OT: No, Jimmy, no!
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Somewhere around 1978, Jim Boeheim deep picked his nose and scarred the portion of his brain that controls classy behavior.
As long as he isn't going out of his way to run over anyone on the highway.
Is that actually an attack - when he’s using the reporters own words against him?
frankly -I think it’s funny -
Pretty sure -but why not point out you read their second guessing and shove it back on occasion ?
I honestly think this is his last ride. I’m sure this year has been hard on him. However shoutout to him for having a kid at 60 or whatever
At least he didn't look like Bernie Sanders when he was young. Although I don't know what a young Bernie Sanders looked like.
Not meant as political commentary.
He is using the reporter’s height against him, implying that if the guy was taller, his opinion would be more valid.
I saw him and his wife in person when they were at the NY State basketball tournament to watch their daughter play a couple of years ago. It was so funny to watch him when a referee made a call against his daughter's team that he didn't like. He had the same palms-up-frustrated-face look that we have seen countless times on TV through the years.
I think it’s the reporters total lack of actual experience to second guess his playing time rotations
I am fine with a coach telling reporters how little they know
So you are saying that no reporter without significant experience playing a sport should question a coach's decisions? Should a coach with no reporting experience question a reporter's comments?
If their comments are about something outside of their expertise no
Likewise perhaps reporters who know little about coaching high level college basketball - should stick to reporting - and not editorials ?
i have no problem at all with it being a two way street.
you apparently do
What expertise does one need to comment about college basketball - or any other sport, for that matter? If you are going to restrict comments to only those who have played the game, whatever that game might be, then you are going to eliminate the vast majority of sports reporters. Sports reporting is not rocket science.
What do you mean by a "two way street?" The reporter made what seems like a fairly innocuous twitter comment, and Boeheim did not address the actual comment. Instead, he questioned the guy's credentials - and his height. Those are very different streets.
Let’s recap
reporter questions rotations and playing time for his team
later same reporter asks a question - which
Boeheim takes a shot at him for his previous commentary on what the coach was doing wrong -
By pointing out how unqualified he is to make those judgements
I say that’s fair game -since accountability for public comment is a two way street
you disagree because the media can say whatever they want - but coaches should grin and take it - because you believe in a double standard .
I don’t
That’s all
You are ducking my question - why is he unqualified to question the coach's decision? Here is his bio:
Matthew Gutierrez is a staff writer for The Athletic, covering Syracuse basketball and football, as well as golf. He has written for The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post, among others. Previously, he covered Syracuse basketball and football for The Daily Orange, the student newspaper.
The reporter questioned Boeheim's decision, not his qualifications to make it. Boeheim did not defend his decision - that would be fair game - he attacked the reporter.
He attacked the reporter who questioned his rotations ans playing time decisions by pointing out he doesn’t know anything about basketball
his bio doesn’t support his knowledge
At what level does one have to have played the game before they can comment on college basketball, or college football? Is that level even higher for commenting on the NBA or the NFL?
What it all boils down to is that some people think that basketball (or football, or whatever sport) is so hard to understand that unless you have their certain, specialized knowledge you can't possibly understand the game at a level high enough to comment on it. Jim Boeheim obviously feels that way.
Just as obviously, that's bullcrap.
Basically the point that you are subscribing to is that it's not even possible for Boeheim to make a mistake, and that even if it was only the people who are at Boehiem's level could possible know and understand that he was wrong. "Don't question me, I am the EXPERT!"
Which is obviously bullcrap.
No one sounds sillier than “you never played the game” guy.
I've said this to people before. You know the old saying "it's not rocket science"? Well as someone who actually studied rocket science in college (edited to add, at an admittedly low level) the notion that there is something that Jim Boehiem does as a basketball coach is just too difficult or complex for me to understand is laughable.
Nah
It’s not that complicated
And as noted when reporters want to second guess a coach as fair game -
I likewise think it’s fair game for the coach to criticize the reporters opinion
I’m for a two way street
I agree, it is fair to criticize the reporter's opinion - that is a two-way street. That is not what Boeheim did - he never mentioned that opinion, whatever it was, he said that the reporter was not qualified to comment, and even brought up his height. That is the issue here, not whether it is fair to disagree with a reporter.
Well since the beginning was specifically about the reporters comments about rotations and playing time - before insulting his height and lack of actual sports experience -
Seems I don’t see the problem
just like I don’t see a problem if his media cohorts want to stop giving boeheim press in solidarity for insulting their midget compatriot-
So would it be a problem if the reporter said that Boeheim's rotations were obviously wrong because he's a notorious nose picker and nose pickers are dumb and of low moral character?
I have no problem with Boeheim talking about the reporter's opinion and why he thinks the reporter was wrong. That's not what he did and that's not what he's getting heat for. He's getting heat for taking personal shots at someone simply because that person had the temerity to disagree with him.
It's the kind of thing a kid on the playground does when he can't make a coherent argument. He ought to be better than that.
But the beginning was not about that - the reporter asked Boeheim about something else entirely. He answered that question, then attacked the reporter for his comments in a tweet. I guess the reporter was qualified enough that Boeheim answered the original question, but not qualified enough to comment on his player rotation.
Having watch and listened to my fair share of NBA and NFL commentary, I will almost always opt for the journalist who never played at a competitive level (Zach Lowe, Mina Kimes) over whatever semi-coherent former player gets trotted out as a talking head.
I hate dumb jocks and the jockracy. They just spout cliches or dumb comments covering up for their buddies. When I listen to sports radio, I would much rather listen to a beat writer or commentator in discussing a team than some play by play ex player because it is all that "rah rah cliches" and they have that condescending air of not making detailed analysis because they don't think people would understand. It is sports, it is not rocket science. We can understand.
One thing I wonder is Jimmy always seemed like he was going to hand pick his successor. And for the longest time that looked to be Mike Hopkins. And it still maybe but Hopkins has bombed at UW. So you wonder if they would keep it in the family or go out and have a real coaching search.
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