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This is why there's no chance that the stillers win anything. Their cap management is a joke and Khan just continues to double down on the stupid.

cap hits of Queen and Minkah being 40m is beyond frustrating..
 
Yeah , am I missing something ? Doesn't this mean the Steelers have some flexibility and are not tied down to terrible contracts like the Browns ?
That’s what I was thinking. Lots of flexibility to flip the roster… assuming we’re going to spend to the cap. Overall, I haven’t had issues with Khan’s spending to date, so I’m cautiously optimistic.
 
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The Steelers haven't had many young players worthy of re-signing so it's not surprising there isn't much in terms of long-term money locked up. Philadelphia also turned over 9 of 11 defensive starters since their last Super Bowl appearances. Teams can get real good real fast with good drafting and smart free agent signings.
 
The Steelers haven't had many young players worthy of re-signing so it's not surprising there isn't much in terms of long-term money locked up. Philadelphia also turned over 9 of 11 defensive starters since their last Super Bowl appearances. Teams can get real good real fast with good drafting and smart free agent signings.
This is important to remember. Since Khan/Weidl really didn’t have their first draft class until 2023, I think it’ll even be another year or two until the roster feels deeper across the board.

As much as I have issues with Tomlin and the offense, the issues are just as much talent and depth-related as well.
 
This is important to remember. Since Khan/Weidl really didn’t have their first draft class until 2023, I think it’ll even be another year or two until the roster feels deeper across the board.

As much as I have issues with Tomlin and the offense, the issues are just as much talent and depth-related as well.

Based on what, besides blind optimism? His drafts haven't been good.

2023 draft with the #14, #32 and #49 picks they ended up with Jones, Avocado Toast and Benton. That's simply not good. They are hoping that Herbig and Trice can bail out this draft.
 
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Based on what, besides blind optimism? His drafts haven't been good.
His 2023 class has already produced four starters (Jones, JPJ, Benton, Herbig); the overall grade will depend on how Jones does when he moves to LT.

For 2024, I think he hit on four of his first five picks and already two (three next season) starters- Fautanu, Frazier, P. Wilson. Jury’s still out on Roman Wilson depending on how he returns from injury.
 
multiple reports have come out from pittsburgh media that tomlin is caling the shots, not only on coaching but free agency and draft picks..

unless all these insiders are wrong, i dont think khan and weidl have much say on who we draft..
 
multiple reports have come out from pittsburgh media that tomlin is caling the shots, not only on coaching but free agency and draft picks..

unless all these insiders are wrong, i dont think khan and weidl have much say on who we draft..
Those insiders don’t know anything
If it’s remotely true - Rooney needs to sell the team
 
Man I hated the Roman Wilson pick.
I would draft Emeka from Ohio State and so no to Luther Burden.
Emeka, according to lots of scouts, has the upside as a #2 WR…but he’s said to be the most NFL ready. He’s also said to not be a headcase like most Steeler WR picks.

Would you invest a #1 pick for a #2 WR who won’t cause problems?
 
Emeka, according to lots of scouts, has the upside as a #2 WR…but he’s said to be the most NFL ready. He’s also said to not be a headcase like most Steeler WR picks.

Would you invest a #1 pick for a #2 WR who won’t cause problems?
I think that depends on whether you think a WR2 was what held them back this year.

Personally, I think they’re a few additional pieces away; I’d rather spend a day two pick to acquire Cooper Kupp and then use that first round pick on another position of need.
 
His 2023 class has already produced four starters (Jones, JPJ, Benton, Herbig); the overall grade will depend on how Jones does when he moves to LT.

For 2024, I think he hit on four of his first five picks and already two (three next season) starters- Fautanu, Frazier, P. Wilson. Jury’s still out on Roman Wilson depending on how he returns from injury.

Jones and Avocado Toast are awful and "started" because they didn't have alternatives. Benton is just a fill-in space guy. They are simply not starting on any top teams.

With two first round slots and top 50 pick in the second- that's simply not good.... unless the goal is to maintain their perpetual .500 level of ball.

Last year's draft was all about hoping Fautanu's flagged knee was going to be OK. It wasn't.

If they didn't spend $132 million on a subpar defense- we wouldn't be having this discussion of why "not very good players" need to start on a bad team. They could have dumped these guys and built some real depth but instead Khan thinks over-paying Cam and Muth somehow made sense.

Let me ask you this- Who do think will be a "difference-maker" in his first 2 drafts?

Maybe Jones, if he somehow turns into a completely different player? Fautanu if his knee holds up?
 
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I think that depends on whether you think a WR2 was what held them back this year.

Personally, I think they’re a few additional pieces away; I’d rather spend a day two pick to acquire Cooper Kupp and then use that first round pick on another position of need.
Is this being floated out there?
 
I think that depends on whether you think a WR2 was what held them back this year.

Personally, I think they’re a few additional pieces away; I’d rather spend a day two pick to acquire Cooper Kupp and then use that first round pick on another position of need.

Pickens is an inconsistent WR2. They need a WR1 and WR3 and apparently a replacement for their current WR2.
 
Pickens is an inconsistent WR2. They need a WR1 and WR3 and apparently a replacement for their current WR2.
I think we’ll find out soon what the front office thinks of Pickens. I don’t think they’d let him walk for nothing, so I’d imagine they’ll either extend him or trade him this offseason.

I said I wouldn’t use a first round pick on a WR, but I’d be fine with doing so if they ship him out (which I have no problem with; he doesn’t put up AB numbers to justify creating AB drama).
 
Jones and Avocado Toast are awful and "started" because they didn't have alternatives. Benton is just a fill-in space guy. They are simply not starting on any top teams.

With two first round slots and top 50 pick in the second- that's simply not good.... unless the goal is to maintain their perpetual .500 level of ball.

Last year's draft was all about hoping Fautanu's flagged knee was going to be OK. It wasn't.

If they didn't spend $132 million on a subpar defense- we wouldn't be having this discussion of why "not very good players" need to start on a bad team. They could have dumped these guys and built some real depth but instead Khan thinks over-paying Cam and Muth somehow made sense.

Let me ask you this- Who do think will be a "difference-maker" in his first 2 drafts?

Maybe Jones, if he somehow turns into a completely different player? Fautanu if his knee holds up?
IMO, the real difference maker will be Peyton Wilson. If he stays healthy, I think he can produce at a Ryan Shazier level for a while with his speed and athleticism. We haven’t had a true dual threat ILB like him in a while- someone who can stop the run and drop back into coverage.

When I look back at 2023, I also don’t see anyone they could’ve drafted at the same positions who would’ve been an upgrade. They could’ve drafted LaPorta or Branch, both of whom ended up in Detroit, but they weren’t going to use Top 50 draft capital on a TE or safety. You could argue they should’ve drafted Anton Harrison over Jones, but Jones was rated much higher and was the correct pick at the time.
 
I’d trade them 100%

Rooney will extend them
This is the difference between father and son. Father let Rod Woodson walk. Joey Porter. Alan Faneca. Even Franco and Mike Webster. Son is a friggin cuck.
I think there’s a middle ground here. I don’t think you should overpay on two guys set to be 29 and 31 next season, but there’s also enough cap room available where they can keep them *and* upgrade the roster.

Unless the goal is to bottom out and do a complete rebuild (which they’d never go for), I don’t see how they maintain their current standing while trading away their two most talented players. This isn’t like the Chiefs shipping out Tyreek Hill.
 
Emeka, according to lots of scouts, has the upside as a #2 WR…but he’s said to be the most NFL ready. He’s also said to not be a headcase like most Steeler WR picks.

Would you invest a #1 pick for a #2 WR who won’t cause problems?
Yeah I definitely would. He is projected to go in the 1st round. I also would get another FA or cheap trade addition WR. Austin is only good as a WR4 , not WR3.
But they need a QB.
Call me crazy but WTH I would get Rodgers if they could. Who cares, can't be worse than last decade of nothing.
Have to score points to win in the AFC.
If that fails just draft a QB in 26 draft held in Pittsburgh.
 
IMO, the real difference maker will be Peyton Wilson. If he stays healthy, I think he can produce at a Ryan Shazier level for a while with his speed and athleticism. We haven’t had a true dual threat ILB like him in a while- someone who can stop the run and drop back into coverage.

When I look back at 2023, I also don’t see anyone they could’ve drafted at the same positions who would’ve been an upgrade. They could’ve drafted LaPorta or Branch, both of whom ended up in Detroit, but they weren’t going to use Top 50 draft capital on a TE or safety. You could argue they should’ve drafted Anton Harrison over Jones, but Jones was rated much higher and was the correct pick at the time.

Peyton Wilson is talented but never could stay healthy and doesn't have an ACL. He is a huge roll of the dice long-term. Definitely looks like a player when healthy.
 
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Yeah I definitely would. He is projected to go in the 1st round. I also would get another FA or cheap trade addition WR. Austin is only good as a WR4 , not WR3.
But they need a QB.
Call me crazy but WTH I would get Rodgers if they could. Who cares, can't be worse than last decade of nothing.
Have to score points to win in the AFC.
If that fails just draft a QB in 26 draft held in Pittsburgh.
Here's the deal. I do not marry myself to a certain position, especially rd 1 which is pretty much exactly what the Steelers have done since like 2015.
 
I think there’s a middle ground here. I don’t think you should overpay on two guys set to be 29 and 31 next season, but there’s also enough cap room available where they can keep them *and* upgrade the roster.

Unless the goal is to bottom out and do a complete rebuild (which they’d never go for), I don’t see how they maintain their current standing while trading away their two most talented players. This isn’t like the Chiefs shipping out Tyreek Hill.
TJ and Minkah play the wrong positions to be earning those salaries.
 
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TJ and Minkah play the wrong positions to be earning those salaries.
To be honest, I don’t have a problem with their current contracts because we aren’t spending much on a QB right now. Minkah isn’t even making $20M and there’s 13 other edge rushers who make $20M+.

If we had a quarterback getting ready to receive his second contract, then I’d be more hesitant to pay them like that.
 
Yeah I definitely would. He is projected to go in the 1st round. I also would get another FA or cheap trade addition WR. Austin is only good as a WR4 , not WR3.
But they need a QB.
Call me crazy but WTH I would get Rodgers if they could. Who cares, can't be worse than last decade of nothing.
Have to score points to win in the AFC.
If that fails just draft a QB in 26 draft held in Pittsburgh.
You’re crazy hell no
 
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