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It's a hockey night in Pittsburgh.

Opener against the Rangers tonight at 7:30 PM on TNT.

Hope the Pens can make it to the Playoffs this year.

Also wishing safety to all those in the path of Hurricane Milton !
 
It's a hockey night in Pittsburgh.

Opener against the Rangers tonight at 7:30 PM on TNT.

Hope the Pens can make it to the Playoffs this year.

Also wishing safety to all those in the path of Hurricane Milton !
Thanks for starting a new thread! Looking forward to the season.
 
4-0

So glad Sullivan fought hard to keep this clown and Dubas decided it was an excellent decision to keep Sullivan. Hopefully all 3 are gone by seasons end
 
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Turned it off to watch Pitt VB. Is Jarry playing that poorly? The first goal wasn’t on him.

Needless to say not a pretty start to the season
 
He isn’t playing well at all. It’s a shame we have to deal with him while watching Igor just make the saves he should and then go above and beyond that when needed.
 
Jarry has made some very nice saves this period. This team overall looks unprepared and completely overmatched.
 
Jarry gonna let in 5
Not tonight anyway.

I only replied the way that I did because for some reason, I thought Jarry was injured and not playing tonight. LOL

But as it turns out, my comment was correct regardless. After all, he DIDN'T let in 5. Or at least, he didn't end up letting in JUST 5.

My gosh was that ugly in all ways, shapes and forms.
 
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I only replied the way that I did because for some reason, I thought Jarry was injured and not playing tonight. LOL

But as it turns out, my comment was correct regardless. After all, he DIDN'T let in 5. Or at least, he didn't end up letting in JUST 5.

My gosh was that ugly in all ways, shapes and forms.
There was nothing positive. Not one thing has changed from last season
 
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If this is how it’s going to go, and it’s only one game, let the rebuild begin. No need to keep expensive players like Karlsson and Rakell on the team if they’re going to continue to lose. 0-3 on the power play and a SHG, I believe. It’s laughable how inept they are on the power play. It doesn’t even resemble a professional effort.

Playing for today and building for tomorrow was a doomed strategy from the beginning. Straddling the fence never works.

If this is how it’s going to go, there’s nothing to save.
 
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Turned it off to watch Pitt VB. Is Jarry playing that poorly? The first goal wasn’t on him.

Needless to say not a pretty start to the season
Me too. Actually I never turned it on. It was Pitt Vball from the start with me. I hate that I just can’t get into hockey anymore. It was my number #1 passion at one time. Hopefully in Feb this team can reignite something in me and I’ll enjoy the games.

Question for the board…did TK replace someone on tv? I heard him on the radio yesterday talking about his new gig but didn’t hear what happened to last years Crew.
 
The Pens should've started a rebuild in 2019, two years after their last Cup.

The Steelers never should've traded for Minkah in 2019 and gone 5-11 to have a good shot at drafting Herbert (of course Tomlin's crap OC hires wouldn't have helped in his development).

Instead, both franchises have been stale as hell for quite some time.
 
Well............................... I was watching in between other things because it was hard to watch on its own....but a song kept on playing in my mind. And old Talking Heads song. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.............

I mean this is Penguin hockey over the last few years. It's not good enough. They aren't good enough. While the "core" is romantic, it was abject ridiculous to keep them together. It is criminal, almost as criminal as retaining "Sheltie" to retain Sullivan.

This team is the same. Sid can't just put them on his back anymore. Christ he is 37. It's one game, but this game had every possible shortcoming that has plagued this team the past few years. Every one.

Shower it off.
 
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Well............................... I was watching in between other things because it was hard to watch on its own....but a song kept on playing in my mind. And old Talking Heads song. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.............

I mean this is Penguin hockey over the last few years. It's not good enough. They aren't good enough. While the "core" is romantic, it was abject ridiculous to keep them together. It is criminal, almost as criminal as retaining "Sheltie" to retain Sullivan.

This team is the same. Sid can't just put them on his back anymore. Christ he is 37. It's one game, but this game had every possible shortcoming that has plagued this team the past few years. Every one.

Shower it off.
ACtually your post triggered this thought. At the end of the day was it "fair" to Sid to keep the core? Would Sids legacy have been better served by trading Malkin and Letang when they could have gotten something and enabled the team to compete at a high level or at least a hell of a lot higher than they are now? I know hed never admit it publicly but Im wondering if Sid would admit his loyalties to his buddies probably was a mistake in terms of his overall legacy.
 
Well............................... I was watching in between other things because it was hard to watch on its own....but a song kept on playing in my mind. And old Talking Heads song. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.............

I mean this is Penguin hockey over the last few years. It's not good enough. They aren't good enough. While the "core" is romantic, it was abject ridiculous to keep them together. It is criminal, almost as criminal as retaining "Sheltie" to retain Sullivan.

This team is the same. Sid can't just put them on his back anymore. Christ he is 37. It's one game, but this game had every possible shortcoming that has plagued this team the past few years. Every one.

Shower it off.
Long season -
Outside of checking the score on the ESPN app, it’s not worth reacting much yet .
I watched the latest episode of Penguin on HBO instead .
It’s pretty great - just a grittty monster series
 
Long season -
Outside of checking the score on the ESPN app, it’s not worth reacting much yet .
I watched the latest episode of Penguin on HBO instead .
It’s pretty great - just a grittty monster series
It is. It's one game. But when it was a rehash of every single thing that has ailed them over the past few years all combined in one 60 minute envelop to start the season, doesn't exactly give confidence.

And I have been tempted, haven't yet been able to pull the trigger on watching the Penguin.
 
It is. It's one game. But when it was a rehash of every single thing that has ailed them over the past few years all combined in one 60 minute envelop to start the season, doesn't exactly give confidence.

And I have been tempted, haven't yet been able to pull the trigger on watching the Penguin.
If you forget it’s “Gotham “ and just make it say Jersey city -
It’s more a great crime drama .
He’s pretty much Tony soprano with a limp , except a Nobody climbing the organized crime scene
 
Like the Steelers, Sully and Tomlin can't compete with talented teams. The Rangers have skill and speed and are a mismatch for the Pens.
 
- The game against the NYR's last night certainly was UGLY ....... terrible effort by the Pens overall (they played pretty well the first 10-15 minutes of the first period then it was all downhill the rest of the game) ...... many of the same mistakes as last year ...... too many odd man breaks against, terrible defensive zone coverage, 0-3 on the PP, gave up a short handed goal, poor puck management, etc. ........ on the other hand, it is only one game and teams sometimes have these kind of games especially early in the season so we will see how they come out tonight against the Redwings and remember, the NYR's are expected to be one of the best teams.

- What about Jarry's performance ? ....... after looking at the video of the goals he gave up last night and looking at his advanced stats from the game, here is my evaluation of his performance ......

- Goal #1 - Shot from the right point was deflected by a Ranger in the low inner circle, TJ had no chance to react and change position to stop the shot.

- Goal #2 - puck stolen from Eller and early 2 on 1 break for the Rangers, Puljujarvi back checks and takes 2nd man but Pettersson inexplicably goes down and slides away from the puck carrier who then has an open shot from the low inner left circle and scores through the 5 hole with Jarry deep in net ....... high scoring chance but Jarry needed to close 5 hole.

- Goal #3 - shot from the left upper circle, deflected and changed direction which handcuffed goalie .... TJ still made a really good save but left rebound right on Kreider's stick who shot the puck into empty net ....... really nothing different TJ could do on the play as the deflection made it almost impossible to control the rebound.

- Goal #4 - Ranger rushes down right wing low into zone toward lower circle/goal line area and both Pens defensemen inexplicably go after him leaving an open Ranger in lower inner right circle, he gets a pass and Jarry who was playing the initial puck carrier is off angle and too deep to save the shooter, doesn't move out fast enough and is beaten to far post ...... again a high danger tough shot to stop but Jarry doesn't react quick enough to get in better position to try and stop the shot.

Goal #5 - short handed goal .... breakaway, TJ backs into the crease to soon, too far and Kreider slips a relatively weak shot through the 5 hole ..... in addition, Jarry's stick was out of position on the shot and if in proper position likely stops the shot ...... poorly played.

Goal #6 - high danger shot from low slot, TJ makes a good save but puck not controlled in the crease and Trocheck back hands it into the goal while Graves who should have been guarding Trocheck is totally out of position.

Jarry had 16 or 18 high danger shots against in the game (depending on which site you look at the goalie stats) ....... this is a massive number of high danger scoring chances, the chances that most often lead to goals ( last season, for example, Jarry faced 7.5 high danger shots per 60 minutes) ...... Jarry's SV% on the high danger shots was 81.25% which is actually good (this goes along with some great saves we saw him make in the 2nd and 3rd periods) ...... his delta SV% was minus 0.31 which is 10th out of the 22 goalies who have played so far this year (one game) and his GSAx (goals saved above average) was minus 0.22 which is 11th out of 22, and his High Danger SV% is 8th out of 22 goalies in the first game ........ Jarry had more high danger shots in the first game then any other goalie in the league .......

- Stats after one game don't mean a lot but if you take the video analysis along with his advanced stats in the game, my conclusion is that he didn't play all that well but he was not nearly as bad as a 6-0 loss might suggest ...... he was largely average or slightly worse ...... Shesterkin was outstanding ........ the Pens put TJ in way, way too many dangerous situations but also he needs to play significantly better especially from a technical aspect ...... I'd like to see Blomqvist go tonight ..... let the kid play !

- PS - Blomqvist in goal tonight is confirmed.
 
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monty python and there was much rejoicing GIF
 
They looked like a completely different team last night
Big early saves by Blomqvist .
He will be playing a lot early in the season due to Nedeljkovic injury and the heavy schedule.
When Ned comes back I would use those 2 as my goalies.
Idk what they are going to do w/ Jarry? He is toast and his contract is an anchor .
 
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