TD and two point conversion) or a field goal ( a td) or a no score (fg or td). .

Seems like a simple solution to me...


Tell me where I went wrong.

Rather see no PAT rather you have to go for 2 each time. Second team can tie. And it goes on until one can't keep pace.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Where are you getting these figures? The rams were the first team since the rule changes in 2010 to win a NFL OT Playoff game without also winning the coin toss.

Well first of all, are we assuming that the only NFL games that go into overtime are playoff games? That seems to be an odd thing to assume. Or that there is something inherently different about playoff overtime versus regular season overtime, even though the rules are essentially the same (other than playing to a winner)?

Secondly, in three of the seven games that the team who won the coin toss won the game the team that lost the coin toss had the ball with a chance to win. The fact that they didn't is on them, not on the coin toss.

Third, I got those figures from this really weird place called "the internet". There's this thing on their called a "search engine" in which you can search for all sorts of interesting information, and very frequently you can find exactly what you are looking for. For instance, here is a link to this obscure, unknown web site called "NBC Sports":

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...would-remain-important-if-ot-rule-is-tweaked/

Here is the money paragraph for those who don't want to take the time to read the story:

"In the NFL, 52.7 percent of teams winning the overtime coin toss (and receiving) win the game at some point in overtime, according to Ross Tucker of SiriusXM NFL Radio. In college football, the team that wins the coin toss (and defers) wins 54.9 percent of the time."

Whew! I have to admit it took all of like 30 seconds to find that! Man, I am worn out.

 

[wbrpanther]

Simple premise. Should the team with the first possession score, the team with the second possession must outscore them. Sudden death after no score on these two possessions.

Each team guaranteed one possession in overtime. Should the team taking the kickoff score a touchdown, said touchdown is worth 7 points. No extra points attempted or allowed to be attempted.

Second must team outscore the first team to win the game on their possession whether it be after a 7 point td (ie TD and two point conversion) or a field goal ( a td) or a no score (fg or td). .

Seems like a simple solution to me...


Tell me where I went wrong.

When they changed the OT to ensure the second team would get a possession if the first team kicked a FG, they should have just made it that both teams are insured a possession, period. If it is tied after that, back to sudden death. That's even simpler.

 

[pbrad]

Simple premise. Should the team with the first possession score, the team with the second possession must outscore them. Sudden death after no score on these two possessions.

Each team guaranteed one possession in overtime. Should the team taking the kickoff score a touchdown, said touchdown is worth 7 points. No extra points attempted or allowed to be attempted.

Second must team outscore the first team to win the game on their possession whether it be after a 7 point td (ie TD and two point conversion) or a field goal ( a td) or a no score (fg or td). .

Seems like a simple solution to me...


Tell me where I went wrong.

Extra points are no longer a gimme. They have to kick.

 

[dieselmilk]

Overtime should be a new 15-minute period played in its entirety. If it's still a tie, tack on another 15 minutes as a continuation. Even if 15 minutes is too long, you need to set a time limit and not have golden goals. Because you can't puck drop, winning a coin flip is the most ridiculous way to decide who can have the ball first when you can win on golden goal.

If that won't work, screw the kickoff. Each team starts a drive from midfield and get equal attempts to score. When each team tries once, highest score wins. If it's a tie, do it again.