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First off, I am thankful I still have a job. And, at least as of yet, we haven't been asked for any type of salary considerations (for one thing, we are saving money by not having plane trips, hotels, restaurants, bars and fuel) so that mitigates our expenses in some ways.....

But my last on site customer visit was 3/16 right as things were closing down. Clairton USX works. I am not officially getting bored. I can only look at my customer lists so much, I can only ask them "how they are doing" and "if you need anything holler" so many times without becoming a pain in the ass.

I am tired of even surfing the Lair. Twitter. I love sports, I mean there isn't much sports to read. The NFL Draft? When your team has 1 pick in the top 100, it loses some of its luster and I am already sick of it. Politics? It is either Trump is Satan or Trump is Jesus, there is nothing in between and reading and discussing politics really has become an endeavor with the satisfaction of playing tic tac toe. It is just beating your head against the wall or watching partisan tennis, back and forth, back and forth.

I am effing bored. I could say I can give up sports, or deal with less of it, if there was only something else to do. You can only cut your grass so much. Thank god I have a house, I would hate the fact if I lived in an apartment, by myself (which I have had to do for long periods of life) my god, it would be so much worse.

My dogs are my entertainment and salvation, thank god they are healthy, robust types with big personalities that they cause me to laugh at least 100 times a day as just the one did coming in with her stuffed animal and shaking it in the face of the other to agitate it (just happened as I typed). But man....only so much Netflix and You Tube you can binge (and thank god for these two entities, the greatest inventions of the last 20 years).

It is so bad, that at 50ish, I am contemplating getting a PS4 platform, not for kids, but for me. At least I can make my own sports. I am serious about this. I have started jogging and working out more which is good. But today....it is crappy out, I cut the grass yesterday, I can't just sit in front of the computer "strategizing" about the future, or are markets and customers, another guess on who will lose what business so I can give to our finance people for their 12th reforecast to management since this has happened. As I told someone on a conference call, "if I knew what the aerospace market is going to do the rest of 2020, I should be working for a hedge fund, not here" (though I know this....it is not good).

Somehow, I think it is a race right now. I am sure many of you feel like this. A race between some sort of semblance of a return to normalcy vs becoming irrelevant (ie "not needed") for my company. It is definitely a malaise today. We all have good day and bad days. We all hope, but man again I am not a religious person because reality always gets in the way of faith, so I am a natural skeptic.

I need to step away today. But I have nothing to step away too. I am not looking for sympathy at all, because you are all in the same boat, many worse. I am just venting. I am not blaming anyone. It just is. It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity.

I don't know how long this is going to go on. I don't know how long any of us can maintain this current path. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry for bugging you all.
 
Go through your Rolodex/phone. Every time you come across someone and it dawns on you that I’ve been meaning to get in touch/I haven’t talked to so and so in a while stop immediately and call them.

For me the isolation/social distancing is the least of it but it still helps to talk to some people.
 
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The answer to your problem is simple

Now is the perfect time to find some books that interest you. Find the most comfortable place in your home and lose yourself in a good story.

I mean....before this all started who here can admit they had time to read as much as they would like to? Now is the time.

If I am not mistaken, you enjoy golf. There's gotta be books that would interest you? (In fact, I may find something related to golf to read myself)

Read. It will pass the time and you will be productive in doing so.
 
First off, I am thankful I still have a job. And, at least as of yet, we haven't been asked for any type of salary considerations (for one thing, we are saving money by not having plane trips, hotels, restaurants, bars and fuel) so that mitigates our expenses in some ways.....

But my last on site customer visit was 3/16 right as things were closing down. Clairton USX works. I am not officially getting bored. I can only look at my customer lists so much, I can only ask them "how they are doing" and "if you need anything holler" so many times without becoming a pain in the ass.

I am tired of even surfing the Lair. Twitter. I love sports, I mean there isn't much sports to read. The NFL Draft? When your team has 1 pick in the top 100, it loses some of its luster and I am already sick of it. Politics? It is either Trump is Satan or Trump is Jesus, there is nothing in between and reading and discussing politics really has become an endeavor with the satisfaction of playing tic tac toe. It is just beating your head against the wall or watching partisan tennis, back and forth, back and forth.

I am effing bored. I could say I can give up sports, or deal with less of it, if there was only something else to do. You can only cut your grass so much. Thank god I have a house, I would hate the fact if I lived in an apartment, by myself (which I have had to do for long periods of life) my god, it would be so much worse.

My dogs are my entertainment and salvation, thank god they are healthy, robust types with big personalities that they cause me to laugh at least 100 times a day as just the one did coming in with her stuffed animal and shaking it in the face of the other to agitate it (just happened as I typed). But man....only so much Netflix and You Tube you can binge (and thank god for these two entities, the greatest inventions of the last 20 years).

It is so bad, that at 50ish, I am contemplating getting a PS4 platform, not for kids, but for me. At least I can make my own sports. I am serious about this. I have started jogging and working out more which is good. But today....it is crappy out, I cut the grass yesterday, I can't just sit in front of the computer "strategizing" about the future, or are markets and customers, another guess on who will lose what business so I can give to our finance people for their 12th reforecast to management since this has happened. As I told someone on a conference call, "if I knew what the aerospace market is going to do the rest of 2020, I should be working for a hedge fund, not here" (though I know this....it is not good).

Somehow, I think it is a race right now. I am sure many of you feel like this. A race between some sort of semblance of a return to normalcy vs becoming irrelevant (ie "not needed") for my company. It is definitely a malaise today. We all have good day and bad days. We all hope, but man again I am not a religious person because reality always gets in the way of faith, so I am a natural skeptic.

I need to step away today. But I have nothing to step away too. I am not looking for sympathy at all, because you are all in the same boat, many worse. I am just venting. I am not blaming anyone. It just is. It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity.

I don't know how long this is going to go on. I don't know how long any of us can maintain this current path. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry for bugging you all.
If I could like this 100+ times I would. The details are different (substitute dogs for cats, etc.) but I feel the same way.

Yesterday was probably the worst day so far. My brain was suggesting all these great projects/activities, but I mostly sat on the couch looking out at space. My husband still has his job, my youngest still has his job, our eldest is here which is such a gift since I didn't think we would ever have this time again, we own our home and cars, my Mom is safe and being cared for, etc, etc., etc. But then I think about friends who don't have these luxuries and my heart breaks witnessing the incredible stress they are under especially as they watch their livelihood and dreams dry up. Plus as evidenced here in these forums, agendas have pitted people against each other even though there are no winners or some moral ground that's higher than someone else.

So there's some guilt, fear, sadness and anger mixed in with good, old fashioned boredom and poof! I went kind of brain dead yesterday.

The one thing that has really helped is continuing my workouts at home. It's not the same even when zooming with my trainer, but working up a good sweat can only help. Focusing on making healthy meals and sleep. I've reached out to various organizations to volunteer but those are in short supply too. I'd love to give back in addition to monetary donations.

Other than that, I too am searching.
 
The answer to your problem is simple

Now is the perfect time to find some books that interest you. Find the most comfortable place in your home and lose yourself in a good story.

I mean....before this all started who here can admit they had time to read as much as they would like to? Now is the time.

If I am not mistaken, you enjoy golf. There's gotta be books that would interest you? (In fact, I may find something related to golf to read myself)

Read. It will pass the time and you will be productive in doing so.
I read...................alot. Reading Flea's autobiography right now. Front Row at Trump Show by Jonathan Karl is due to arrive by end of the week.

This (reading) will be much more enjoyable when the weather is nicer, I can sit on my deck, let the dogs roam in the yard and read a book sipping on a nice gin and tonic. So yeah....that will happen. As will a vegetable garden this year. But still...... I am someone who spends 70% of my days on the road. While it is nice to be home with dogs and family, it gets old. Again, not wanting to personally whine, so many have it so much worse. Just today....I don't know....the vastness of this endless (so far) sequestered life got to me.
 
Similar thoughts experiences here. One thing that is different for us is that we have 2 young kids in the house. Some people say "Oh that is great. SOmething to entertain you!" I want to say "F YOU!"...they don't entertain us, we have to entertain them. We have to work and entertain them from home. The weather is f'en miserable. I f'en hate APRIL now because of this BS weather...which is likely standard for April, but I didn't pay attention before. Every day is f'en clouds....but it can clear up at night to allow a freeze, but then during the day, we get all clouds.

I would like to read more or binge watch a show or do more house projects, but it isn't easy when the kids are really young but mobile.

With that said, we are healthy (as far as we know) and employed, so I am grateful.

And yes, coming here is getting boring. I try to start some non political posts, but they crater. i can't believe no one had anything to add about ordering liquor online.
 
Similar thoughts experiences here. One thing that is different for us is that we have 2 young kids in the house. Some people say "Oh that is great. SOmething to entertain you!" I want to say "F YOU!"...they don't entertain us, we have to entertain them. We have to work and entertain them from home. The weather is f'en miserable. I f'en hate APRIL now because of this BS weather...which is likely standard for April, but I didn't pay attention before. Every day is f'en clouds....but it can clear up at night to allow a freeze, but then during the day, we get all clouds.

I would like to read more or binge watch a show or do more house projects, but it isn't easy when the kids are really young but mobile.

With that said, we are healthy (as far as we know) and employed, so I am grateful.

And yes, coming here is getting boring. I try to start some non political posts, but they crater. i can't believe no one had anything to add about ordering liquor online.
This is actually what typical April weather is for these parts, but the past few years we have gone right into warmer weather.
 
Similar thoughts experiences here. One thing that is different for us is that we have 2 young kids in the house. Some people say "Oh that is great. SOmething to entertain you!" I want to say "F YOU!"...they don't entertain us, we have to entertain them. We have to work and entertain them from home. The weather is f'en miserable. I f'en hate APRIL now because of this BS weather...which is likely standard for April, but I didn't pay attention before. Every day is f'en clouds....but it can clear up at night to allow a freeze, but then during the day, we get all clouds.

I would like to read more or binge watch a show or do more house projects, but it isn't easy when the kids are really young but mobile.

With that said, we are healthy (as far as we know) and employed, so I am grateful.

And yes, coming here is getting boring. I try to start some non political posts, but they crater. i can't believe no one had anything to add about ordering liquor online.
LOL
 
And when the warm weather comes are we even gonna be allowed or want to go to beaches or concerts or family get togethers without fear?
The main thing is to maintain your health but mental health is important as well . Despite the weather I have been walking about five miles a day spaced out on two walks . My wife and I have already canceled a trip to beaches in Florida and New Jersey and have an annual family trip to Ocean City , Maryland for mid August that is still in doubt. And let’s face if you are on this message board you are a Pitt fan and we’re awaiting the most anticipated Pitt season in a long time and it may not even happpen. Hang in there and stay well !
 
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First off, I am thankful I still have a job. And, at least as of yet, we haven't been asked for any type of salary considerations (for one thing, we are saving money by not having plane trips, hotels, restaurants, bars and fuel) so that mitigates our expenses in some ways.....

But my last on site customer visit was 3/16 right as things were closing down. Clairton USX works. I am not officially getting bored. I can only look at my customer lists so much, I can only ask them "how they are doing" and "if you need anything holler" so many times without becoming a pain in the ass.

I am tired of even surfing the Lair. Twitter. I love sports, I mean there isn't much sports to read. The NFL Draft? When your team has 1 pick in the top 100, it loses some of its luster and I am already sick of it. Politics? It is either Trump is Satan or Trump is Jesus, there is nothing in between and reading and discussing politics really has become an endeavor with the satisfaction of playing tic tac toe. It is just beating your head against the wall or watching partisan tennis, back and forth, back and forth.

I am effing bored. I could say I can give up sports, or deal with less of it, if there was only something else to do. You can only cut your grass so much. Thank god I have a house, I would hate the fact if I lived in an apartment, by myself (which I have had to do for long periods of life) my god, it would be so much worse.

My dogs are my entertainment and salvation, thank god they are healthy, robust types with big personalities that they cause me to laugh at least 100 times a day as just the one did coming in with her stuffed animal and shaking it in the face of the other to agitate it (just happened as I typed). But man....only so much Netflix and You Tube you can binge (and thank god for these two entities, the greatest inventions of the last 20 years).

It is so bad, that at 50ish, I am contemplating getting a PS4 platform, not for kids, but for me. At least I can make my own sports. I am serious about this. I have started jogging and working out more which is good. But today....it is crappy out, I cut the grass yesterday, I can't just sit in front of the computer "strategizing" about the future, or are markets and customers, another guess on who will lose what business so I can give to our finance people for their 12th reforecast to management since this has happened. As I told someone on a conference call, "if I knew what the aerospace market is going to do the rest of 2020, I should be working for a hedge fund, not here" (though I know this....it is not good).

Somehow, I think it is a race right now. I am sure many of you feel like this. A race between some sort of semblance of a return to normalcy vs becoming irrelevant (ie "not needed") for my company. It is definitely a malaise today. We all have good day and bad days. We all hope, but man again I am not a religious person because reality always gets in the way of faith, so I am a natural skeptic.

I need to step away today. But I have nothing to step away too. I am not looking for sympathy at all, because you are all in the same boat, many worse. I am just venting. I am not blaming anyone. It just is. It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity.

I don't know how long this is going to go on. I don't know how long any of us can maintain this current path. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry for bugging you all.
WOW. By the length of this post you REALLY are bored. LOL
 
Temps about 12-15 degrees lower than average???
Yes. Seems like the warmer than average temps in the Winter have become the cooler than average temps in the Spring. Even worse are the almost constant winds. At least up here in the mountains. Tough to get out and walk in that stuff.
 
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Yes. Seems like the warmer than average temps in the Winter have become the cooler than average temps in the Spring. Even worse are the almost constant winds. At least up here in the mountains. Tough to get out and walk in that stuff.
We live in a complex on a hilltop....wind has been a bummer. we've been walking in circles in the house....ultra boring. Wifey is a great cook. added a couple lbs in the last month. Had more wine delivered, so it's not awful, but cabin fever is no fun
 
My life really hasn't changed much since this all began. There are so many fantastic trails around here; I hit different ones with my dogs all the time. Between working, working out, cleaning the house, mowing the grass, etc., I'm still complaining about there not being enough hours in a day. Then again, football is really the only sport I look forward to these days. So I might be a little more antsy if this is still going on in the Fall. As it stands, I haven't turned cable on since around the time of the last Pitt basketball game. And if hockey and baseball were happening right now, I still wouldn't care to do so. And I don't do bars and restaurants much anymore either, so this is really nothing new for us introverts.
 
We live in a complex on a hilltop....wind has been a bummer. we've been walking in circles in the house....ultra boring. Wifey is a great cook. added a couple lbs in the last month. Had more wine delivered, so it's not awful, but cabin fever is no fun
In a minor miracle I have actually lost a couple. After 5 weeks of boredom snacking I had access to a scale at doctor's office. I jumped on hoping I gained less than 10 pounds and was shocked. Shocked at losing 2 pounds and equally shocked that the scale didn't say "one at a time, please".
 
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We live in a complex on a hilltop....wind has been a bummer. we've been walking in circles in the house....ultra boring. Wifey is a great cook. added a couple lbs in the last month. Had more wine delivered, so it's not awful, but cabin fever is no fun
I mean really windy today. But my dogs challenged me and I just came back from a nice little Mile and a half jaunt with them.......so this is at least forcing me to do some decent physical activity every day. Which I can't believe how much I let myself go.

But yeah bored, depressed, worried, not real happy. And again, not blaming anyone. It just "IS". I think in this country we would be equipped to cope with this if we understand this is essentially an "act of god" instead of some politically motivated virus. That is most depressing of all.
 
Similar thoughts experiences here. One thing that is different for us is that we have 2 young kids in the house. Some people say "Oh that is great. SOmething to entertain you!" I want to say "F YOU!"...they don't entertain us, we have to entertain them. We have to work and entertain them from home. The weather is f'en miserable. I f'en hate APRIL now because of this BS weather...which is likely standard for April, but I didn't pay attention before. Every day is f'en clouds....but it can clear up at night to allow a freeze, but then during the day, we get all clouds.

I would like to read more or binge watch a show or do more house projects, but it isn't easy when the kids are really young but mobile.

With that said, we are healthy (as far as we know) and employed, so I am grateful.

And yes, coming here is getting boring. I try to start some non political posts, but they crater. i can't believe no one had anything to add about ordering liquor online.

kids want something almost every second of the day unless they're playing video games or watching tv. little devils.
 
Boo freakin Hoo. Suck it up and make do.

I've caught up with relatives and old college friends in the middle east, europe, and across the country. Spent quality time with my wife and kids. Done cool and fun stuff in the house with food, crafts, games, etc. Played hoops with the kids, caught up on yard work, walked, rode bikes.

Life is still good.
 
First off, I am thankful I still have a job. And, at least as of yet, we haven't been asked for any type of salary considerations (for one thing, we are saving money by not having plane trips, hotels, restaurants, bars and fuel) so that mitigates our expenses in some ways.....

But my last on site customer visit was 3/16 right as things were closing down. Clairton USX works. I am not officially getting bored. I can only look at my customer lists so much, I can only ask them "how they are doing" and "if you need anything holler" so many times without becoming a pain in the ass.

I am tired of even surfing the Lair. Twitter. I love sports, I mean there isn't much sports to read. The NFL Draft? When your team has 1 pick in the top 100, it loses some of its luster and I am already sick of it. Politics? It is either Trump is Satan or Trump is Jesus, there is nothing in between and reading and discussing politics really has become an endeavor with the satisfaction of playing tic tac toe. It is just beating your head against the wall or watching partisan tennis, back and forth, back and forth.

I am effing bored. I could say I can give up sports, or deal with less of it, if there was only something else to do. You can only cut your grass so much. Thank god I have a house, I would hate the fact if I lived in an apartment, by myself (which I have had to do for long periods of life) my god, it would be so much worse.

My dogs are my entertainment and salvation, thank god they are healthy, robust types with big personalities that they cause me to laugh at least 100 times a day as just the one did coming in with her stuffed animal and shaking it in the face of the other to agitate it (just happened as I typed). But man....only so much Netflix and You Tube you can binge (and thank god for these two entities, the greatest inventions of the last 20 years).

It is so bad, that at 50ish, I am contemplating getting a PS4 platform, not for kids, but for me. At least I can make my own sports. I am serious about this. I have started jogging and working out more which is good. But today....it is crappy out, I cut the grass yesterday, I can't just sit in front of the computer "strategizing" about the future, or are markets and customers, another guess on who will lose what business so I can give to our finance people for their 12th reforecast to management since this has happened. As I told someone on a conference call, "if I knew what the aerospace market is going to do the rest of 2020, I should be working for a hedge fund, not here" (though I know this....it is not good).

Somehow, I think it is a race right now. I am sure many of you feel like this. A race between some sort of semblance of a return to normalcy vs becoming irrelevant (ie "not needed") for my company. It is definitely a malaise today. We all have good day and bad days. We all hope, but man again I am not a religious person because reality always gets in the way of faith, so I am a natural skeptic.

I need to step away today. But I have nothing to step away too. I am not looking for sympathy at all, because you are all in the same boat, many worse. I am just venting. I am not blaming anyone. It just is. It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity.

I don't know how long this is going to go on. I don't know how long any of us can maintain this current path. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry for bugging you all.
In my anti April weather rant, I never mentioned that I think you should get a PS4 or some type of game counsel. Now is the time...those games can be like crack in that you get addicted. It will take your time off of stuff and if you likely can afford it.
All I can do now to entertain myself while working and watching kids is fart
 
First off, I am thankful I still have a job. And, at least as of yet, we haven't been asked for any type of salary considerations (for one thing, we are saving money by not having plane trips, hotels, restaurants, bars and fuel) so that mitigates our expenses in some ways.....

But my last on site customer visit was 3/16 right as things were closing down. Clairton USX works. I am not officially getting bored. I can only look at my customer lists so much, I can only ask them "how they are doing" and "if you need anything holler" so many times without becoming a pain in the ass.

I am tired of even surfing the Lair. Twitter. I love sports, I mean there isn't much sports to read. The NFL Draft? When your team has 1 pick in the top 100, it loses some of its luster and I am already sick of it. Politics? It is either Trump is Satan or Trump is Jesus, there is nothing in between and reading and discussing politics really has become an endeavor with the satisfaction of playing tic tac toe. It is just beating your head against the wall or watching partisan tennis, back and forth, back and forth.

I am effing bored. I could say I can give up sports, or deal with less of it, if there was only something else to do. You can only cut your grass so much. Thank god I have a house, I would hate the fact if I lived in an apartment, by myself (which I have had to do for long periods of life) my god, it would be so much worse.

My dogs are my entertainment and salvation, thank god they are healthy, robust types with big personalities that they cause me to laugh at least 100 times a day as just the one did coming in with her stuffed animal and shaking it in the face of the other to agitate it (just happened as I typed). But man....only so much Netflix and You Tube you can binge (and thank god for these two entities, the greatest inventions of the last 20 years).

It is so bad, that at 50ish, I am contemplating getting a PS4 platform, not for kids, but for me. At least I can make my own sports. I am serious about this. I have started jogging and working out more which is good. But today....it is crappy out, I cut the grass yesterday, I can't just sit in front of the computer "strategizing" about the future, or are markets and customers, another guess on who will lose what business so I can give to our finance people for their 12th reforecast to management since this has happened. As I told someone on a conference call, "if I knew what the aerospace market is going to do the rest of 2020, I should be working for a hedge fund, not here" (though I know this....it is not good).

Somehow, I think it is a race right now. I am sure many of you feel like this. A race between some sort of semblance of a return to normalcy vs becoming irrelevant (ie "not needed") for my company. It is definitely a malaise today. We all have good day and bad days. We all hope, but man again I am not a religious person because reality always gets in the way of faith, so I am a natural skeptic.

I need to step away today. But I have nothing to step away too. I am not looking for sympathy at all, because you are all in the same boat, many worse. I am just venting. I am not blaming anyone. It just is. It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity.

I don't know how long this is going to go on. I don't know how long any of us can maintain this current path. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry for bugging you all.


"It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity"

Well said... You are wise to realize your good fortune. I was going to post something similar. I may still do it yet. I still marvel over the sacrifices and hardship other generations have endured with out any help or safety net. And now, we have all this...
 
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Boo freakin Hoo. Suck it up and make do.

I've caught up with relatives and old college friends in the middle east, europe, and across the country. Spent quality time with my wife and kids. Done cool and fun stuff in the house with food, crafts, games, etc. Played hoops with the kids, caught up on yard work, walked, rode bikes.

Life is still good.
You know, you make me think of a roommate I had in Forbes Hall that was from Serbia. All I thought about him was that his soccer gloves were the nastiest smelling things and he talked Balkan politics all the time.

After traveling half of the world, what a dunce I was to not make an effort to understand that guy”s perspective.
 
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Well, I have not suffered of a lack of things to do. I just took an online test and have a paper due tomorrow as I take classes as a 66yo student at UGA. At home at our horse farm there is always manure to clean up and fences to fix, pastures to fertilize and if I run out of things to do, the DW will find another chore!

I know this is really weird but an earlier post mentioned things you wanted to do when you found the time. One of the things many of us probably need to take a look at is an estate plan, especially now given the virus. I know this is morbid, but if something happens to you (and your spouse), who takes care of the kids? the pets? Who get the assets - Cash, Stocks, Bonds? the glass from Jerome Lane's backboard? Good time to check your insurance coverage. Are the beneficiaries what you want on you IRAs, 401ks, etc. Do you have a will, trust, Durable Financial Power of Attorney, Health Care Power of Attorney, Advanced Directive, Living Will. What about tax implications (I found out the hard way that PA has a 15% Inheritance Tax on $$$ left to non-immediate family members when my wife got some $$$ after her spinster aunt passed away.)

Again, I know this is morbid, but I'll bet each of you would find something you probably need to change in your estate plan!
 
Well, I have not suffered of a lack of things to do. I just took an online test and have a paper due tomorrow as I take classes as a 66yo student at UGA. At home at our horse farm there is always manure to clean up and fences to fix, pastures to fertilize and if I run out of things to do, the DW will find another chore!

I know this is really weird but an earlier post mentioned things you wanted to do when you found the time. One of the things many of us probably need to take a look at is an estate plan, especially now given the virus. I know this is morbid, but if something happens to you (and your spouse), who takes care of the kids? the pets? Who get the assets - Cash, Stocks, Bonds? the glass from Jerome Lane's backboard? Good time to check your insurance coverage. Are the beneficiaries what you want on you IRAs, 401ks, etc. Do you have a will, trust, Durable Financial Power of Attorney, Health Care Power of Attorney, Advanced Directive, Living Will. What about tax implications (I found out the hard way that PA has a 15% Inheritance Tax on $$$ left to non-immediate family members when my wife got some $$$ after her spinster aunt passed away.)

Again, I know this is morbid, but I'll bet each of you would find something you probably need to change in your estate plan!
Good advice. My parents had an airtight will/estate plan redrawn 6 years ago by the chair of the Estates and Trust Division at Houston Harbaugh. This thing is like 3 inches thick. Even with that, my Dad's death created a lot of loose ends I have had to chase down. I can't even imagine what it would be like without that forcing you into probate.
 
First off, I am thankful I still have a job. And, at least as of yet, we haven't been asked for any type of salary considerations (for one thing, we are saving money by not having plane trips, hotels, restaurants, bars and fuel) so that mitigates our expenses in some ways.....

But my last on site customer visit was 3/16 right as things were closing down. Clairton USX works. I am not officially getting bored. I can only look at my customer lists so much, I can only ask them "how they are doing" and "if you need anything holler" so many times without becoming a pain in the ass.

I am tired of even surfing the Lair. Twitter. I love sports, I mean there isn't much sports to read. The NFL Draft? When your team has 1 pick in the top 100, it loses some of its luster and I am already sick of it. Politics? It is either Trump is Satan or Trump is Jesus, there is nothing in between and reading and discussing politics really has become an endeavor with the satisfaction of playing tic tac toe. It is just beating your head against the wall or watching partisan tennis, back and forth, back and forth.

I am effing bored. I could say I can give up sports, or deal with less of it, if there was only something else to do. You can only cut your grass so much. Thank god I have a house, I would hate the fact if I lived in an apartment, by myself (which I have had to do for long periods of life) my god, it would be so much worse.

My dogs are my entertainment and salvation, thank god they are healthy, robust types with big personalities that they cause me to laugh at least 100 times a day as just the one did coming in with her stuffed animal and shaking it in the face of the other to agitate it (just happened as I typed). But man....only so much Netflix and You Tube you can binge (and thank god for these two entities, the greatest inventions of the last 20 years).

It is so bad, that at 50ish, I am contemplating getting a PS4 platform, not for kids, but for me. At least I can make my own sports. I am serious about this. I have started jogging and working out more which is good. But today....it is crappy out, I cut the grass yesterday, I can't just sit in front of the computer "strategizing" about the future, or are markets and customers, another guess on who will lose what business so I can give to our finance people for their 12th reforecast to management since this has happened. As I told someone on a conference call, "if I knew what the aerospace market is going to do the rest of 2020, I should be working for a hedge fund, not here" (though I know this....it is not good).

Somehow, I think it is a race right now. I am sure many of you feel like this. A race between some sort of semblance of a return to normalcy vs becoming irrelevant (ie "not needed") for my company. It is definitely a malaise today. We all have good day and bad days. We all hope, but man again I am not a religious person because reality always gets in the way of faith, so I am a natural skeptic.

I need to step away today. But I have nothing to step away too. I am not looking for sympathy at all, because you are all in the same boat, many worse. I am just venting. I am not blaming anyone. It just is. It has been a long time coming, my generation has steered clear of WW's, Depression's, even the Vietnam War. The Steel crash locally in the late 70's and early 80's, knock on wood, my family escaped being affected by that. My life has been relatively easy, benign if not idyllic without being overly wealthy from my childhood to now. So I harbor no bitterness and resentment. Just a dread that maybe this is our time, my generation's time (and others past mine) this our time to learn how to deal with adversity.

I don't know how long this is going to go on. I don't know how long any of us can maintain this current path. That's it. That's all I got. Sorry for bugging you all.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I am in the same sales boat as you.
 
If I could like this 100+ times I would. The details are different (substitute dogs for cats, etc.) but I feel the same way.

Yesterday was probably the worst day so far. My brain was suggesting all these great projects/activities, but I mostly sat on the couch looking out at space. My husband still has his job, my youngest still has his job, our eldest is here which is such a gift since I didn't think we would ever have this time again, we own our home and cars, my Mom is safe and being cared for, etc, etc., etc. But then I think about friends who don't have these luxuries and my heart breaks witnessing the incredible stress they are under especially as they watch their livelihood and dreams dry up. Plus as evidenced here in these forums, agendas have pitted people against each other even though there are no winners or some moral ground that's higher than someone else.

So there's some guilt, fear, sadness and anger mixed in with good, old fashioned boredom and poof! I went kind of brain dead yesterday.

The one thing that has really helped is continuing my workouts at home. It's not the same even when zooming with my trainer, but working up a good sweat can only help. Focusing on making healthy meals and sleep. I've reached out to various organizations to volunteer but those are in short supply too. I'd love to give back in addition to monetary donations.

Other than that, I too am searching.
I think it’s grief. It’s totally human. That’s what we’re going through. It sucks, and sometimes people can’t or won’t empathize with people experiencing grief.

They’ll try to make us feel better, give advice, tell us what to do. All we really can do is feel it, share with people who don’t judge it and let it pass. I’m so grateful for you guys sharing your true feelings on here. What a gift.
 
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I read...................alot. Reading Flea's autobiography right now. Front Row at Trump Show by Jonathan Karl is due to arrive by end of the week.

This (reading) will be much more enjoyable when the weather is nicer, I can sit on my deck, let the dogs roam in the yard and read a book sipping on a nice gin and tonic. So yeah....that will happen. As will a vegetable garden this year. But still...... I am someone who spends 70% of my days on the road. While it is nice to be home with dogs and family, it gets old. Again, not wanting to personally whine, so many have it so much worse. Just today....I don't know....the vastness of this endless (so far) sequestered life got to me.
It’s not whining. It’s how you feel.
 
Boo freakin Hoo. Suck it up and make do.

I've caught up with relatives and old college friends in the middle east, europe, and across the country. Spent quality time with my wife and kids. Done cool and fun stuff in the house with food, crafts, games, etc. Played hoops with the kids, caught up on yard work, walked, rode bikes.

Life is still good.
Boo freaking hoo. Channeling your inner Lama I see.
 
In a minor miracle I have actually lost a couple. After 5 weeks of boredom snacking I had access to a scale at doctor's office. I jumped on hoping I gained less than 10 pounds and was shocked. Shocked at losing 2 pounds and equally shocked that the scale didn't say "one at a time, please".

I'm working from home and to hear my wife School our 7 year old is delightful.. sometimes a little loud but love it. I've lost well over 15 pounds with eating only when hungry, I am drinking more beer for sure. At work we had a food cube with everything imaginable daily... the house food cube has watchful eyes. If football season does come around I may end up as thin as the down marker..
 
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I'm working from home and to hear my wife School our 7 year old is delightful.. sometimes a little loud but love it. I've lost well over 15 pounds with eating only when hungry, I am drinking more beer for sure. At work we had a food cube with everything imaginable daily... the house food cube has watchful eyes. If football season does come around I may end up as thin as the down marker..

Same here. I’m kinda loving it. Spending time with my wife and kid. Down 10 pounds. Reading. 60 hours into the Witcher 3. It’s pretty solid.
 
I know this is really weird but an earlier post mentioned things you wanted to do when you found the time. One of the things many of us probably need to take a look at is an estate plan, especially now given the virus. I know this is morbid, but if something happens to you (and your spouse), who takes care of the kids? the pets? Who get the assets - Cash, Stocks, Bonds? the glass from Jerome Lane's backboard? Good time to check your insurance coverage. Are the beneficiaries what you want on you IRAs, 401ks, etc. Do you have a will, trust, Durable Financial Power of Attorney, Health Care Power of Attorney, Advanced Directive, Living Will. What about tax implications (I found out the hard way that PA has a 15% Inheritance Tax on $$$ left to non-immediate family members when my wife got some $$$ after her spinster aunt passed away.)

Again, I know this is morbid, but I'll bet each of you would find something you probably need to change in your estate plan!

I'm guessing that your advisors are suggesting giving away assets BEFORE you meet that great Pitt Script in the sky

With that in mind, you could get some real satisfaction if you were to gift your Jerome Lane Glass to someone "cough cough ahem, Las Panteras, cough, ahem......that would really appreciate such a thoughtful gesture.

:D
 
Boo freaking hoo. Channeling your inner Lama I see.

I've learned not to fret over stuff. We're getting by just fine, different, but fine. I enjoy the increased time with my family doing family things over the last month.

We'll be back in the rat race at some point. Make the best of the current situation. You'll remember it the rest of your life.
 
I've learned not to fret over stuff. We're getting by just fine, different, but fine. I enjoy the increased time with my family doing family things over the last month.

We'll be back in the rat race at some point. Make the best of the current situation. You'll remember it the rest of your life.
I share your thoughts about making the best of the current situation. I’m thoroughly enjoying the quality time with my family now, AND it’s perfectly normal to occasionally express ones feelings of anxiety and concern for ones family’s future at a time like this.

For context, I sell to companies in PA, NY, and NJ, the hardest hit states, that provide equipment, materials and services to build the roads, buildings, bridges and tunnels in this country. We’ve layed off 50% of our workers. CEO wanted to lay off more, but was convinced by middle management not to, and it payed off. They’re calling them furloughed but we will see. All of our customers are laying off key workers in droves, and are on a spending freezes. I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

To not have and give voice to ones anxiety and concern about those things I mentioned is abnormal in my mind. But that’s just me.
 
I share your thoughts about making the best of the current situation. I’m thoroughly enjoying the quality time with my family now, AND it’s perfectly normal to occasionally express ones feelings of anxiety and concern for ones family’s future at a time like this.

For context, I sell to companies in PA, NY, and NJ, the hardest hit states, that provide equipment, materials and services to build the roads, buildings, bridges and tunnels in this country. We’ve layed off 50% of our workers. CEO wanted to lay off more, but was convinced by middle management not to, and it payed off. They’re calling them furloughed but we will see. All of our customers are laying off key workers in droves, and are on a spending freezes. I don’t see it changing anytime soon.

To not have and give voice to ones anxiety and concern about those things I mentioned is abnormal in my mind. But that’s just me.
Sad thing is........the 1st Quarter of this year started off great. Up about 9%. The good thing is.... I fail to hit numbers, it ain't my fault. But it is much more than that. You can't get projects started.

But it is the unknown.....the no light so far at the end of this tunnel.
 
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