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OT: Penn State Highmark

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Highmark gets a minority interest in Penn State Health and pledges financial support for their medical school and hospitals. Combined $1 billion to be spent on expanding PSU in central PA. They will create a co-branded insurance.

Penn State Highmark Health Plan coming soon to you. Wouldn't be surprised if Allegheny Health eventually becomes Penn State Health Network.
 
Highmark gets a minority interest in Penn State Health and pledges financial support for their medical school and hospitals. Combined $1 billion to be spent on expanding PSU in central PA. They will create a co-branded insurance.

Penn State Highmark Health Plan coming soon to you. Wouldn't be surprised if Allegheny Health eventually becomes Penn State Health Network.

And how much do you want to bet its branded as "Penn State," unlike how UPMC dropped the branding of University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. Even dropped the blue and gold colors for purple.

This is interesting with UPMC rapidly expanding in Central PA. Pitt vs Penn State in medicine.
 
And how much do you want to bet its branded as "Penn State," unlike how UPMC dropped the branding of University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. Even dropped the blue and gold colors for purple.

This is interesting with UPMC rapidly expanding in Central PA. Pitt vs Penn State in medicine.

The big difference is Penn State Health is controlled and owned by Penn State University. Pitt only has 1/3rd interest in UPMC, with 1/3 being controlled by the system member hospitals and another third by the Pittsburgh community at large. Highmark will have 1/5 of Penn State Health and PSU the remaining 4/5ths.

UPMC never used blue and gold. It used blue and white originally. I do wish they still used the university seal. Purple doesn't bother me. I'm sure they did expensive market testing on that and it isn't like Pitt has the foggiest clue what its colors actually are. Inconsistency is not good for branding. However, UPMC clearly does not tie the university in with branding as much as other university-associated medical centers do. However, in almost any article not written in Pittsburgh, UPMC is almost always defined as the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center...particularly in national press. Interestingly, the university actually owns the trademark on "UPMC."

Really, all that matters is the ~$200 million a year coming to the university from UPMC, which is unheard of in academic medicine affiliations.

But yes, clearly it will be UPMC competing against Highmark-Penn State in Central PA. They've staked out their claims, and PSU was really screwed when their merger with Pinnacle was blocked. Penn State has few options available and are really squeezed to grow. This is mostly about them selling a piece of their independence in return for capital needed for them to expand their regional practice acquisitions and invest in their facilities at Hershey. They're still not in a great position because they are hemmed in by UPMC Pinnacle, UPMC Susquehanna, Tower (which is aligned with UPMC), Geissinger, and Penn. I expect them to surrender more and more control to Highmark down the road because they simply don't have any markets to grow into. They have to try to keep Hershey as the primary referral hospital of Central PA, through investment in facilities and faculty (and it will be interesting to watch if UPMC Pinnacle tries to chip away at that), because they aren't going to control many referral hospitals themselves.

As far as Highmark, this continues a strategy of a partnerships/affiliation model (which is has been initiated to some degree with Geissinger, Emerus, and Warren General); a seeming shift away from outright acquisition of facilities.

St. Luke's and Lehigh Valley are next to keep an eye on, maybe WellSpan as a target for Highmark/PSU, as well as Temple, which might be looking to unload its hospitals. UPMC probably wants into both the Lehigh Valley and Philly, and certainly into Maryland.
 
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However, in almost any article not written in Pittsburgh, UPMC is almost always defined as the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center...particularly in national press.
That is the way I've always seen it out here in California in any stories or mentions. Never have I seen UPMC, always "University of Pittsburgh Medical Center". I even saw it once where the H was dropped off Pittsburgh, because I guess the writer thought of the Pittsburg in California
 
Hopefully some sort of free market system happens before that. I refuse to support anything that would advertise under the penn State name.
 
Highmark gets a minority interest in Penn State Health and pledges financial support for their medical school and hospitals. Combined $1 billion to be spent on expanding PSU in central PA. They will create a co-branded insurance.

Penn State Highmark Health Plan coming soon to you. Wouldn't be surprised if Allegheny Health eventually becomes Penn State Health Network.

And people will go where their insurance coverage mandates. I am not going to pay $1000's of dollars more to go out of network for my medical expenses just because someone wants to make this a Pitt vs Penn State thing. That is absolutely one of the dumbest things ever posted on this board.
 
And people will go where their insurance coverage mandates. I am not going to pay $1000's of dollars more to go out of network for my medical expenses just because someone wants to make this a Pitt vs Penn State thing. That is absolutely one of the dumbest things ever posted on this board.

People are insane about this topic.
Emotional for no good reason
 
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And people will go where their insurance coverage mandates. I am not going to pay $1000's of dollars more to go out of network for my medical expenses just because someone wants to make this a Pitt vs Penn State thing. That is absolutely one of the dumbest things ever posted on this board.

If I got shot inside of Allegheny General Hospital, I’d ask to go to Mercy or Presby for treatment.
 
Highmark gets a minority interest in Penn State Health and pledges financial support for their medical school and hospitals. Combined $1 billion to be spent on expanding PSU in central PA. They will create a co-branded insurance.

Penn State Highmark Health Plan coming soon to you. Wouldn't be surprised if Allegheny Health eventually becomes Penn State Health Network.


Very interesting. Penn State has a terrible record on Mergers. Geisinger went to bed with them for a few minutes and quickly divorced. They didn't have the influence to acquire Pinnacle. Penn State just doesn't command the room like UPMC, PENN, etc.

Why did PSU switch all employees to AETNA while making this agreement with Hershey. That doesn't sound like two institutions on the same page. It sounds like Hershey needs Highmark patients and Highmark needs hospitals for their patients. I don't feel either will give control to the other.
 
Highmark gets a minority interest in Penn State Health and pledges financial support for their medical school and hospitals. Combined $1 billion to be spent on expanding PSU in central PA. They will create a co-branded insurance.

Penn State Highmark Health Plan coming soon to you. Wouldn't be surprised if Allegheny Health eventually becomes Penn State Health Network.
I'd rather go uninsured.
 
I mean, it’s a level 1 trauma center.

So, curious why his vitriol.

Competition and options isn’t a bad thing for people.

It’s a damn shame both insurers aren’t accepted at both systems post consent decree.
It should be about competing on care.


They have excellent vascular and neuro. Cardiovascular care also very good. The cancer side needs way more funds to even be on UPMCs level. You have to go out of state to get into some clinical trials that are offered across town.

Next big move. Washington Hospital Network. The CEO retires next year. AGH already has Canonsburg and Highmark is majority owner of Advanced Orthopedic Hospital by the Wash Wild Things. UPMC HVI is now in town
 
They have excellent vascular and neuro. Cardiovascular care also very good. The cancer side needs way more funds to even be on UPMCs level. You have to go out of state to get into some clinical trials that are offered across town.

Next big move. Washington Hospital Network. The CEO retires next year. AGH already has Canonsburg and Highmark is majority owner of Advanced Orthopedic Hospital by the Wash Wild Things. UPMC HVI is now in town
Their pending academic cancer center is a decent step- but takes year

With 340b getting gutted, oncology is no longer a profit center.
 
I wonder if Wellspan could potentially come up for merger. They are extremely strong with a growing footprint that largely rivals Pinnacle's in central PA. Seems like a logical target if Highmark wants to compete with UPMC in central pa.
 
Well certainly a large academic institution is way ahead , particularly on research and novel treatments and procedures.
From a patient/consumer perspective, AHN still is struggling with their invoicing, billing and record keeping. UPMC definitely had a huge head start creating a centralized database of information, but sheesh, AHN cannot get their billing straightened out. My youngest has physicians at both and we have never had an inaccurate invoice from UPMC.
 
Very interesting. Penn State has a terrible record on Mergers. Geisinger went to bed with them for a few minutes and quickly divorced. They didn't have the influence to acquire Pinnacle. Penn State just doesn't command the room like UPMC, PENN, etc.

Why did PSU switch all employees to AETNA while making this agreement with Hershey. That doesn't sound like two institutions on the same page. It sounds like Hershey needs Highmark patients and Highmark needs hospitals for their patients. I don't feel either will give control to the other.
AHN accepts Aetna. That is what we have and can go to UPMC or AHN.
 
And people will go where their insurance coverage mandates. I am not going to pay $1000's of dollars more to go out of network for my medical expenses just because someone wants to make this a Pitt vs Penn State thing. That is absolutely one of the dumbest things ever posted on this board.

UPMC and Penn State Health are already directly competing against each other in provider services in central PA. The articles on this deal indicate they will soon be competing in the insurance side as well: UPMC Health Plan & UPMC-Tower Health Plan vs Highmark & Penn State-Highmark health plan. They will be competing to be both insurer and provider for the people (and employers) of that region.

Football rivalries have no impact on this, but the health and success of their provider and insurer endeavors will impact their respective medical schools. For Pitt, there are also 5 other health science schools impacted, and if for no other reason than their location, the main campus as well.

I find it interest to watch, and is one area where Pitt is absolutely killing it, and not just regionally. In growth and consolidation of their clinical partner, they were way ahead of the curve of everyone else in the nation, and that started by spinning UPMC off of the university so it could aggressively compete. Everyone else is playing catch-up.
 
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Here in Johnstown, home of UPJ, we no longer have a UPMC facility. Our hospital is affiliated with Duke University. Should we loyal Pitt fans ask to be flown to Altoona or Bedford?
 
From a patient/consumer perspective, AHN still is struggling with their invoicing, billing and record keeping. UPMC definitely had a huge head start creating a centralized database of information, but sheesh, AHN cannot get their billing straightened out. My youngest has physicians at both and we have never had an inaccurate invoice from UPMC.
Probably depends on the hospital.

Epic helps that as a comprehensive system.

Of course AHN is in its infancy as an actual network, rather than a loose affiliation of hospitals.
 
Probably depends on the hospital.

Epic helps that as a comprehensive system.

Of course AHN is in its infancy as an actual network, rather than a loose affiliation of hospitals.

yeah that was a smart move going with Epic. It will definitely help. But that place hasn't made money since Shariff bled them dry. That's 20 years and no profit. If not for latching on to the Highmark teet, AGH & West Penn would be converted to luxary condos by now.
 
I mean, it’s a level 1 trauma center.

So, curious why his vitriol.

Competition and options isn’t a bad thing for people.

It’s a damn shame both insurers aren’t accepted at both systems post consent decree.
It should be about competing on care.

It isn’t vitriol. Mom passed away in 2012 at AGH. Some questionable decisions were made in regards to her care after her stroke. So it’s more of a personal bias. And, in my opinion, UPMC just has better doctors. Pioneers in their field of study.
 
yeah that was a smart move going with Epic. It will definitely help. But that place hasn't made money since Shariff bled them dry. That's 20 years and no profit. If not for latching on to the Highmark teet, AGH & West Penn would be converted to luxary condos by now.

epic sucks. Too clicky
 
It isn’t vitriol. Mom passed away in 2012 at AGH. Some questionable decisions were made in regards to her care after her stroke. So it’s more of a personal bias. And, in my opinion, UPMC just has better doctors. Pioneers in their field of study.
IMHO, there are good docs within both networks. Unfortunately we have had a lot of exposure to both UPMC and AHN facilities and doctors the last 4 years. From an administrative perspective UPMC blows AHN out of the water.

Will AHN catch up? Maybe, but UPMC had such a head start that I'm not sure they'll ever run as smoothly. JMO.
 
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Here in Johnstown, home of UPJ, we no longer have a UPMC facility. Our hospital is affiliated with Duke University. Should we loyal Pitt fans ask to be flown to Altoona or Bedford?

It’s not really affiliated with Duke. Lifepoint is a Tennessee-based for-profit provider conglomerate that does little more than license Duke’s name for some of its facilities.

But based on how I’ve heard things are going at Conemaugh, people might be better off looking elsewhere for treatment of certain conditions.
 
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