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OT: Riley’s Pour House to the portal

Noticed more and more structural fires in the news lately ..
But . With the age of all houses and establishments in and around Pittsburgh their just comes a time the electrical systems reach there life expectancy . Hell I know a lot of homes here on the east end of the county that are 100 - 125 years old and I'm sure not all have been updated ..
 
Has the cause of fire been determined?

Maybe they owed someone money or were just looking to get out of the business?

With the required safety systems in today’s restaurants, restaurants shouldn’t really burn down or burn extensively. Should be small containable kitchen fires.

Yet as another poster mentioned this keeps happening. Burger place in Market square a couple years ago, think Nola too in market square before that, Buffalo Wild Wings in west mifflin a few years ago, etc
 
My bad...I thought this thread was going to be about Lincoln Riley...

 
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Has the cause of fire been determined?

Maybe they owed someone money or were just looking to get out of the business?

With the required safety systems in today’s restaurants, restaurants shouldn’t really burn down or burn extensively. Should be small containable kitchen fires.

Yet as another poster mentioned this keeps happening. Burger place in Market square a couple years ago, think Nola too in market square before that, Buffalo Wild Wings in west mifflin a few years ago, etc
No cause yet, but this was a Carnegie institution. Would be shocked if it were nefarious

A few years ago Papa J's across the street burned down because someone in an apartment above it kept on a hot plate.
 
Noticed more and more structural fires in the news lately ..
But . With the age of all houses and establishments in and around Pittsburgh their just comes a time the electrical systems reach there life expectancy . Hell I know a lot of homes here on the east end of the county that are 100 - 125 years old and I'm sure not all have been updated ..
As a former full time electrician (I still do it on the side), you are very astute. There are many homes in the region that are still partially knob and tube. There are still many houses with old breaker boxes that suck like pushmatic, federal pacific, if it isn't an outright fuse box.

Then the demand on today's electrical systems are just greater. 200 amp panels are now the standard. My neice just purchased a 2200 sq ft house from the 70s in Bethel. There were 13 circuits in it with a 100 amp panel. I switched it to 200 amp and know there are 32 circuits in the house. The old romex wires also had undersized ground wires compared to today's Rome. Some older homes lack grounding in many outlets.

I am of the belief that any house built before 1980 should be gutted so all new mechanicals could be installed PLUS NEW INSINUATION.
 
As a former full time electrician (I still do it on the side), you are very astute. There are many homes in the region that are still partially knob and tube. There are still many houses with old breaker boxes that suck like pushmatic, federal pacific, if it isn't an outright fuse box.

Then the demand on today's electrical systems are just greater. 200 amp panels are now the standard. My neice just purchased a 2200 sq ft house from the 70s in Bethel. There were 13 circuits in it with a 100 amp panel. I switched it to 200 amp and know there are 32 circuits in the house. The old romex wires also had undersized ground wires compared to today's Rome. Some older homes lack grounding in many outlets.

I am of the belief that any house built before 1980 should be gutted so all new mechanicals could be installed PLUS NEW INSINUATION.
What exactly are you insinuating?
 
As a former full time electrician (I still do it on the side), you are very astute. There are many homes in the region that are still partially knob and tube. There are still many houses with old breaker boxes that suck like pushmatic, federal pacific, if it isn't an outright fuse box.

Then the demand on today's electrical systems are just greater. 200 amp panels are now the standard. My neice just purchased a 2200 sq ft house from the 70s in Bethel. There were 13 circuits in it with a 100 amp panel. I switched it to 200 amp and know there are 32 circuits in the house. The old romex wires also had undersized ground wires compared to today's Rome. Some older homes lack grounding in many outlets.

I am of the belief that any house built before 1980 should be gutted so all new mechanicals could be installed PLUS NEW INSINUATION.
i help my buddy out occasionally on weekends, he's an electrician and does service calls. we were out at a house in swissvale last weekend that was knob and tube. all those old houses in those areas are probably like that. crazy there arent more house fires in these older homes in the city and in older areas like this.
 
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